Most people seem to like the fact that I'm doing this - so I'll continue. For some - they say it didn't come through - I've not put it as an attachment onto my mail but pasted it into the body of the mail. I know that the lines are breaking up and that some bits of the reference are being highlighted by my IE5....I think the highlighting doesn't go thru to everyone as it may be something to do with the qualities of IE5 and the fact that URL's come up highlighted. The mailer may be reading parts of teh reference as it would a web site URL. So - I've been asked to give the full title, ISBN, Author etc for each reference. The thing is - I could, but I won't - because for me to pick up all that information I have to log into my universities library and go through each reference individually - for that I would need to stay connected to the net for a *long* time, and I pay my telephone company per connection - by the 5 or 15 mins depending on whether I connect during the day or night. The point of these mails is this - if you have an internet connection and can browse - there are libraries out there all over the world which have on line catalogues. All you need to find references to books about or from Ireland is to have a few key words, you can access any libraries on line catalogue, use your key words to search and the library will tell you what it has with that word in it's title. From there, you can write down the information and go to your local library and ask them if they do interlibrary loans........and if they do, then fill out whatever forms, pay whatever they charge and you can borrow the book from the other library where-ever it is. If I continue with these lists - then you may spot key words you haven't thought of.......that to me would be the main importance now of continuing with the lists - because by the time I'm finished you'll all be experts in surfing university libraries <g> With University libraries, as researchers - this means that we can access books that are really old as books go (not ancient and priceless), we can get informatin that we need for research. Some books, we may get them as microfiches - but we get them. University libraries are probbaly the best, I think maybe that libraries will have arrangements with other libraries as to which ones exchange with who - I don't know the ins and outs of it all. perhaps public libraries operate on a different system than libraries associated with Universities......... The trick is - to be able to have the name of the book you want - to konw the author, to know it's ISBN if it has one, to be able to tell your library where in the country/world it can be found.......... hidden away on a shelf gathering dust because no one ever looks for it..... and you would like to read it so bad. You can go to the University College Dublin library like I said yesterday - follow the trail from the university home page www.ucd.ie to the library, access our on line catalogue.....key in any word you want and the catalogue will show you what we have............... I think- but I can't remember - that you can do this with University College Cork, Trinity College Dublin, University College Galway........ just change the ucd in the URL i give here to ucc or tcd or ucg and that should get you in to any of their home pages. and then once you begin to gather the information - the names of books - you can go back to the online libraries in your own country and see if any of them have any of these books. Our catalogue will not tel you anything about the book - it's content, it's quality - just that there is a book to be found in Ireland on this subject. >From there it's up to you to search the rest of the world - libraries, interlibrary loan, on line catalogues - with older books, it may be an idea to see if you can borrow it from somewhere - before you go and buy it, if you are mainly interested in seeing if it has a specific reference that you are looking for........... Jane