Thank you so much for all your prompt replies. I need to find out if Kate Donovan, daughter of Michael, is the Kate [Catherine} who married my grandfather Andrew Murphy of Rathnure Lower to make sure I have the right family. They would have married 1912 - 1914 I think. The ages on the 1911 census fit but I have to say I was under the impression that both my grandparents came from farming stock but this would not be the only mistake I have made. I know it has been said many times but if only I had paid more attention and asked more questions when I had the chance. Anne