Since I have just subscribed to this list I am following the directions and saying hello & letting everyone know my surnames. I haven't been do genealogy for very long and I just received some information from aunt. My ggggrandparents were Lawrence J DORAN b 9/29/1837 d 7/30/1913 and Ellen McALLISTER (sometimes Collister) b 5/27/1836 d 10/25/1903. They were born & married in County Wexford, Ireland. Or so it says. They had 10 children of which only one was born in Ireland and his name was John. The other children's names were Lawrence, James, Mary, Anne, Ellen, Elizabeth, William, Katherine, & Margaret. There was a Doran fact & fiction page from I don't know where saying that they had to leave either MN or WI because the "Connels were coming". This individual said the Connels were Irish Hang-men. Is this a general name or was this someone's family name? I would like to find out a little more about this if anyone has ever heard this before. I don't know how you go about proving the information and finding out who their parents are to back any further. I'm a little overwhelmed at the moment so I'm not exactly sure what I am looking for from this list but I thought that I would subscribe and she what is posted and it might give me a clue to what I want to know and what I can learn from this list. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Tammy

Thanks, Gregory, for the interesting information. I'll look up some of your references. Gayle Mitchell Vancouver BC gayle_bill_mitchell@compuserve.com I don't have precise information, but FRIZZAL (various spellings) was one of the families of "Palatine Irish," German Protestants who fled French harrassment and the destruction of Rhine vinyards in the bitter winter of 1708/9---some 10K took up Queen Anne's expressions of support and came to London--whence most were sent to Pennsylvania, where they wished to go. ..... Gregory A. Finnegan, PhD gregory_finnegan@harvard.edu

In reply to Gayle Mitchell's query yesterday: >I have managed to trace my TETLOCK ancestors to Samuel TETLOCK whose Ontario >death certificate (1880) says he was born 1807 in County Wexford Ireland. He >married Eliza FRIZZAL (I believe) but I don't know where. Does anyone know >of any TETLOCKS or FRIZZALS or have any idea where I might go for further >information? They appear to have been Anglican though some of their >descendents were Methodist. I don't know when they (or he) arrived in >Canada. >Gayle Mitchell Vancouver BC gayle_bill_mitchell@compuserve.com I don't have precise information, but FRIZZAL (various spellings) was one of the families of "Palatine Irish," German Protestants who fled French harrassment and the destruction of Rhine vinyards in the bitter winter of 1708/9---some 10K took up Queen Anne's expressions of support and came to London--whence most were sent to Pennsylvania, where they wished to go. But 200 families were diverted to Ireland to beef up the Protestant demographics. Most went to Limerick, but 35 families were settled on RAM family estates in WEX. These included FRIZZELs and POOLEs (Puhl, it's suggest, originally), my ancestors. The Palatines were Protestant already, but became devout Methodists when preached to by John Wesley himself. The Wexford Rising in 1798 began more or less literally with the burning of the house of another Methodist ancestor of mine, Robt. Webster, in Garrybrit. The events of '98 persuaded the Methodists (including the Palatines) that their prospects were dim in southern Ireland, and many or most emigrated to what is now Ontario when the ending of the Napoleonic Wars made travel possible. Wesleyanism had been introduced to North American (New York) in the 1760's by Palatine Irish emigrants. There are a number of sources for these people in Canada, and many more those who went straight to Penn. AUTHOR: Heald, Carolyn A., 1963- TITLE: The Irish Palatines in Ontario : religion, ethnicity and rural migration / by Carolyn A. Heald. PUB. INFO: Gananoque, Ont. : Langdale Press, c1994. DESCRIPTION: 195 p. : ill. ; 23 cm. SUBJECTS: *S1 Palatines--Ontario--History. *S2 Irish--Ontario--History. *S3 Palatines--Ireland--History--18th century. *S4 Immigrants--Ontario--History. AUTHOR: O'Connor, Patrick J., Dr. TITLE: People make places : the story of the Irish Palatines / Patrick J. O'Connor. PUB. INFO: Newcastle West, Co. Limerick : Oireacht na Mumhan Books, c1989. DESCRIPTION: 229 p. : ill. ; 23 cm. SUBJECTS: *S1 Palatines--Ireland--History. *S2 Germans--Ireland--History. *S3 Ethnology--Ireland. *S4 Rhineland-Palatinate (Germany)--Emigration and immigration. *S5 Ireland--Civilization--German influences. FRIZZELs are mentioned in these and other sources. I don't have info on Tetlock, but if they were Methodists (likely given the FRIZZEL connection), then they were likely part of what was not merely emigration to Canada, but one structured as 'chain migration' of groups going were there were already kin/neighbors. My POOLE/JOHNSTON/WEBSTER/COPELAND ancestors, from the Gorey area and Garrybrit, moved to Perth in E. Ontario, to Newboro nearby, then to Gorrie (sic)(Ottawa botched the postoffice application!) in Huron County in W. ON, then to Balcarres in what is now Saskatchewan. In each location the same connected families lived, and were the pillars of the local Methodist church (and were frequently clergy or held local preaching licenses.) And re who was Anglican and who was Methodist--the latter was a 'tendancy' within Anglicanism until 1795, over and above the C of I being the state religion that everyone had to pay for and be married etc in. I'll be interested to hear of/from others pursuing WEX Wesleyans and their emigration. Cheers/Greg Gregory A. Finnegan, PhD Associate Librarian for Public Services and Head of Reference Tozzer Library Harvard University 21 Divinity Avenue Cambridge MA 02138-2089 617-495-2253 fax 617-496-2741 gregory_finnegan@harvard.edu "...have mercy on us all --Presbyterians and Pagans alike -- for we are all somehow dreadfully cracked about the head, and sadly need mending." MOBY-DICK, chapter 17.

I just joined a Canadian Irish list and so far there have been some good posts regarding all the Irish that went to Canada in the early 1800. Irish-Canadian-L@rootsweb.com This is the rootsweb address to subscribe to this list. Pam Kehoe Wisconsin US KEHOE(LOW,SCOTT,ELDER and more) Family website http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/8798/ Celtic Women International http://www.celticwomen.org

I have managed to trace my TETLOCK ancestors to Samuel TETLOCK whose Ontario death certificate (1880) says he was born 1807 in County Wexford Ireland. He married Eliza FRIZZAL (I believe) but I don't know where. Does anyone know of any TETLOCKS or FRIZZALS or have any idea where I might go for further information? They appear to have been Anglican though some of their descendents were Methodist. I don't know when they (or he) arrived in Canada. I'm very new to genealogy and would welcome any advice at all. Thanks. Gayle Mitchell Vancouver BC gayle_bill_mitchell@compuserve.com

Looking For LAMB(e), DOYLE, O'LAUGHLIN from Northwest Wexford. Lived near Wicklow border (up around Carnew area) but just inside Wexford county line. Tom Lamb (outside Detroit)

>>>> Lady look at him and say,"What your name? > > He say,"Moise Plotnik" > > Then she look at me and go,"What your name?" > > I say,"Sem Ting." > > Now I understand why some relatives are hard to find.<<< <LOL>... That had me chortling all morning. On a Monday, thanks, I needed that... <G> B.

Hello, I'm new to the list and am researching the QUINN family from Enniscorthy. Patrick QUINN was the head of household. Patrick was listed as a dealer, chicken dealer and finally a poulterer at different times on various records. They lived on Mary Street, and The Shannon, Parish of TempleShannon. He was married to Mary MOORE, born 1840, daughter of Thomas MOORE and Margaret GODFREY. Patrick and Mary had the following children that I know of: Thomas b 1864 m Mary ??? Margaret Mary b 1866 m Richard Huebner Andrew Joseph b 1873 m Ellen Cecilia Donnelly Kennedy Patrick b 1874 never married d 1940 John b 1875 never married d 1940 Mary b 1878 m Arthur Taylor Nicholas b 1879 m Delia ??? All of the above children came to the Chicago, IL area. The last to come were Patrick and John who traveled with mother Mary. They immigrated after Patrick Sr died in Ireland about 1909. All are buried in Mt. Carmel Cemetery, Hillside, IL. On the 1901 Census of Ireland the only ones listed were Patrick Sr., Mary, Patrick, John and an Alfred Benson, 8 yrs old, from England, who was listed as an adopted child. I have seen no other reference to Alfred and do not know the relationship. Sherry Quinn

Hi again. Below are my great-grandfather's lines, also all in the Bunclody area of Co. Wexford. Thanks in advance for any information you might have to share. 1 Patrick LEARY - -------------------------------------- Birth: Mar 1816 Death: 26 Jan 1918 Spouse: Catharine Anne FLOOD Birth: Dec 1823, Ireland Death: 23 Jan 1916 Children: Peter (1858-1945) 1.1 Peter O'LEARY - -------------------------------------- Birth: Jul 1858, Springmount Rathnure, Wexford, Ireland Death: 2 May 1945, Wells, MN Spouse: Nora MURPHY Birth: 1887, Bunclody, Wexford, Ireland Death: 1964, Wells, MN Father: James MURPHY (1851-1921) Mother: Johanna HANDRICK (1856-1940) Marr: abt 1904, Easton, Wells, MN Ann Kingman clumber@ici.net

Hello. I am a new subscriber to this list, so am taking this opportunity to introduce myself. I have not done much research on my Irish lines as of yet, but am thankful to a relative who has done quite a bit and has shared it with me. Now I would like to go further. Though I have been to "the homeland" a few times, I am not that familiar with the geography of County Wexford. All I know is that these places are all in the area of what is now Bunclody. The information below is all I have on this line, with the exception of Nora Murphy, on whom I have complete descendant information. I also have a smattering of other, mostly family tradition information. If anything looks familiar to anyone, please let me know. : 1 James MURPHY - -------------------------------------- Birth: abt 1770, Mandoran, Bunclody, Co Wexford Death: abt 1830, Mandoran, Bunclody, Co Wexford Spouse: UNKNOWN Children: Stephen (~1800-~1890) 1.1 Stephen MURPHY - -------------------------------------- Birth: abt 1800, Mandoran, Bunclody, Co Wexfrd Death: abt 1890, Ballinavocran, Bunclody, Co Wexford Spouse: Honora SOMERS Birth: abt 1810, Mullawn Bunclody Death: abt 1890, Balinavocran, Bunclody Marr: abt 1847, unknown Children: James (1851-1921) 1.1.1 James MURPHY - -------------------------------------- Birth: 1851, Ballinvocran, Co Wexford Ireland Death: 1921, Ditto Spouse: Johanna HANDRICK Birth: 1856, Craan, Bunclody Death: 1940, Ballinavocran, Bunclody Father: John HANDRICK (1826-1907) Mother: Catherine KELLY (-~1895) Marr: 1876, Kilmyshall, Bunclody Children: Nora (1887-1964) 1.1.1.1 Nora MURPHY - -------------------------------------- Birth: 1887, Bunclody, Wexford, Ireland Death: 1964, Wells, MN Spouse: Peter O'LEARY Birth: Jul 1858, Springmount Rathnure, Wexford, Ireland Death: 2 May 1945, Wells, MN Father: Patrick LEARY (1816-1918) Mother: Catharine Anne FLOOD (1823-1916) Marr: abt 1904, Easton, Wells, MN Ann Kingman clumber@ici.net

Hello Everyone, Have just decided to post the Witnesses after reading of the value of them on another list. WITNESSES - THOMAS IRWIN for Allen FOSTER GEORGE and MARGARET RUDD for Martha RUDD In 1878 at Cathedral Church, Ferns Parish, Enniscorthy, Wexford, Ireland, by License-Church of England, Rector CHARLES HIND. WITNESSES - PATRICK JOYE for Michael Mark BARRY and PATRICK MURPHY FOR Ellen(Ellenor)MURPHY. In 1842 at the Church of St Finbarr, Cork city, Ireland, according to the rules of the Catholic church and the laws of Ireland. I hope to hear from anyone who think they know any of these. Eleanor in Queensland.

Hi My name is George and I am married to a Grand daughter of a George ABBOTT . Have found a birth notice for George as being born on the 17-08-1874 in Wexford Ireland His father being Patrick ABBOTT (Michael) Mother Mary (nee O'KAY) or Kathleen (nee HAYES) Vol Page George Granard 13 179 The wife's Grand father was a merchant sailor who jumped ship in New Zealand and was killed in France during the first Wold war.

Walking through San Francisco' Chinatown,a tourist becomes fascinated by all of the Chinese restaurants,shops,signs and banners. He turns a corner and sees a building with the sign,"Moise Plotkin's Chinese Laundry." "Moise Plotkin?" He muses. "how does that name fit in here?" So he enters the store and finds an old Chinese gentleman behind the counter. The tourist asks,"How did this place get a name like "Moise Plotnik's Chinese Laundry?" The old man answers,"Is name of owner." The tourist asks,"Well,who and where is the owner?" "Me, is right here," replies the old man. "You? How did you get a name like Moise Plotnik?" "Is simple,"says the old man. Many,many year ago when come to this country,was standing in line at Documentation Center. Man in front is gentleman from Poland." Lady look at him and say,"What your name?" He say,"Moise Plotnik" Then she look at me and go,"What your name?" I say,"Sem Ting." Now I understand why some relatives are hard to find. I am a new "subscriber" Thanks for the welcome.I did not receive Digest V99 #95. Can you help?

--part1_32047b18.24f9cea0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Since this is a County Wexford genealogy search, thought I'd share it with my County Wexford listers as well as the Duffield list. Appreciate any help or light at the end of the tunnel anyone can provide. With all good wishes, /S/ Jim Carey Washington, DC --part1_32047b18.24f9cea0_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: RADMCarey@aol.com From: RADMCarey@aol.com Full-name: RADM Carey Message-ID: <cfbef340.24f953db@aol.com> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:01:47 EDT Subject: My Duffields To: DUFFIELD-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 are from County Wexford, Ireland, and I have two of them in my lineage. Martha DUFFIELD married Edward TACKABERRY of Farouamille, County Wexford [spelling may be wrong -- presuming both born around 1800] and they had three children, Elizabeth Ruth TACKABERRY b. August 19, 1823 [my Great Grandmother], and sons Nicholas and William [don't have birth dates]. Martha's sister Hannagh DUFFIELD [b. 1793, presumably also in Farouamille] married my Great Great Grandfather Bengeman HARRISON,[ b. 1775 in Hardyglass near Lake Tacumshin, County Wexford] and one of their sons was Samuel Aaron HARRISON b. July 25, 1823. Samuel was a sea-going Navigator by trade, and had 5 brothers & sisters as follows: Hannah Francis, b. 1820; Susan b. 1818, and Benjamine, William, & George, & I don't have birth dates or years on any of the last 3. Bengeman HARRISON died March 24, 1852, and Hannagh DUFFIELD HARRISON dued July 15, 1843. Both are buried in Ballybrennan Cemetery in County Wexford. In addition to Hannagh & Martha, my records show there was a third Duffield daughter, Susan, and no sons. Don't have any further information on Susan other than her name. Elizabeth Ruth TACKABERRY, Martha DUFFIELD's daughter, [and possibly one or more of her sisters] and Hannagh DUFFIELD's son Samual Aaron HARRISON, both emigrated from Ireland aboard the ship GLENLYON, sailing from New Ross, Ireland on April 28th, 1854 and landing in Montreal, Canada in June of that year. They remained in Canada for several years, and got married on Christmas Day of either 1854 or 1855, and some of their children were born there, before emigrating to the USA, where they settled in the Township of Leon, Waushara County, near Lake Poygan in Wisconsin. One of their sons, Cadwallader Joseph Edmund HARRISON was my grandfather and his first born, Ruth Margaret HARRISON was my mother. Interested in trying to locate some of my DUFFIELD ancestors in Ireland, or any of their descendents either in Ireland or the USA. With two DUFFIELD sisters in my direct line of lineage, this is an important part of my families heritage. Any and all responses much appreciated. With all good wishes, /S/ Rear Admiral Jim Carey Washington, DC --part1_32047b18.24f9cea0_boundary--

--part1_dd5adce8.24f9ce39_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Since this is a Wexford-related post, thought I'd forward it there so I can get input from any of you that might have HARRISON / DUFFIELD / TACKABERRY information from our little corner of Wexford. With all good wishes, /S/ Jim Carey Washington, DC --part1_dd5adce8.24f9ce39_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: RADMCarey@aol.com From: RADMCarey@aol.com Full-name: RADM Carey Message-ID: <bdda8684.24f98074@aol.com> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:12:04 EDT Subject: My HARRISONs To: HARRISON-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 are from County Wexford, where they farmed at a place called Hardyglass, near Lake Tacumshin, about 20 miles Southwest of Wexford City. My Great Great Grandfather was Bengeman Harrison, b. in 1775 at Hardyglass. He married Hannagh DUFFIELD, b. 1793. Bengeman [probably spelled Benjamin today] died at Hardyglass March 24, 1852, and is buried in Ballybrennan Cemetery in County Wexford alongside Hannagh, who died July 15, 1843. They had six children that I'm aware of: Samuel Aaron b. July 25, 1823, Hannah Francis b. 1820, Susan b. 1818, and Benjamine, William, and George, all of unknown birthdates or years. I'm presuming they were married around 1815 - 20, guessing from the known ages of some of the children. Interestingly, also in County Wexford lived Hannagh's sister Martha, and she married Edward Tackaberry of Farouamille, Wexford. [I do believe there was also one other DUFFIELD sister named Susan, but have no further information on her]. Martha and Ed Tackaberry had one daughter that I'm aware of, Elizabeth Ruth, b. 8-19-1823. On April 28, 1854, Samuel Aaron HARRISON, whose training was in seamanship and navigation and who sailed in merchant ships from Liverpool to Baltimore in the late 1840's and early 1850's, and Elizabeth Ruth TACKABERRY [and supposedly two of Elizabeth's sisters and a cousin, although I have no record or names for them] sailed aboard the ship GLENLYON out of New Ross, County Wexford on April 28, 1854 bound for Montreal, Canada. My guess is that they arrived in Montreal in June of 1854. Either that Christmas Day or the following Christmas Day, Samuel and Elizabeth were married "in the farm home of Elizabeth's married sister on the Ontario/Vermont border" [according to a remembrance written by one of the family many years ago]. For a time [several years], they lived in in Smith Falls, Ontario where they ran a general store, and then in the early 1860's, they emigrated to the USA, arriving by boat in Milwaukee, and then overland to Oshkosh on Lake Winnebago, where Samuel worked for a time as a stone mason. Ultimately they homesteaded a farm in Waushara County, between Poy Sippi and Tustin about two miles from the shores of Lake Poygan, where their additional children were born: Hannah Elizabeth, b. 1856; Martha Jane b. 1858; Susan Marie b. 1860; Samuel Aaron Jr., b. 1-30-1861; George W. b. 1863; Benjamin Edward Tackaberry Harrison b. 1866, and Cadwalleder Joseph Edmund Harrison [my maternal grandfather] b. 12-22-1867. Not sure which were born in Canada and which in the USA. My interest is in locating the burial sites of Bengeman & Hannagh's predecesors, any of their descendents that remain in Ireland, and any descendents that I am unaware of in the USA or in Australia, where I understand some of the family may have also emigrated to. Any and all responses welcomed. With all good wishes, /S/ Rear Admiral Jim Carey Washington, DC Son of Ruth Margaret HARRISON & Robert Emmett CAREY Grandson of Cadwallader Joseph Edmund HARRISON & Jennie Mae McGREGOR Great Grandson of Samuel Aaron HARRISON & Elizabeth Ruth TACKABERRY Great Great Grandson of Bengeman HARRISON & Hannagh DUFFIELD --part1_dd5adce8.24f9ce39_boundary--

Sheila wrote: "I'm trying to find the descendants & ancestors of Richard WESTNOTT who married Mary KEHOE [date&place unknown]Their son John was born 30 Aug 1905 at Scouchmolin,Bridgetown,Wexford.He is believed to have had sons Richard and Gary, dau.Julia,Margaret and Josie. Also another Richard who married Anna[1787-1872]-children Richard,William,John,Jane and Mary. The entire family came to Ont.Canada before 1846. Thanks, Sheila gabby@idirect.com" SHeila... are your dates correct? born 1905? and then dates for anna 1787? I'm also working on Kehoe's....and would love to know more. Please email me direct. Pam Kehoe Wisconsin KEHOE(LOW,SCOTT,ELDER and more) Family website http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/8798 Celtic Women International http://www.celticwomen.org

My Great-grandfather John Thomas Holmes (1881-1952) married Albertina Zimber in 1902 in New Ross. The family later moved to Kilkenny. John was a Methodist. I have been told that Albertina's family had a watch-making business in New Ross and at some point they originated in Alsace. I am interested in tracing the Zimber family and the obvious place to start is with the records of their marriage. Can any one help with? info, tips, hints suggestions I will be grateful for anything offered. Thanks Kevin Holmes

Hi all, I'm trying to find the descendants & ancestors of Richard WESTNOTT who married Mary KEHOE [date&place unknown]Their son John was born 30 Aug 1905 at Scouchmolin,Bridgetown,Wexford.He is believed to have had sons Richard and Gary, dau.Julia,Margaret and Josie. Also another Richard who married Anna[1787-1872]-children Richard,William,John,Jane and Mary. The entire family came to Ont.Canada before 1846. Thanks, Sheila gabby@idirect.com

Am researching the names of LAWLER and FITZPATRICK from the area around Gorey. Specifically Annie Lawler(or) dtr of Michael Lawler and Mary Fitzpatrick. Annie's full name could be Mary Ann. She was born around 1850 and m'd Patrick McGuiness in the state of Illinois in 1870. Would like to correspond with anyone connected with this family.

To all listowners to which this is being mailed to: I think I've talked to you all at some stage or other. The following is off topic re genealogy but I think is also very on topic. I've been on a number of groups which had wonderful contributors. I can see that some of the groups to which this is going have begun to take off recently as regards people contributing information.... This post began as a reply to someone who had mailed me personally re something I had posted to one list only.....it was when I finished it that I decided I would send it also to those lists I am still subscribed to To everybody: The mail is more directed at those people who would be negative about receiving too much mail from any newsgroup. Who would complain to listowners or rootsweb about contributions to any newsgroup...other than those of a political nature or which become newsgroups where everyone is sending in jokes and other topics absolutely unrelated to genealogy. In every aspect of life there has to be some give and take. in order to get information - then if you give a little leeway to those who I describe here as becoming regular contributors you will get in return. Maybe not today or tomorrow....but next week or next year. I ask people to really consider what they are doing, and think about what any person they would complain about on any newsgroup contributes - before heading off to make that complaint. I've been on newsgroups for almost three years now and I've found that for each one people gradually get to know one another, or one anothers posts would be a more true thing to say. They become comfortable with a list, with those they know on it, while forgetting that they've really only met a very very small percentage of those subscribed. Gradually these who become comfortable seem to introduce something more than just posting of information, sometimes they send a mail intended for one or two people privately to the list and then end up apologising to the list, and at the same time - they meet loads more people who tell them that they didn't mind the mistake, who while they lurk and don't post themselves appreciate the posting of the individual who made the mistake. Long sentence that.....hope it comes across ok. Also, those who contribute regularly and who have become familiar with the list - they may send in a joke or two.....something that it not absolutely genealogically related, a bit of history - something 'off-topic' but not too much so. Then, someone who lurks begins to lodge complaints - either with the listowner or rootsweb. Others who have lurked will also begin to complain....and because for any good list there are always many more subscribers than contributors and so those who complain can count more. It's the same old story - happens all the time, has done with so many lists I've been on. What happens in the end depends on the character of the listowner - and on the number of people who make complaints - and mainly I imagine on the power of money....those who complain may be rootsweb contributors....and between them, they donate a lot of money - it amounts to more than that contributed even by those who contribute information and get enjoyment from the dissemination of this information. It is really so sad. There are petty people out there, who do nothing for themselves, or for others. Who would complain about anything and everything. I doubt that these are happy people. They take the pleasure of others and stamp on it. They take the pleasure of those who share, they take the pleasure of those who appreciate this sharing. Lord, I have learned so much from genealogy that it is absolutely incredible and I am not talking about all that I have learned on how to research in this country of mine or names or anything like that. I've learned more about people over the last three years than I ever did in my lifetime before. I did not mean this to turn out to be so long - my apologies...and I think I will forward this to all those groups I still remain on. Without your name or post to me. Jane