After I hit the send key, I did think that I didn't communicate what I meant to say and had a glimmer I'd sounded offensive. I loved northern NY, the Thousand Islands, and my distant cousins in the G/L area. It is beautiful country. There is NOT a lot of industry and that isn't a criticism. I am still puzzled about how people in a rural area in Ireland in 1816 heard about a rural area in any other location, even in Ireland, let alone across the ocean. It was a thoughtless communication written when I was tired. It's not fair to globally insult Americans, either, because I made a thoughtless comment. I don't think a lot of *my* culture is superior. I wish my ancestors had remained farmers and still lived in G/L. It's a hell of a lot prettier than where I live. And, there's much about Canadian government and services I find superior to ours. So, my deep apologies for having written offensively. It was truly unintended. Anyone who has ever been to the Thousand Islands, on either side of the river, knows how incredibly beautiful the area is. But, how did someone in 1816 Clone, Wexford, know about it? That was my question however ill put. Sincere apologies.....Ellen Rudd ----- Original Message ----- From: M Hankins <mandf.hankins@sympatico.ca> To: Ellen <ellenrudd@ameritech.net> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 1:40 PM Subject: RE: [WEX] Gananoque/Lansdowne > Dear Ellen, > I don't know whether you realize how incredibly patronizing your remarks are > to the people who still live in this area. I know Americans think what they > have is superior - and are not shy about saying so - but surely to insult > your ancestors and the present inhabitants of the area - worldwide yet!- is > going a bit far. > Adele > > > > < Why did > people leave Wexford and go to Gananoque? If you've ever been there, even > in the late 20th century, there's just not a whole lot there. It's very > rural; farm country. Pretty. Isolated. It's main claim to fame is a lot > of tour boats leave from there for trips around the Thousand Islands, but I > don't think that was a draw in 1816. > > Ellen Rudd > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Greg Finnegan <finnegan@fas.harvard.edu> > To: <WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 3:18 PM > Subject: [WEX] Musgrave Source & Webster history > > > > Re those seeking Musgrave--the modern reprint was from a small > > (kitchen-table?) press in Indiana USA, so possibly outside even > > Amazon.com's massive list. The book is listed for sale by a Canadian > > genealogy book/etc vendor: > > > > http://globalgenealogy.com/ireland.htm > > > > SIR RICHARD MUSGRAVE'S MEMOIRS OF THE IRISH REBELLION OF 1798 - Most > > important contemporary published source on the insurrection led by the > > United Irishman. More information > > > > CAT #239001 ..........$79.99 Canadian Dollars > > > > The book IS *invaluable*, but is highly biased; the modern reprint has a > > good introduction explaining that, as well as having a much more complete > > index than the original editions. But while the book details massive > > numbers of Wexford Protestant casualties, the main list of same (as > > distinct from incidents discussed in the text itself) is the list of those > > claiming compensation. So for those of us descended from Robert WEBSTER, > > hoisted on pikes and tossed from the Enniscorthy bridge--that incident > > isn't discussed. The burning of Robert's house (and his brother's) IS > > mentioned--but he doesn't show up in the victim roster except that his > > widow's need for support is listed--but he isn't named even there, as the > > focus was naming those compensated, who were necessarily survivors. > > > > The Enniscorthy Bridge incident *IS* discussed on pp. 138-139 of Glenn J. > > LOCKWOOD, THE REAR OF LEEDS & LANSDOWNE: THE MAKING OF COMMUNITY ON THE > > GANANOQUE RIVER FRONTIER, 1796-1996, published in 1996 by the Corporation > > of the Township of the Rear of Leeds and Lansdowne, PO Box 160, Lyndhurst, > > ON. Lockwood takes the several paragraphs he quotes from "anonymous, > > WEBSTER [family history] (gestetnered manuscript and family tree, n.d.)" > > loaned to him. The same text, word for word, is also found on pp. 21-22 > of > > THE TEN BROTHERS: A GENEALOGY OF THE LEECH FAMILY TOGETHER WITH A SHORT > > BIOGRAPHY OF THE 10 BROTHERS, PUBLISHED 1951--tho' the preface is signed > J. > > Hillyard LEECH, KC, Winnipeg MN, March 8th 1929. The 10 brothers in > > question, developers of Gorrie (sic) Ontario in the 1850's-70's, were sons > > of Barbara WEBSTER, dau. of the Robert killed on the bridge. > > > > Greg Finnegan > > Seeking Palatine POOLEs (Ram estates, Gorey), JOHNSTON (exact location in > > N. WEX unknown), LEECH, and WEBSTER (Garrybrit.) > > > > Gregory A. Finnegan, PhD > > Associate Librarian for Public Services > > and Head of Reference > > Tozzer Library > > Harvard University > > 21 Divinity Avenue > > Cambridge MA 02138-2089 > > 617-495-2253 fax 617-496-2741 > > gregory_finnegan@harvard.edu > > > > "...have mercy on us all --Presbyterians and Pagans alike -- for we are > all > > somehow dreadfully cracked about the head, and sadly need mending." > > MOBY-DICK, chapter 17. > > > > > > > > ______________________________ >