Listers I have traced my gggrandmother Bridget Bowe nee Murphy and her bother Moses from Morpeth, NSW, Australia back to Gorey, Wexford. They were the children of Matthew Murphy and Catherine Malloy. Bridget was born about 1830 and married in Australia and Moses was born about 1820 and married Julia MacDonald, who was born in Thurles, Co Tipperay, in 1838 in Gorey. My question is "where to from here?" I would like to discover where in Gorey that lived or perhaps it was in the surrounding district. Any help greatfully received Regards Suzanne Redhead Sydney Australia

The Wexford Surnames List To view - http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/wexford.html To Submit - http://www.flashbase.com/forms/wexford Hugh Listowner: nottsgen-L warwick-L bedford-L london-L lanark-L wexford-L new-zealand-L

Hi Pam This information was contained in an article which appeared in the local Newspaper in Newfoundland. The information that I transcribed was just a small note from that piece which was written by a local Historian, Bert Riggs, who provides such writings on a weekly basis. I am not sure what his sources were since that information was not provided. You may try to write him and ask him about this article? My Ancestor left County Wexford in 1815 and arrived in King's Cove, Newfoundland. From the book written by E R Seary on the family names of the Island of Newfoundland, the following are the references for Kehoe/Keough: Edward Kehoe (1796-1876), born in County Wexford, settled at Stone Island, Calvert in 1816. Three Keough brothers, from Ireland came to Newfoundland and settled at King's Cove, Placentia and Sunnyhill, Ferryland prior to 1815. There are many, many more references in this book for Kehoe/Keough settling in various parts of Newfoundland with the majority of these coming from County Wexford. Regards; John Connors -----Original Message----- From: Pam Kehoe <drk4779@idcnet.com> To: WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com <WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Date: November 10, 1999 4:58 PM Subject: [WEX] >John >I am very interested in where the actual quote came from and how could I >access additional Patrick Kough/Kehoe information. > >I have found my Patrick Kehoe and Bridget Bryne are from Co. carlow but >think that maybe that is where Bridget was from. They arrived in the US by >1824 and I assume came in thru Canada.....and settled in Vermont. > >I would be very interested in learning more about the Canadian Kough/Kehoe. > >Thank you >Pam Kehoe >Wisconsin > > > > > > >I visit the Archives in St John's regularly, I will keep an eye out for any >references to Joseph Furlong and Agnes Kavanagh. My Ancestors, as well, >emigrated from County Wexford. While I knew that a great number of the >original Irish emigrants came from County Wexford, I was struck by an >article which appeared in todays local newspaper. The article in question >was talking about early builders in Newfoundland and in particular, one name >Patrick Kough who was born in County Wexford in 1786 and his name first >appeared in Newfoundland documents in 1804. His claim to fame was as a >builder of many of the old historic buildings erected in Newfoundland in the >early 1800s and many of them still are standing today. The story goes that >eventually ran for one of the seats in the legislature in St John's, >Newfoundland in 1832 against another well known Newfoundlander of the time >Dr William Carson. The story goes something like this, "An Irishman named >Bennett came into the booth where a number of Wexford men were casting their >votes. > >"Well, he said, I hear Dr Carson say that he did not care how it went, so >long as he could bate (beat) Kough and the blooming yallow bellis (a >nickname applied to Wexford Men), Mr Kough was a Wexford Man and after that >he got every Wexford Vote". Kough went on to win the election and served >several terms in the local legislature. > >Regards >John ConnorsContent-Type: text/plain; > >FAMILY RESEARCH:KEHOE,LOW,SCOTT,ELDER and more >Family website - http://www.geocities.com/drk4779 >Celtic Women International - http://www.celticwomen.org >Walworth County Historical Society - http://www.geocities.com/walcohistory > > >==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== >Wexford and the 1798 Rebellion: >http://www.rtc-carlow.ie/united/98Wex.html > >============================== >RootsWeb.com now offers UNLIMITED Web space for FREE! >Sign up today for RootsWeb's Freepages program: >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > >

John I am very interested in where the actual quote came from and how could I access additional Patrick Kough/Kehoe information. I have found my Patrick Kehoe and Bridget Bryne are from Co. carlow but think that maybe that is where Bridget was from. They arrived in the US by 1824 and I assume came in thru Canada.....and settled in Vermont. I would be very interested in learning more about the Canadian Kough/Kehoe. Thank you Pam Kehoe Wisconsin I visit the Archives in St John's regularly, I will keep an eye out for any references to Joseph Furlong and Agnes Kavanagh. My Ancestors, as well, emigrated from County Wexford. While I knew that a great number of the original Irish emigrants came from County Wexford, I was struck by an article which appeared in todays local newspaper. The article in question was talking about early builders in Newfoundland and in particular, one name Patrick Kough who was born in County Wexford in 1786 and his name first appeared in Newfoundland documents in 1804. His claim to fame was as a builder of many of the old historic buildings erected in Newfoundland in the early 1800s and many of them still are standing today. The story goes that eventually ran for one of the seats in the legislature in St John's, Newfoundland in 1832 against another well known Newfoundlander of the time Dr William Carson. The story goes something like this, "An Irishman named Bennett came into the booth where a number of Wexford men were casting their votes. "Well, he said, I hear Dr Carson say that he did not care how it went, so long as he could bate (beat) Kough and the blooming yallow bellis (a nickname applied to Wexford Men), Mr Kough was a Wexford Man and after that he got every Wexford Vote". Kough went on to win the election and served several terms in the local legislature. Regards John ConnorsContent-Type: text/plain; FAMILY RESEARCH:KEHOE,LOW,SCOTT,ELDER and more Family website - http://www.geocities.com/drk4779 Celtic Women International - http://www.celticwomen.org Walworth County Historical Society - http://www.geocities.com/walcohistory

Dear listmembers: I'd like to introduce myself as a new listmember, researching the LAMBERT surname from Co. Wexford. My gg grandmother was Ellen Lambert, born 1866 in Templetown, Co. Wexford to John LAMBERT and Mary TAUBRETT (?spelling). She had a sister, Mary, born in 1883. The sisters emigrated to Nova Scotia sometime before 1896, where they married and raised families. I'd be interested to know if anyone else is researching this family name from Co. Wexford. I am also very new to researching Irish records, and have been trying to read a lot about obtaining vital records from Co. Wexford. However, I'd like to have the advise of the members of this list about how to proceed to get the baptismal or birth records for Ellen and Mary Lambert. Where should I write? the historical society or the church (Roman Catholic)? Thank you, Susan (Little) Javinsky Ottawa, Canada Researching: LITTLE, EISAN, SPEARS, CHAPMAN, WEEKS

Hello, I have an Antoine LAMBERT b. circa 1590 who was my 9th g grandfather. and Radegonde-Joy LAMBERT b 1621 who was my 8th g grandmother. Do you have them? Carol (Thibodeaux) Magee

I am still in vain searching for any reference to the surname BIRNEY, BURNEY, BURNE, etc, in County Wexford c 1800-1840. Richard, Mary, Anne, Johanna and others in this family. Any help appreciated. Slainte, Tim

Hi Judy I visit the Archives in St John's regularly, I will keep an eye out for any references to Joseph Furlong and Agnes Kavanagh. My Ancestors, as well, emigrated from County Wexford. While I knew that a great number of the original Irish emigrants came from County Wexford, I was struck by an article which appeared in todays local newspaper. The article in question was talking about early builders in Newfoundland and in particular, one name Patrick Kough who was born in County Wexford in 1786 and his name first appeared in Newfoundland documents in 1804. His claim to fame was as a builder of many of the old historic buildings erected in Newfoundland in the early 1800s and many of them still are standing today. The story goes that eventually ran for one of the seats in the legislature in St John's, Newfoundland in 1832 against another well known Newfoundlander of the time Dr William Carson. The story goes something like this, "An Irishman named Bennett came into the booth where a number of Wexford men were casting their votes. "Well, he said, I hear Dr Carson say that he did not care how it went, so long as he could bate (beat) Kough and the blooming yallow bellis (a nickname applied to Wexford Men), Mr Kough was a Wexford Man and after that he got every Wexford Vote". Kough went on to win the election and served several terms in the local legislature. Regards John Connors -----Original Message----- From: Judy Picard <judypicard@hotmail.com> To: WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com <WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Date: November 9, 1999 6:21 AM Subject: [WEX] Jane's book >I maintain a number of websites and have been thinking of setting up an 18th >century Irish literature site to preserve some of these works. I, for one, >have a 1802 by a famous couple [I'm not home to get the name] that is about >Irish bulls. Of course, it's absolutely political. >I also have a number of works by Thomas Furlong of Wexford and have some >reviews about books of this period. >So, if you Jane, or anyone else has computerized old books, I would be >willing to format them attractively and make them available to all. Just >attach it to an email and be sure you put that it's "Old Irish Book" in the >subject. Otherwise, for safety purposes, I immediately erase any email that >I'm not expecting with attachments. > >btw, I'm looking for info on: >Joseph Furlong who married Agness Kavanagh in 1881 in St. Johns Newfoundland >in RC church. Don't know if either one was born states side or in Ireland. >Family lore is the Furlongs came from Ireland, stopped in NF along the way >and stayed in Boston. Have no substantiation. > > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Judy Picard judypicard@teachers.org or judypicard@hotmail.com >Furlong site ========================> http://genweb.net/~furlong >Furlong messages =>http://genweb.net/wwwboard/Furlong/wwwboard.html >Kelly Gebert Coulter ==============> http://w3.tvi.cc.nm.us/~judyp >Windows Users Group =========>http://members.spree.com/sip/wif-nmcs >TVI-Linux Users Group ===================>http://cosmo.tvi.cc.nm.us >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > >==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== >The Wexford Surnames List is at: >http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/wexford.html > >============================== >FREE UNLIMITED Web space at RootsWeb! >Any subject: genealogy, computers, pets! Get your Freepages account today: >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > >

As I read through this I was delighted to find out more about Edward, I had been told something about him by another list member who read the book a number of years ago. I'm always delighted when I post something to any list and someone from the list gets back and tells me something of the history assoiated with what I've posted. Thank you for telling me something more of him. However - I felt very sorry for Edward when I thought about what has been written here. Earlier on in the day I had been working on a list of names of people who signed a declaration against a Repeal of the Union in 1830 and I had been thinking about the people and their lives........most of all their fears about the future The person who has already read the book said the following to me: > I guess the question that comes to my mind relates to the accuracy of the > book. I wouldn't be surprised if the book presents a legalistic defense > of as many people as possible, and shades the truth to rehabilitate as many > of the participants and residents of the area as could be done. It must be > terrible to be a defeated people who must make the compromises necessary > for life to go on as peaceable as possible after such a bloody event. and I told him that he had put words to what I think about this book in a much better way than I could. Ever since I first got onto the net I have had messages from others outside Ireland who speak of the calamities of the famine era, people who wonder do we go around killing one another here, do we hate our neighbours, people who blame the English and Protestants for every wrong that ever happened in this country. People who have read romanticised versions of our history, written perhaps because they are the versions which will sell, anything which can appeal to the hearts of the descendants of those who left. A very small percentage of people who contact me have what I would call a balanced view of our history. Maybe there is no balanced view, maybe there is not enough there for anyone to ever present a balanced view. Bad news travels fast they say - we don't read about good deeds done in our newspapers, we read of what's bad in the world. Our history books also tell of the bad, we hear about the leading characters in any event...we do hear the good they did. While these history books tell these stories - they barely glance over the fact that so many of those who were orators and 'leading characters' in Irish history were protestants. However, the fact that the landlords were mainly protestant settlers is emphasized all over the place. We rarely read in popular books of the landlords who did let their estates go to wrack and ruin because they felt for the 'people'. We rarely read that many of these 'people' were not catholic but 'protestants' - presbyterians, methodists, COI, settlers who had been moved in from England -poor or reasonably poor protestants. We don't read of those people (not catholic ) who leave money to people on their estates or in their parish when they die, some quite large sums. We rarely read of those who had been wealthy who were affected by the famine and who ended up having to sell out and go to foreign countries working on the roads as those who used to be employed by them did also............... There are two sides to every story - two people will look at something exactly the same and see it differently. Life is not necessarily fair. Nobody knows how they will behave in any given stressful situation - they can think that they would do this or that, manage this or that way - but they will never know until presented with it. Life is pretty much survival of the fittest - wherever we look - the quality of our lives is very much up to ourselves. I think that most people will try to make the best of a bad situation, I think that all stories should be told and not just the romanticised ones. I think history should be full of stories, not just facts and as interpreted by the historians..........most people will read a story and make their own decisions. It all depends on whether they take the bits they want from a story and fit it into the views they already hold - or whether they are willing to read with open minds in order to learn for themselves. There were so many different kinds of people in Ireland all trying to survive. Poor catholics, poor Protestants, rich people, cunning people, intelligent people, educated, uneducated - listening to those who spoke and who knew better than them - or did they?? Yet, only a few stories are told.......... Most families have dirty washing, baggage which they carry as a family. Few hang it out to air. They are healthy...... None of us is qualified to judge anyone else......... I just think all stories deserve telling - good, bad, indifferent. and I feel very sorry for Edward and all those other Edwards who lived in Ireland and tried to survive Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: celestine rafferty <raffs@iol.ie> To: Jane Lyons <jlyons1@iol.ie>; <WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [WEX] A book.......... > Dear Jane and list members, > > You may be interested to know a little of Edward Hay's background

Since there are so many questions on the Sinnotts, I thought this might help someone. The following Sinnotts were mentioned by Patrick Hennessy in his book "Davidstown Courtnacuddy (A Wexford Parish)" This parish is near and southwest of Enniscorthy. There were Sinnotts in Ballyelland According to the book they came from the Glenbrien area in the middle of the 19th century. They included John Sinnott, a descendent of Thomas Sinnott of Kilbride, who was in the Rebellion of 1798. John married Anne Sinnott of Ballylurkin and had four sons including Thomas D, and John and two daughters. Anne Sinnott had a brother John Sinnott, also. Walter Sinnott of Kilcarbery fought in 1798. John Sinnott of Ballellen mentioned in 1902 and 1904 John Sinnott, school teacher at Davidstown 1826, lived in Coolamurry Sinnotts were blacksmiths in Ballyden Arthur Sinnott of Coolamurry was a weaver Sue Merna Dorn merna@oregoncoast.com Researching in Wexford MERNAGH, MERNA, HENDRICKS, BRITT (BRETT), HOLLARAN. SHANLEY, Shanly and Griffin (unknown County, possibly Wexford) in Kerry Keliher (Kelleher): Minahan , Minehan (Moynihan), Kenney, Kenny (Kenna) Clark and Navin(s) (b. Scotland but ancestors may have come from Ireland, unknown County)

ross irwin wrote: > Thomas WEBSTER, b about 1781, emigrated from Gorey in 1817. Are the C of I > Gorey Parish baptisms and marriages available. Reference state they start 1801. > Where can these be accessed? > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > Wexford and the 1798 Rebellion: > http://www.rtc-carlow.ie/united/98Wex.html > > ============================== > FREE UNLIMITED Web space at RootsWeb! > Any subject: genealogy, computers, pets! Get your Freepages account today: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi I keep reading about the county named "Gorey", but does anyone have any information about the "Gorey's" who lived there. I'm looking for any information about any of the Gorey family. If anyone out there knows anything, please e-mail me at jhoenig01@snet.net I look forward to hearing from you.

God bless the Griffith Cd but it has been my experience that all the listings are NOT included on that CD, (Broderbund). Slainte, Tim gabby wrote: > Is there SKS with the Griffith CD who would see if there are any WESTNOTT > listings? > Sheila > gabby@idirect.com > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > To add names to the Wexford Surnames List, go to > http://www.flashbase.com/forms/wexford > > ============================== > FREE UNLIMITED Web space at RootsWeb! > Any subject: genealogy, computers, pets! Get your Freepages account today: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

Is there SKS with the Griffith CD who would see if there are any WESTNOTT listings? Sheila gabby@idirect.com

I maintain a number of websites and have been thinking of setting up an 18th century Irish literature site to preserve some of these works. I, for one, have a 1802 by a famous couple [I'm not home to get the name] that is about Irish bulls. Of course, it's absolutely political. I also have a number of works by Thomas Furlong of Wexford and have some reviews about books of this period. So, if you Jane, or anyone else has computerized old books, I would be willing to format them attractively and make them available to all. Just attach it to an email and be sure you put that it's "Old Irish Book" in the subject. Otherwise, for safety purposes, I immediately erase any email that I'm not expecting with attachments. btw, I'm looking for info on: Joseph Furlong who married Agness Kavanagh in 1881 in St. Johns Newfoundland in RC church. Don't know if either one was born states side or in Ireland. Family lore is the Furlongs came from Ireland, stopped in NF along the way and stayed in Boston. Have no substantiation. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Judy Picard judypicard@teachers.org or judypicard@hotmail.com Furlong site ========================> http://genweb.net/~furlong Furlong messages =>http://genweb.net/wwwboard/Furlong/wwwboard.html Kelly Gebert Coulter ==============> http://w3.tvi.cc.nm.us/~judyp Windows Users Group =========>http://members.spree.com/sip/wif-nmcs TVI-Linux Users Group ===================>http://cosmo.tvi.cc.nm.us ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Dear Jane and list members, You may be interested to know a little of Edward Hay's background. (I'll try to keep it as genealogical as possible ;-)) The author of "History of the Insurrection in County Wexford AD 1798" (Dublin, 1803) was born at Ballinkeele, County Wexford about 1761. The Hay family were wealthy, landed Catholics and Edward was educated in France and Germany. His continental education seems to have radicalised his political views and he became active in the campaign for Catholic emancipation. In contrast, his father, Harvey Hay, a political conservative, became a Justice of the Peace in 1793. (This 'generation gap' between conservative parents and their radical sons was not unusual in wealthy Catholic circles in the 1790s in Ireland). In 1795 Harvey disinherited Edward (who was his eldest son) because he disapproved of his political activities. The extent of Edward's involvement in the 1798 rebellion is difficult to assess but it is unlikely that he was a combatant. After the rebellion many individuals on both sides testified to Edward's good conduct during the period and to his efforts to save lives. Perhaps because of their testimonies, Edward escaped with his life though he was imprisoned for a short time on the sloop "The Lovely Kitty" which the local butchers had declared to be unfit for pigs!!. His brother, John, was hanged as a rebel on Wexford bridge. Another brother, Philip (who became heir to Ballinkeele when Edward was disinherited) fought on the side of the government forces. Edward scarcely mentions John in his "History" and, not surprisingly, does not mention Philip at all ! Edward Hay's "History" was first published in 1803 and is essentially a Catholic apologia for the events of 1798. It concentrates on County Wexford because that was the area that Hay knew best. Hay denies that there were any premeditated plans for rebellion in Wexford and argues that the people were goaded into revolt by the activities and conduct of the local magistrates and government forces. (This view would be challenged by Hay's contemporaries and by modern historical research) The book was written largely for an English audience and as a reply to the ultra-loyalist historian, Sir Richard Musgrave whose "Memoirs of the Rebellions in Ireland" (Dublin, 1801) had claimed that the rebellion was a "Catholic plot" to annihilate Irish protestants. Hay claimed that over 3,000 copies of his work were sold. (Incidentally, Hay actually challenged Musgrave to a duel but Musgrave declined as he was already injured from another duel!!!!) After 1798 Edward Hay continued his political activity, becoming secretary of the Catholic Committee which was agitating for Catholic emancipation. Edward used his own meagre resources to finance much of his work as secretary and entered into litigation against his brother, Philip in an attempt to retrieve some of his inheritance. Although he got a decree for two thousand pounds against the Ballinkeele estate, the money was never paid. (Ballinkeele was sold in 1825 to the Maher family). By 1826 Edward, his wife and four daughters were living in penury. Edward died in October 1826 from blood poisoning. (He had cut his finger while chopping firewood, the bailiff having taken the family's last blanket). Ironically, there are no reports of his death in the contemporary Wexford local newspapers. If anyone would like to know more about Hay there is an article on him by Margaret O hOgartaigh in the forthcoming (Dec 12) Journal of the Wexford Historical Society, [No.17, 1997-98] I am indebted to Ms O hOgartaigh's article for much of the above information. There is also an article on Hay by William Sweetman in The Past, No 15, 1984, pp 54-68 There is a pedigree of the Hays of Ballinkeele c1600 - 1700 in the Genealogical Office in Dublin [MS 161, p 111]: a pedigree of the Hays of Slade, Co. Wexford (1772) is also in the Genealogical Office, Dublin [ MS 87, pp 127-134] Regards, Celestine Rafferty

My g-g-grandfather was James SINNOTT - born 1809, Co. Wexford. He married Catherine KINSELLA - born 1813, Co. Wexford. They immigrated to Canada in 1843 and settled in Ottawa, Ontario where they remained for the rest of their lives. They had 6 children: 1. Patrick - b. 1843 - married Ellen O'Neill and they settled in Duluth 2. John - b. 1845 - married Elizabeth Travers and they remained in Ottawa 3. James - b. 1847 - d. 1851 4. Thomas - b. 1849 - married Katherine Murphy and they settled in Duluth 5. James - b. 1851 - married Mary Murphy and they settled in Duluth 6. Martin - b. 1859 - married Elizabeth Behan and they remained in Ottawa. Martin is my great-grandfather. I have most of the family information after their arrival in Canada but I can't find out anything about them while they were still in Ireland. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Gayle Sennott

Most people seem to like the fact that I'm doing this - so I'll continue. For some - they say it didn't come through - I've not put it as an attachment onto my mail but pasted it into the body of the mail. I know that the lines are breaking up and that some bits of the reference are being highlighted by my IE5....I think the highlighting doesn't go thru to everyone as it may be something to do with the qualities of IE5 and the fact that URL's come up highlighted. The mailer may be reading parts of teh reference as it would a web site URL. So - I've been asked to give the full title, ISBN, Author etc for each reference. The thing is - I could, but I won't - because for me to pick up all that information I have to log into my universities library and go through each reference individually - for that I would need to stay connected to the net for a *long* time, and I pay my telephone company per connection - by the 5 or 15 mins depending on whether I connect during the day or night. The point of these mails is this - if you have an internet connection and can browse - there are libraries out there all over the world which have on line catalogues. All you need to find references to books about or from Ireland is to have a few key words, you can access any libraries on line catalogue, use your key words to search and the library will tell you what it has with that word in it's title. From there, you can write down the information and go to your local library and ask them if they do interlibrary loans........and if they do, then fill out whatever forms, pay whatever they charge and you can borrow the book from the other library where-ever it is. If I continue with these lists - then you may spot key words you haven't thought of.......that to me would be the main importance now of continuing with the lists - because by the time I'm finished you'll all be experts in surfing university libraries <g> With University libraries, as researchers - this means that we can access books that are really old as books go (not ancient and priceless), we can get informatin that we need for research. Some books, we may get them as microfiches - but we get them. University libraries are probbaly the best, I think maybe that libraries will have arrangements with other libraries as to which ones exchange with who - I don't know the ins and outs of it all. perhaps public libraries operate on a different system than libraries associated with Universities......... The trick is - to be able to have the name of the book you want - to konw the author, to know it's ISBN if it has one, to be able to tell your library where in the country/world it can be found.......... hidden away on a shelf gathering dust because no one ever looks for it..... and you would like to read it so bad. You can go to the University College Dublin library like I said yesterday - follow the trail from the university home page www.ucd.ie to the library, access our on line catalogue.....key in any word you want and the catalogue will show you what we have............... I think- but I can't remember - that you can do this with University College Cork, Trinity College Dublin, University College Galway........ just change the ucd in the URL i give here to ucc or tcd or ucg and that should get you in to any of their home pages. and then once you begin to gather the information - the names of books - you can go back to the online libraries in your own country and see if any of them have any of these books. Our catalogue will not tel you anything about the book - it's content, it's quality - just that there is a book to be found in Ireland on this subject. >From there it's up to you to search the rest of the world - libraries, interlibrary loan, on line catalogues - with older books, it may be an idea to see if you can borrow it from somewhere - before you go and buy it, if you are mainly interested in seeing if it has a specific reference that you are looking for........... Jane

Hi, Listers, I'm interested in hearing from anyone researching the surname Lawler or Fitzpatrick from around the Gorey vicinity. Annie (or Mary Ann) Lawler was born in Gorey, the daughter of Michael Lawler/Lawlor and Mary Fitzpatrick. Have not been able to find any information on them. Mary Fitzpatrick had at least one brother and sister who went to St Charles/St Louis, MO. Sister became a nun in St Charles around 1860s. Annie settled eventually in Chicago and married Patrick McGuiness (McGinnis) in 1871 just before the Chicago fire which wiped out her marriage records. Looking forward to hearing from anyone related to these families...thanks in advance...Patricia Meyers, Worth, IL

There is one O'BRIEN on this list. Carol Magee This isn't my line but I did find these. All I have is John Pierce circa b 1845 married Margaret Sparrow. They had William, b. 1850 Ireland m Margaret Slatterly - lived just outside Rochester James, b/. 1841 m Mary Ann Hickey - settled in Rochester, Minn John, m Mary Riley - lived just outside Rochester Matthew, b 1862 m Winnifred Degnan - Lived in England before going to Rochester. Katherine, (Katy) m John Emmett - settled in Rochester Mary, m William Kienast Ellen b 1865 Wexford m Wexford Danny O'BRIEN - settled in Rochester, Minn and Elizabeth went to England and was lost in the shuffle.

Thanks Jane, for taking the time to list all these references for us. Carol Magee