I was trying to find out recently what it's like in bookshops in the States re finding Irish books......I mean here, if I go into a bookshop - we have tons of them, all over the place - shelves and shelves of them, covering everything, fact to fiction. *But* if i was to look for a'specialised' book on another country - then it'd be a different kettle of fish - i might be lucky and it might be a best seller and sitting there - I might have to wander through a sozen bookshops looking for it - or, I might hve to order is 'specially.....or, if out of print - then it gets to be a matter of luck. Before I find it - I need to know what it is I am looking for - something like searching for your family in genealogy. If you know where they came from - that makes it easier..... I was also thinking about the last time I was Stateside.....my friends were eating irish potato bread......we don't have Irish potato bread in Ireland......not sliced, not unsliced, not in specialist shops - we just don't have it - and yet - there it was all over the place. Now , we do have potato cakes - totally different things to bread...and I know you can make potato scones - but I'm getting off my subject here. Books.... First - i've seen so many people wondering about Irish bookshops on the web - about old out of print books that I can only think that it must be hard to get irish books in the States.....depending on the size of any bookshop andon the Irish community locally?? - and even then - it must be only the more popular ones you'd get - the big sellers? I've seen so much about Irish history books - even those for children and we have them coming out our ears. So - from all that I kind of put my irish potato bread and Irish books together - and wondered if those books on shelves in other parts of the world would be written by Irish authors - or people who live in those other countries writing their versions of our history and our stories? I don't know......but the rest of you may. Then, I remembered something I have - from way back whenver I first got on the net. I telneted into my University library one night - thrilled that I could do it, had something like ireland as my key word.......and downloaded a list of books..... I know I can't do this now - if I telnet in - I get maybe ten books per page.......and I'd have to be there for ages to come up with this list. and again - thinking about that potato bread and those bookshops and people looking for books....how can you find a book if you don't know the name of it - the name of the author.....and suddenly my list of books here gained a whole new perspective for me. It's names of books, the author is listed - maybe not the ful title.....but if someone had a bit of this lot here then all they have to do is go to their local library which does inter library loan - and see if the librarian can tell them if they have enough info here.......or even regardless......all you have to do is go check out the UCD webpage...... www.ucd.ie and then folow the signs to the library - and when you get to that - you can put insomeof the info from thse ists I am going to post - and you will get the full title and author..... and then you can go looking in another library closer to home for whatever it is.... Sometimes our system is down and you won't be able to get in , sometimes it's very busy and you won't be able to get in - but if you try on and off - eventually you sould manage My file is 14 pages long.......and this is only page one....... ignore the first digit on any refernce here - if you look you'll see that the refs came through in batches of 10 so each batch is 1-10. The second set of digits are the filing system ref numbers - we used to file by the Dewey system and I don't know that we do now - I think it may have changed over the last few years. Thos refs with more than four digits are the old sytem and with four are the new. Maybe this is a good idea for those of you who have no knowledge at all of what books are available on Ireland. It might teach some people how to get into University libraries and just find titles.....and work their way from there.... and then again it might be of no use to anyone in which case I'd appreciate being told so that I'm not wasting my time with this idea. 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