I am wondering if anyone out there has the referance material (in this case a CD..) titled Passenger & Immigration Lists: Irish to America, 1846-1865. I have been advised that a HUGH CAWL is listed there and would like to see if the information corresponds to information that I have for my g-g-grandfather. I would appreciate it if someone would do a look-up for me. Thank you for you assistance, Kim Carey Butler sbbkcb@uswest.net

-----Original Message----- From: Linda Diamond [SMTP:ldiamond@total.net] Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 7:12 PM To: WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WEX] Would like your opinion please Has anyone had any experience with Gen.ie at www.ireland.com/ancestor They do a search for you after you enter whatever info you have on the ancestor you are searching, you are then given you a personal user ID, and after a few minutes you get a preview of a personalised report compiled for you. For my particular request, Suggest that you click on http:/tiara.ie/ and then to their Results of Irish Heritage Centers for an evaluation.Remem ber to review this like any statistic of small proportions,carefully. It is ,however all you have and I think it's safe to use because of the organization that has published it.

Jane First of all I commend you for your HUGE effort to compile and document where the records are: My personal experiences with Irish Parish records include the following: Co. Wexford....I visited the Yola Heritage Center in 1998 after setting up an appointment with a genealogist. I was greeted at the gate stating they were gone for the day, but if I left 50 pounds they would do a search for me. Since I had come a long way.... I left the 50 pounds. Nothing was found. Co. Wexford Library. Celestine Rafferty is to be commended as well as all the staff of the library for their holdings and helpfullness with genealogy research. I came across Brian Cantwells Memorial Inscriptions there. Co. Carlow.... 1999 sent me to Co. Carlow in search of the marriage of Patrick and Bridget Byrnes Kehoe. I visited St. Lazerian's Church, Leighlinbridge, Co Carlow, Ireland after discovering this was the parish of the marriage. This was found by the Co. Carlow Genealogy Research Group , they are personally overseeing the documentation of all Co. Carlow parish records into a computer data base. Training young girls with clerical skills helps to build the parish record index. Then You still have to find the church, bother the priest to look in the books ( only he can look - at ST. Lazerian's) and then plead for copies of what is found and pray the copy machine is working. I was very lucky that day. Jane I'll send you more KEHOE records that I have viewed.... But in the meantime :) MY KEHOE INFORMATION 1. WILLIAM (ANDREW) ABT 17771 KEHOE was born Abt. 1777. He married ANNE RYAN, daughter of PATRICK RYAN and DOLLY BOW. She was born Abt. 1777. Child of WILLIAM KEHOE and ANNE RYAN is: 2. i. PATRICK2 KEHOE, b. March 26, 1797, Tomard Co. Carlow Parrish: Tullowcreen, Barony: Idrone, Ireland; d. September 11, 1873, Our Lady of Mt. Carmel Charlotte Vermont. Generation No. 2 2. PATRICK2 KEHOE (WILLIAM (ANDREW) ABT 17771) was born March 26, 1797 in Tomard Co. Carlow Parrish: Tullowcreen, Barony: Idrone, Ireland, and died September 11, 1873 in Our Lady of Mt. Carmel Charlotte Vermont. He married BRIDGET BYRNE November 22, 1820 in St. Lazerian's Church, Leighlinbridge, Co Carlow, Ireland1, daughter of MICHAEL BYRNE and MARGARET KEALEY. She was born June 21, 1798 in Co. Carlow Ireland, and died May 16, 1880 in Charlotte Vermont. FAMILY RESEARCH:KEHOE,LOW,SCOTT,ELDER and more Family website - http://www.geocities.com/drk4779 Celtic Women International - http://www.celticwomen.org Walworth County Historical Society - http://www.geocities.com/walcohistory

Still looking for the family of RICHARD BURNEY (BIRNEY)b 1799 , From County Wexford, Ireland, emigrated 1848. In US and New York census 1860, 1965, 1875, 1892 in Waterford, Saratoga County, New York. Wife Catharine b1810, Sons: Bernard (Bennett) b1832, Michael b. 1837 and Partick b. 1841; Daughters: Mary, b. 1830, Johanna 1843, Anne b.1834, Elizabeth b1848 All kids born in Ireland. Children of Michael may have included Arthur Burney, Mary and Richard. Children of Patrick may have included Nellie. Any help appreciated. Slainte, Tim

I would be interested to discover if there are any subscribers who are interested in the descendants of the family of Barlow originating in County Wexford, Ireland, in particular descendants of 1. MATTHEW BARLOW, Ballytarsna, Oulart, m. CATHERINE WARREN b.(c) 1764;d.26 SEP1821 (aged 57). Children included 1.1 JOHN BARLOW, Courtlough, Oulart, who m. 22 FEB1841 MARY SINNOTT, Parish of Blackwater and had at least one son, MATTHEW BARLOW, b. 21 JAN1842. 1.2 MATTHEW BARLOW, b,17.12.1805, who m. MARGARET DUNNE b. 10DEC1803. In 1840 a Mr Marshall brought Matthew and Margaret Barlow and five children, to Australia as 'Bounty Immigrants' on board the 'Royal Consort, he to work as a farm worker and she to work as a cook. Their children were MATTHEW b.1825; JOHN b, 1827; THOMAS b.1829; Catherine b. 1832; Mary (2) b. 1834 ( A previous Mary b. 1824 d. 23Aug1832 aged 8 and is buried in Glenbrien Cemetery. JOHN BARLOW m. 25JUL1854 ELIZA HUGHES b.1839; d. 15SEP1880, aged 51 and had a family which included architect, JOHN BEDE BARLOW. THOMAS BARLOW m. MARY ANN SHAW b. (c) 1824; d. 21JUL1920, aged 96 and also had a family. I have no record of the marriages of MATTHEW, CATHERINE or MARY. 1.3 MARY BARLOW m. GARRET SINNOTT : their children were ROBERT SINNOTT b.25APR1852; MARY SINNOTT b. 12JUL1854 and PIERCE SINNOTT b. 29JUL 1856. 1.4 ELIZABETH BARLOW m. SIMON SUTTON: their children were MARY MATILDA SUTTON b. 21OCT1855; ELIZABETH SUTTON b. 05APR1857 and ELEANOR SUTTON b. 27AUG1859. 2. KENNEDY BARLOW, Ballyrannel, Glenbrien, Enniscorthy. b.(c)1757;d.23JAN1845 (aged 88); m.ELIZABETH (not known); b. (c) 1759; d. 11SEP1844 (85). 2.1 JOHN BARLOW, b. (c) 1797; d.02JUL1845 (48); m.(1) [ Grocer,Wine & Spirit Merchant, Townsend street, Dublin], m. Mary Brennan, Hoeyfield, Delgany, Co. Wicklow, b. 06OCT1792, d. 26JAN1833. m. (2) MARY CORCORAN, Townsend Street, Dublin, b. (c) 1811; d.06AUG1864 (53). JOHN BARLOW had nine children, of whom four "died young" ( NICHOLAS, ARTHUR, CATHERINE and KATE MARY) He was survived by five children, JOHN; Rev. MARTIN BARLOW, who was first RC Parish Priest of the Parish of St Kevin, Harrington Street, Dublin. He died 08APR1870, aged 47; Rev. NICHOLAS BARLOW, member of the Congreg- ation of Missionaries (C.M.); ELIZABETH and MARY. 2.2 THOMAS BARLOW b.(c) 1823; d. 25NOV.1890 (87) who m. BRIDGET LAMBERT (Ballyrannel), b. 17FEB1818; d. 19MAR1896(78). [ I will post details of the family of THOMAS & BRIDGET, in Wexford and Australia at a future time] 2.3 ARTHUR BARLOW b.(c) 1805; d. Ballycarney, Ferns, 30DEC1885 (80); m. ELLEN (surname not known) b. (c) 1839; d. 28APR1874 (45). 2.4 KENNEDY BARLOW m. MARGARET KEHOE; children included KENNEDY b.30MAY1833; MARY b.20AUG1836; NICHOLAS b. 14JUL1840. I hope that the above information will strike a chord with some subscribers/listers and may lead to the provision to me and my wife Mary, who is a descendant of KENNEDY BARLOW (1757-1845) through THOMAS BARLOW (1803-1890) of some additional data. MICHAEL O.HANRAHAN.

Does anyone have any information about about the Parslow family who appeared to be resident in the area of Ferns, County Wexford sometime around 1775/1785. Specifically a William Parslow's parents. William appears to have joined the army 2nd Battalion of the 44th regiment of foot. He married a Miss Elizabeth Croad of Preston cum Sutton Poyntz, Dorset, in the Guersnsey Town Church (St Peter Port) 15 Feb 1806. Did not attend Traffalgar, and there appears to be no deaths recorded on Guernsey of anyone of these names. I believe he may have returned to Ferns after his army medical discharge as he appears to resurface there as a farmer in Ballyhaddock, Parish of Ferns, Barony of Gorey. His parents might be Henry Parslow and Elizabeth Dowse, but I have no proof. Thanks to anyone who can help. Bob.

Has anyone had any experience with Gen.ie at www.ireland.com/ancestor They do a search for you after you enter whatever info you have on the ancestor you are searching, you are then given you a personal user ID, and after a few minutes you get a preview of a personalised report compiled for you. For my particular request, I got 2 family histories (book format), 4 surname variants, 1 distribution of births in 1890 (by province, including surname variants), 83 church records, 21 census records, 281 graveyards & transcripts, 3 estate records, 21 local histories, 2 journals (local history) and a few others... I am reluctant to pay close to $50 Canadian (US$25) before viewing any of this information. Would like to hear from anyone who has dealt with this organisation. Thanks. Linda

Would you hate me if I said yes.......there are only a few dioceses for which you need written permission to view their records - the rest arew open to the public, some on film in LDS libraries....and more here. There are always fights whenever the subject is brought up - people saying how the Irish are holding oin to their records.....but there are records in LDS libraries - not as many as we have admittedly, there are records published in journals , some in books, some have posted records on the web. A subject which every listowner handles with kid gloves....... Where are you searching? Jane :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: <Westmilli@aol.com> To: <jlyons1@iol.ie>; <Wexford-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [WEX] Parish records - an Appeal/Request > I'm confused. Have I been laboring all these years under the delusion that > Church Parish records could only be gotten from the National Library of > Ireland (and only of Dioceses with Bishop's approval) or at the Churches > themselves? Milli > > Researching Brennan, Murphy, Leary, Kehough (Kehoe, etc.), Thornton > >

No, I don't hate you. I just feel stupid, is all. All of my ancestors so far have been in the Ballyboggan, Castlebridge, Crossabeg, Artramon area -- in Tikillen Parish Co. Wexford. Others have been buried in Tikillen Cemetery. So, I assume the Kehoes', or more Brennans would have been around there, but I've learned not to assume. Right now I'm looking for my ggrandfather's (Mogue Murphy) parents. He was born in Artramon, married in Castlebridge, and I know he died after 1889, my grandparents' wedding date, but I don't know where or when, exactly. Thanks Milli

I'm confused. Have I been laboring all these years under the delusion that Church Parish records could only be gotten from the National Library of Ireland (and only of Dioceses with Bishop's approval) or at the Churches themselves? Milli Researching Brennan, Murphy, Leary, Kehough (Kehoe, etc.), Thornton

This mail began life as a reply to someone on one newsgroup, but it became something else as some of my posts do. I have removed the original mail to the newsgroup and I am sending this out to every list I am subscribed to. I have a request to make of people in the newsgroups and that is in the following paragraph. I made a commitment before Christmas and I know that it will be easier to keep if those of you who search help me. My reasons for asking this are in the body of the reply. I would very much appreciate it if anybody who has ever viewed any LDS parish record films for any county would let me know (if they remember) the number of the film, the parish they looked at, the Diocese the parish was in, whether the record was in Latin or English, the condition of the film re ink fading, writing, the information in that parish record....only the names of parents, bride, groom, baby - whatever...and whether or not any addresses were put in.....all these vary from one record to the next, depending on the Priest/Vicar who kept the record. Thanks Jane My reply to the newsgroup: - ------------------------------------- Helen & all, I think this has been dealt with by someone else - the fact that the registers do exist. I can't right now even remember which registers were being discussed and I think that I made a post on whicever ones they were. Very 'thoughtful' today I am :-) If I remember correctly, when I checked it, one type of record existed from 1770 and another began in 1828, and it may have been that the heritage centre only has the type that exists from 1828. I do know that I have seen instances where this is the case...for other parishes - records of one type in existance and held by the National Library but not copied by the heritage centre who have the later records. The reason I am replying to this post now - is that anyone who knows me and my posts through various lists, knows that parish records are a particular bee in my bonnet and I generally tend to 'react' when I see any post being made re parish records and people 'giving out' so to speak about how the Irish hold on to their records and anyone searching for information has a right to access those records. That is not the case in your post here - but I am saying this for the benefit of any who may be new on this list and may never have seen a post of mine or anyone elses on this topic. I 'react' and strongly, because quite often I see references to records which I know are in existance, I react because I know that records 'turn up' so to speak in the strangest of places, because while many parish records were destroyed during the Civil War in 1922 not all were. I also react because I know that so many people never were registered in the first place in any church. Anyway.....over the years, I have tried on various lists asking people if they would let me know what records they had viewed, the condition of those records and the LDS numbers. There are many publications which list records in existance, not all agree with what is there and no publication ever mentions the condition of these records - how battered they may be. how poor the script, the ink fading - whatever. Whether they are in Latin or English. I put my foot in it before Christmas in a post to the Ireland-L when I asked something along the lines of "Do ye know how long it would take, or have any idea of the amount of work I would have to put in to try and bring it all together - to show you that most records are there - somewhere - accessible to people without them having to trot off to the local church in Ireland" and then I decided I would take a shot at it. A putting together of known (currently) parish records - what the LDS have, what is held in the PRONI in Belfast, what is held in the Nat Lib in Dublin, the Nat Archives in Dublin, the Representative Church Library in Dublin, and published in whatever journals that I know of. No such compilation will ever be complete. It can only ever be thought of as current - today, because things change so often. I have this morning received a post from someone I know through another list - on which I once asked people to let me know about parish records when they see them. I had also made a post to that list re some records I know of in Ireland and this person was replying to both posts saying pretty much Jane some of the records you mentioned are not held by the LDS and here are the numbers of these other records and what I found re their condition. I believe that if people worked together, then some sense can be made of the Irish Parish record situation. I may end up eating some of my words when I am finished because I do see that for a lot of the northern Ireland records they are held locally - but in the main records which are post 1890 and probably are not considered worth filming. Personally, I only ever view records in which I have an interest, and while the counties I am interested in are well spread out, there are a good few. being interested only in particular parishes does not stop me noticing what is also there for other parishes, not necessarily the condition but just that it's there. It does not stop me wondering what other parishes may be hiding in the records for Parish A......because I know that there was also another parish in that locality and the people could walk to either church and that Parish A just happened to be the head of a Union in that area. This is long - my apologies......I just take off on this topic. I am not interested in every parish in ireland, I am not even interested in every county in ireland. Parish records were never my research focus....phonetics and surname distribution are. However, I happen to be one of the most vocal Parish record/Priest/Vicar defenders in this country or on any newsgroup pertaining to Irish genealogical research to which I am subscribed. I have made a commitment re trying to sort this out a bit. I have begun. The look up offers I made to various lists before Christmas did put a halt to my gallop because there was so much else I had intended working on over Christmas. I can do so much by myself - bring what I have in literature sources together. Make my own comments on any records I have looked at.......but as I say I'm not interested in everywhere. The Rootsweb catalogue of data held by the LDS centres changed its format before Christmas. It had been such that if one went in then one could simply by keying in the name of a county check out what was held for that county on all topics. I had coverered a few counties. I have seen county pages which list LDS references for parish records but I feel that some of these lists may be old, there may be more information there than the county page says. I don't kow for sure. When I connect to the Internet - I pay telephone charges per 5 minutes during the day and 15 outside work hours. Right now, I find myself connecting to try and track down references for records which I have no need for and will never access, and even if I needed them - then I can do it here in Dublin if they exist. I'm not whinging about that fact, just stating it. I said I would try to do something and I will. I just thought that if I once again asked people if they would let me know what records they have looked at, the LDS numbers and their comments on the condition of those records - I might, this time get more than one or two responses. This would, in effect, help me produce some results quicker, what i come up with will me more thorough. It may help some of you find out about records and their existance much quicker than in the past. It may be that what goes round comes round - those of you who respond to this mail may find that you want to know something about another county in the future, and may find that someone else gave me the same kind of information on the parish you now want to look at. I don't know - an appeal to the newsgroups seems to be worth a shot. I don't honestly expect an overwhelming response, being a cynic, and having tried this in the past....... but - you never know - the new Millennium is almost upon us. Jane :-)

Posting again. EDWARD SINNET was the son of WILLIAM (probably SINNOTT) and JANE O'NEIL from Wexford Co. - First record is a 1777 census in Perce, Quebec, he is then single, has 2 boats & 8 servants. In 1780 he married Josette Robert and settled the village of Anse-au-Griffon, Quebec, had 9 children. Don't know his date of birth or death (but Josette remarried in 1827), or how and when he came to Canada. Many people from Wexford went to Newfoundland to fish in those days and there are records of Sinnotts there around 1750. Does anyone in Newfoundland or anywhere else have any other info we can share? Thanks. Linda Sinnett

Hi Celestine, Thank you eversomuch for the STAFFORD memorial inscriptions from Rathangan and for clarifying the townland & parish information. I don't know if there are connections for me here but it may give me enough to try the Wexford Heritage Center again. Would you take this a step further for me? Is Rathangan a townland as is Rathmacknee? Is Rathangan in Piercestown parish? Does St. Martin's RC church serve either or both Rathmacknee and Rath- angen? Finally does Rathmacknee have a graveyard? If so, then it probably would be included in Brian Cantwell's work and even more STAFFORDs would be known. Again, thank you very much and hope to hear from you. Happy New Year Harry I. Stafford

I am searching for information on CHRISTOPHER and PATRICK JOSEPH CLEAR (different documents have various spelling, such as CLEAR,CLAER, CLAIR and CLARE). The two immigrated from County Wexford to Toronto, Canada in approximately 1847 and later moved to Lucan, Canada and then to Palo Alto County, Iowa in 1873. CHRISTOPHER was born June 9, 1839 or 1840 and died in 1928 in Emmetsburg, Iowa and PATRICK JOSEPH was born March 17, 1820. We believe the parents were PATRICK and MARY but we have no way of knowing if they immigrated also. When PATRICK died in 1904 at 84 years, his obituary listed a brother THOMAS CLARE still living in Ireland. If anyone has any information regarding this family, or access to early census records from County Wexford, it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, G.R. WILCOX grwilcox@rconnect.com

John Alfred WEEKS is believed to have been born in in Wexford, Ireland about 1865 - 70. He married Olive Mabel ROLF and together they moved to Benenden, near Cranbrook in KENT where a number (perhaps all) of their children were born. My wife's grandfather, Walter Charles WEEKS b. 1895 in Benenden was one of these offspring. Can anyone with access to Census for the period 1851 on for WEXFORD, please check for details of John Alfred WEEKS and Olive Mabel ROLF Thanks Barry Huguenin Wantirna Vic 3152 Australia

I am seeking information on HUGH CAWL (possibly the name was changed from MC CAWLEY or MC CAULEY after the family immigrated from Taghmon, County Wexford to the USA in approx. 1854 ). Hugh (born ? and died 12 Dec.1905 in NYC) was married to Elizabeth Chapman and had two sons James and William. He was married second to Mary Elizabeth Hudson and had Henrietta, Lizzie, Grace, Marry Emma, Robert Cone, Charles, and Clarence. Hugh had a sister, Catherine Cone, who lived with the family in Brooklyn,NY and who was listed on the 1880 census as being 68 years old. Hugh's father is said to be James Cawl and his mother was Penelope (Stevens) Cawl. Hugh was one of at least five children with Catherine, William, Henry, and Bessy being the remaining siblings that I know of. If anyone has information regarding this family, I would appreciate hearing from you. Thank you, K.C.Butler sbbkcb@uswest.net

Re: Piercestown Piercestown is the name of a Roman Catholic parish; Murrintown is its curacy; Rathmacknee is a townland within the R.C. parish. I only know this because my mother came from the parish of Piercestown and I was married there myself!! Re: Staffords in Rathangan graveyard According to Brian Cantwell's Memorials of the Dead, the following Stafford memorial is in Rathangan: STAFFORD A large memorial with inscriptions on three sides East, upper panel: In loving memory/ of John Stafford/ of Baldwinstown/ who died Feb 27 1878/ aged 80 years also his/ wife Ellen Stafford/ nee Byrne who died May 8 1887 aged 70 years/ also his son Nicholas/ who died July 9 1935/ aged 83 years/ erected by their son Nicholas Stafford. East, lower panel: And his wife Anastasia M. stafford/ died 19 December 1942/ aged 77 years. NORTH: Also his brother/ William who died/ June 14 1832/ aged 30 years his sister/ Catherine died Aug/ 10 1833 aged 22 years/ his father Nicholas/ died January 5 1834/ aged 78 years his sister/ Alice died March 20 / 1837 aged 25 years his/ brother Nicholas died/ June 4 1841 aged 35 years/ his mother Ellen died/ Dec 31 1849 aged 90 years/ his daughter Mary Ellen/ died March 4 1850/ aged 7 years and his son/ John who died young. SOUTH: Also his daughter/ Ann Dromgoole/ nee Stafford/ who died/ October 11th 1893/ aged 44 years/ also his son/ Laurence Stafford/ who died October 13th / 1902 aged 46 years/ also Edmund Stafford/ who died Nov 1 1900/ aged 47 years

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emmmm.....Would you think that Berney might fit the bill? None of the first names you mention here.....and the records I've seen are a bit later in the day than your dates....but ther was a daniel and a John in Monaseed about 1837.....and then the name was still there in the mid 1900's..... Course.....you're alternative could be Byrne and the way it could have been pronounced.....or Birney - Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: Temple Theatre <temple@interpath.com> To: <WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 5:49 PM Subject: [WEX] One more try > Looking for any traces of the family of RICHARD BURNEY, he born c 1799 > and his family born 1820-1848. Bernard, Anna, Johann, Elizabeth. > Any help appreiciated. > Slainte, > Tim

Looking for any traces of the family of RICHARD BURNEY, he born c 1799 and his family born 1820-1848. Bernard, Anna, Johann, Elizabeth. Any help appreiciated. Slainte, Tim