WEXFORD-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > WEXFORD-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 26 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Re: [WEX] ["Philip O'Rourke" <pjorourke@eirco] > #2 [WEX] Musgrave's book 1798 rebelli [Bob Stone <bstone1@home.com>] > #3 [WEX] Musgrave Source & Webster hi [finnegan@fas.harvard.edu (Greg Fin] > #4 [WEX] Thomas Byrne [Donna Pierce <dpierce@wyoming.com>] > #5 [WEX] Gananoque/Lansdowne ["Ellen" <ellenrudd@ameritech.net>] > #6 Re: [WEX] Gananoque/Lansdowne ["John Connors" <chrisone@nf.sympat] > #7 Re: [WEX] Gananoque/Lansdowne [Westmilli@aol.com] > #8 [WEX] Barry Family [James Cox <jim63@mediaone.net>] > #9 [WEX] Doyle Family ["Dann-Online" <dann@dann-online.co] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from WEXFORD-D, send a message to > > WEXFORD-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > To unsubscribe on the web, go to > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/subscribe.html > > Hugh > > Listowner > > hugh@xtra.co.nz > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: [WEX] > Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 15:10:09 -0000 > From: "Philip O'Rourke" <pjorourke@eircom.net> > To: WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Roma McDougall <r_mcdougall@optusnet.com.au> > To: <WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 5:12 AM > Subject: [WEX] > > > I am delighted to find that there is a mailing list for Wexford, > especially as I am hoping to visit later on this year. I am interested in > Enniscorthy and in the Humphreys family who lived there in the latter half > of the 19th century and in the early 20th. I have in my possession a > letter written by Benjamin Humphreys to my grandfather who was his nephew > by marriage, but with whom there was clearly a close relationship. The > letter is dated 1898 and gives the address as Castle Hill House, > Enniscorthy. Benjamin was an uncle by marriage to my grandfather, but there > was clearly a close relationship between them. Benjamin had a business of > some kind in Enniscorthy and also owned a farm.. Several sons, William > (b.17 Mar 1871) and Benjamin, were involved with the business and the farm. > Another son, Thomas, became a clergyman in the Church of Ireland. > > > > I would very much appreciate any information about this family. > > Best wishes, > > Roma McDougall. > > > > ______________________________ > > I hope these may be of some help. > > HUMPHREY John HUMPHREY Moses FUNGE Mary C701435 3589835 > HUMPHREYS, John Bir 1870 WEXF Fa: Moses HUMPHREYS > Mo: Mary Anne FUNGE > > HUMPHREY William HUMPHREY Benjamin SUTCLIFFE Mary C701446 3620765 > HUMPHREYS, William Edwin Bir 1871 WEXF Fa: Benjamin HUMPHREYS > Mo: Mary SUTLIFFE > > HUMPHREY Mary HUMPHREY Aden FUNGE Mary C701459 3683364 > HUMPHREYS, Mary Anne Bir 1871 WEXF Fa: Aiden HUMPHREYS > Mo: Mary Anne FUNGE > > Regards > Philip > http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/o/r/o/Philip-J-Orourke/ > > Also researching: > BANFIELD..................................... of Kerry>Cork > KEANE........................................... of West Cork > DALTON........................................ of Carrick-on-Suir>Kerry > COUGHLAN................................... of West Cork > O'ROURKE/ROURKE/RORKE..... of Wexford > FURLONG...................................... of Wexford > O'BRIEN /BRYAN.......................... of Limerick>Kilkenny > BRENNAN...................................... of Kilkenny > MEEHAN........................................ of Kerry > TAFFE............................................. of Kerry > FARRELL........................................ of Kilkenny > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: [WEX] Musgrave's book 1798 rebellion > Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 14:29:18 -0500 > From: Bob Stone <bstone1@home.com> > To: WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com > > Hi; > > The book "Memoirs of the Irish Rebellion of 1798" by Sir Richard > Musgrave is available from: > > Blair's Book Service > Windyedge, 277 Crider Lane, > Woodstock, Virginia 22664-9542 > USA > Phone (703) 459-2090 (Voice) > (703) 459-5898 > > Hope this helps, > > Bob > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: [WEX] Musgrave Source & Webster history > Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 15:18:39 -0500 > From: finnegan@fas.harvard.edu (Greg Finnegan) > To: WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com > > Re those seeking Musgrave--the modern reprint was from a small > (kitchen-table?) press in Indiana USA, so possibly outside even > Amazon.com's massive list. The book is listed for sale by a Canadian > genealogy book/etc vendor: > > http://globalgenealogy.com/ireland.htm > > SIR RICHARD MUSGRAVE'S MEMOIRS OF THE IRISH REBELLION OF 1798 - Most > important contemporary published source on the insurrection led by the > United Irishman. More information > > CAT #239001 ..........$79.99 Canadian Dollars > > The book IS *invaluable*, but is highly biased; the modern reprint has a > good introduction explaining that, as well as having a much more complete > index than the original editions. But while the book details massive > numbers of Wexford Protestant casualties, the main list of same (as > distinct from incidents discussed in the text itself) is the list of those > claiming compensation. So for those of us descended from Robert WEBSTER, > hoisted on pikes and tossed from the Enniscorthy bridge--that incident > isn't discussed. The burning of Robert's house (and his brother's) IS > mentioned--but he doesn't show up in the victim roster except that his > widow's need for support is listed--but he isn't named even there, as the > focus was naming those compensated, who were necessarily survivors. > > The Enniscorthy Bridge incident *IS* discussed on pp. 138-139 of Glenn J. > LOCKWOOD, THE REAR OF LEEDS & LANSDOWNE: THE MAKING OF COMMUNITY ON THE > GANANOQUE RIVER FRONTIER, 1796-1996, published in 1996 by the Corporation > of the Township of the Rear of Leeds and Lansdowne, PO Box 160, Lyndhurst, > ON. Lockwood takes the several paragraphs he quotes from "anonymous, > WEBSTER [family history] (gestetnered manuscript and family tree, n.d.)" > loaned to him. The same text, word for word, is also found on pp. 21-22 of > THE TEN BROTHERS: A GENEALOGY OF THE LEECH FAMILY TOGETHER WITH A SHORT > BIOGRAPHY OF THE 10 BROTHERS, PUBLISHED 1951--tho' the preface is signed J. > Hillyard LEECH, KC, Winnipeg MN, March 8th 1929. The 10 brothers in > question, developers of Gorrie (sic) Ontario in the 1850's-70's, were sons > of Barbara WEBSTER, dau. of the Robert killed on the bridge. > > Greg Finnegan > Seeking Palatine POOLEs (Ram estates, Gorey), JOHNSTON (exact location in > N. WEX unknown), LEECH, and WEBSTER (Garrybrit.) > > Gregory A. Finnegan, PhD > Associate Librarian for Public Services > and Head of Reference > Tozzer Library > Harvard University > 21 Divinity Avenue > Cambridge MA 02138-2089 > 617-495-2253 fax 617-496-2741 > gregory_finnegan@harvard.edu > > "...have mercy on us all --Presbyterians and Pagans alike -- for we are all > somehow dreadfully cracked about the head, and sadly need mending." > MOBY-DICK, chapter 17. > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: [WEX] Thomas Byrne > Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 19:36:58 -0700 > From: Donna Pierce <dpierce@wyoming.com> > To: WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com > > Seeking information on Thomas Byrne and his family. According to an old > letter, Thomas and "all the Byrne's" were born on Gullet Road, Clahamen, > Ferns, Co. Wexford. I have no dates but assume Thomas was born sometime > prior to 1850. > > Thomas married a woman named Mary, possibly Huff or Cuffe. They had six > children that I am aware of: Valentine, Stephen, Patrick, James, Sarah > (Sally) and Annie. Sarah was born Sept. 26, 1870 and eloped with Henry > Murphy when she was only 13. Sarah and her husband and Stephen and Annie > all immigrated to America. Stephen was killed working on the railroad. It > is unknown what became of Annie. Patrick was killed while working in John > Jameson's brewery in Dublin. > > Any information regarding this family would be deeply appreciated. > > Thank you! > > Donna > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: [WEX] Gananoque/Lansdowne > Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 10:30:44 -0500 > From: "Ellen" <ellenrudd@ameritech.net> > To: WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com > > Good Heavens! This is the first time I've seen anything on the Wexford list > that could remotely tie in to my ancestor, Anthony Rudd, who left Clone, > Wexford, in 1816, with a few others to settle in Lansdowne/Gananoque, > Ontario. I used to live over the St. Lawrence River (in NY) from Gananoque > and visited several times, meeting ancient distant cousins. I always > wondered why my ancestor picked such a remote place to go to. The > settlement was mostly Irish and some Scots. My great grandmother was of > Scots ancestry. The whole message left me in a muddle since one of my > direct lines on my MOTHER's side is Robert Lockwood, of Winthrop's Fleet > fame. What's a Lockwood doing writing a book about people who settled where > my father's family settled? And, I'm also in Indiana, USA.... Why did > people leave Wexford and go to Gananoque? If you've ever been there, even > in the late 20th century, there's just not a whole lot there. It's very > rural; farm country. Pretty. Isolated. It's main claim to fame is a lot > of tour boats leave from there for trips around the Thousand Islands, but I > don't think that was a draw in 1816. If anyone has the book, are there any > Rudds involved? > > Ellen Rudd > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Greg Finnegan <finnegan@fas.harvard.edu> > To: <WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 3:18 PM > Subject: [WEX] Musgrave Source & Webster history > > > Re those seeking Musgrave--the modern reprint was from a small > > (kitchen-table?) press in Indiana USA, so possibly outside even > > Amazon.com's massive list. The book is listed for sale by a Canadian > > genealogy book/etc vendor: > > > > http://globalgenealogy.com/ireland.htm > > > > SIR RICHARD MUSGRAVE'S MEMOIRS OF THE IRISH REBELLION OF 1798 - Most > > important contemporary published source on the insurrection led by the > > United Irishman. More information > > > > CAT #239001 ..........$79.99 Canadian Dollars > > > > The book IS *invaluable*, but is highly biased; the modern reprint has a > > good introduction explaining that, as well as having a much more complete > > index than the original editions. But while the book details massive > > numbers of Wexford Protestant casualties, the main list of same (as > > distinct from incidents discussed in the text itself) is the list of those > > claiming compensation. So for those of us descended from Robert WEBSTER, > > hoisted on pikes and tossed from the Enniscorthy bridge--that incident > > isn't discussed. The burning of Robert's house (and his brother's) IS > > mentioned--but he doesn't show up in the victim roster except that his > > widow's need for support is listed--but he isn't named even there, as the > > focus was naming those compensated, who were necessarily survivors. > > > > The Enniscorthy Bridge incident *IS* discussed on pp. 138-139 of Glenn J. > > LOCKWOOD, THE REAR OF LEEDS & LANSDOWNE: THE MAKING OF COMMUNITY ON THE > > GANANOQUE RIVER FRONTIER, 1796-1996, published in 1996 by the Corporation > > of the Township of the Rear of Leeds and Lansdowne, PO Box 160, Lyndhurst, > > ON. Lockwood takes the several paragraphs he quotes from "anonymous, > > WEBSTER [family history] (gestetnered manuscript and family tree, n.d.)" > > loaned to him. The same text, word for word, is also found on pp. 21-22 > of > > THE TEN BROTHERS: A GENEALOGY OF THE LEECH FAMILY TOGETHER WITH A SHORT > > BIOGRAPHY OF THE 10 BROTHERS, PUBLISHED 1951--tho' the preface is signed > J. > > Hillyard LEECH, KC, Winnipeg MN, March 8th 1929. The 10 brothers in > > question, developers of Gorrie (sic) Ontario in the 1850's-70's, were sons > > of Barbara WEBSTER, dau. of the Robert killed on the bridge. > > > > Greg Finnegan > > Seeking Palatine POOLEs (Ram estates, Gorey), JOHNSTON (exact location in > > N. WEX unknown), LEECH, and WEBSTER (Garrybrit.) > > > > Gregory A. Finnegan, PhD > > Associate Librarian for Public Services > > and Head of Reference > > Tozzer Library > > Harvard University > > 21 Divinity Avenue > > Cambridge MA 02138-2089 > > 617-495-2253 fax 617-496-2741 > > gregory_finnegan@harvard.edu > > > > "...have mercy on us all --Presbyterians and Pagans alike -- for we are > all > > somehow dreadfully cracked about the head, and sadly need mending." > > MOBY-DICK, chapter 17. > > > > > > > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: [WEX] Gananoque/Lansdowne > Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 16:14:17 -1000 > From: "John Connors" <chrisone@nf.sympatico.ca> > To: WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com > > Great Question, one which I've asked myself about my ancestors who also > emigrated from County Wexford in 1816 for a small outport in Newfoundland. > After ready a little about Ireland and in particular County Wexford, I've > come to the conclusion that maybe the question needs to asked in perspective > of the conditions in Ireland during this period. I suspect that anything had > to be a great impovement for most who emigrated. > > Regards > John Connors > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ellen" <ellenrudd@ameritech.net> > To: <WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: February 27, 2000 5:30 AM > Subject: [WEX] Gananoque/Lansdowne > > > Good Heavens! This is the first time I've seen anything on the Wexford > list > > that could remotely tie in to my ancestor, Anthony Rudd, who left Clone, > > Wexford, in 1816, with a few others to settle in Lansdowne/Gananoque, > > Ontario. I used to live over the St. Lawrence River (in NY) from > Gananoque > > and visited several times, meeting ancient distant cousins. I always > > wondered why my ancestor picked such a remote place to go to. The > > settlement was mostly Irish and some Scots. My great grandmother was of > > Scots ancestry. The whole message left me in a muddle since one of my > > direct lines on my MOTHER's side is Robert Lockwood, of Winthrop's Fleet > > fame. What's a Lockwood doing writing a book about people who settled > where > > my father's family settled? And, I'm also in Indiana, USA.... Why did > > people leave Wexford and go to Gananoque? If you've ever been there, even > > in the late 20th century, there's just not a whole lot there. It's very > > rural; farm country. Pretty. Isolated. It's main claim to fame is a lot > > of tour boats leave from there for trips around the Thousand Islands, but > I > > don't think that was a draw in 1816. If anyone has the book, are there > any > > Rudds involved? > > > > Ellen Rudd > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Greg Finnegan <finnegan@fas.harvard.edu> > > To: <WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 3:18 PM > > Subject: [WEX] Musgrave Source & Webster history > > > > > > > Re those seeking Musgrave--the modern reprint was from a small > > > (kitchen-table?) press in Indiana USA, so possibly outside even > > > Amazon.com's massive list. The book is listed for sale by a Canadian > > > genealogy book/etc vendor: > > > > > > http://globalgenealogy.com/ireland.htm > > > > > > SIR RICHARD MUSGRAVE'S MEMOIRS OF THE IRISH REBELLION OF 1798 - Most > > > important contemporary published source on the insurrection led by the > > > United Irishman. More information > > > > > > CAT #239001 ..........$79.99 Canadian Dollars > > > > > > The book IS *invaluable*, but is highly biased; the modern reprint has a > > > good introduction explaining that, as well as having a much more > complete > > > index than the original editions. But while the book details massive > > > numbers of Wexford Protestant casualties, the main list of same (as > > > distinct from incidents discussed in the text itself) is the list of > those > > > claiming compensation. So for those of us descended from Robert WEBSTER, > > > hoisted on pikes and tossed from the Enniscorthy bridge--that incident > > > isn't discussed. The burning of Robert's house (and his brother's) IS > > > mentioned--but he doesn't show up in the victim roster except that his > > > widow's need for support is listed--but he isn't named even there, as > the > > > focus was naming those compensated, who were necessarily survivors. > > > > > > The Enniscorthy Bridge incident *IS* discussed on pp. 138-139 of Glenn > J. > > > LOCKWOOD, THE REAR OF LEEDS & LANSDOWNE: THE MAKING OF COMMUNITY ON THE > > > GANANOQUE RIVER FRONTIER, 1796-1996, published in 1996 by the > Corporation > > > of the Township of the Rear of Leeds and Lansdowne, PO Box 160, > Lyndhurst, > > > ON. Lockwood takes the several paragraphs he quotes from "anonymous, > > > WEBSTER [family history] (gestetnered manuscript and family tree, n.d.)" > > > loaned to him. The same text, word for word, is also found on pp. 21-22 > > of > > > THE TEN BROTHERS: A GENEALOGY OF THE LEECH FAMILY TOGETHER WITH A SHORT > > > BIOGRAPHY OF THE 10 BROTHERS, PUBLISHED 1951--tho' the preface is signed > > J. > > > Hillyard LEECH, KC, Winnipeg MN, March 8th 1929. The 10 brothers in > > > question, developers of Gorrie (sic) Ontario in the 1850's-70's, were > sons > > > of Barbara WEBSTER, dau. of the Robert killed on the bridge. > > > > > > Greg Finnegan > > > Seeking Palatine POOLEs (Ram estates, Gorey), JOHNSTON (exact location > in > > > N. WEX unknown), LEECH, and WEBSTER (Garrybrit.) > > > > > > Gregory A. Finnegan, PhD > > > Associate Librarian for Public Services > > > and Head of Reference > > > Tozzer Library > > > Harvard University > > > 21 Divinity Avenue > > > Cambridge MA 02138-2089 > > > 617-495-2253 fax 617-496-2741 > > > gregory_finnegan@harvard.edu > > > > > > "...have mercy on us all --Presbyterians and Pagans alike -- for we are > > all > > > somehow dreadfully cracked about the head, and sadly need mending." > > > MOBY-DICK, chapter 17. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: [WEX] Gananoque/Lansdowne > Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:29:04 EST > From: Westmilli@aol.com > To: WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com > > Perhaps many of us, if not all, have asked that question. My grandparents > left beautiful Ballyboggan/Castlebridge for Baltimore City, Md. in 1889, 50 > years after the famine. He and one brother emigrated, while one other brother > and their sisters stayed, and my cousins there, as well as others, say that > CO. Wexford was not as affected by the famine, anyhow. My cousin suggests > that since his father got the house, there was no place else to go. But I do > not understand that logic, or culture, as it were. Milli > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: [WEX] Barry Family > Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 16:36:46 -0500 > From: James Cox <jim63@mediaone.net> > To: WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com > > I am a new member and just starting research on my Mother's side of the > family. Her father is James Barry who died in an accident in Boston, > Massachusetts at the age of 56yrs. He, and supposedly twin brother Thomas, > were supposed to be from County Wexford. They would be born about 1877. Both > married Coughlins (Mary and Annie) who are supposed to be from Tipperary. I > believe they got married in Boston. All of them should have been employed by > the CIA. They were very good at keeping secrets about their families. Any > help with this would be greatly appreciated. > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: [WEX] Doyle Family > Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 16:52:25 -0500 > From: "Dann-Online" <dann@dann-online.com> > To: WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com > > I am looking for info on William H. Doyle born Jan 8, 1855....married to > Elizabeth Gallagher ..who was born Nov. 4, 1853. They were possibly born in > county Wexford....or possibly in the US. Some records say that their parents > (and I do not know their names) came over in 1840. > William and Elizabeth had a large family all born in the USA--Mamie (born > 1875), Lizzie (born 1877), Tessie (born 1879), Hugh (born 1882), Patrick > (born 1884), James (born 1892), William O. (born 1886) and twins Frank and > Sadie (born 1889). They settled in Bensen, Minnesota. > I would love some info on the Ireland end---the name of their parents---the > town in Wexford they were from--the name of the ship they came over > on----more about Elizabeth Gallagher's family. Any info would be wonderful ! > Thanks so much !! > Joa Hello in the list of freeholders in the Wexford Independent Nov.1832 there was a Thomas and Richard Rudd Clone and a Thomas from Tomsallagh. [Rudd] .Ithink a Mr Rudd took over the land at Ballynabarnagh .Formmore information please contact me Peter