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    1. Re: [WEX] Gananoque/Lansdowne
    2. Ellen
    3. After I hit the send key, I did think that I didn't communicate what I meant to say and had a glimmer I'd sounded offensive. I loved northern NY, the Thousand Islands, and my distant cousins in the G/L area. It is beautiful country. There is NOT a lot of industry and that isn't a criticism. I am still puzzled about how people in a rural area in Ireland in 1816 heard about a rural area in any other location, even in Ireland, let alone across the ocean. It was a thoughtless communication written when I was tired. It's not fair to globally insult Americans, either, because I made a thoughtless comment. I don't think a lot of *my* culture is superior. I wish my ancestors had remained farmers and still lived in G/L. It's a hell of a lot prettier than where I live. And, there's much about Canadian government and services I find superior to ours. So, my deep apologies for having written offensively. It was truly unintended. Anyone who has ever been to the Thousand Islands, on either side of the river, knows how incredibly beautiful the area is. But, how did someone in 1816 Clone, Wexford, know about it? That was my question however ill put. Sincere apologies.....Ellen Rudd ----- Original Message ----- From: M Hankins <mandf.hankins@sympatico.ca> To: Ellen <ellenrudd@ameritech.net> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 1:40 PM Subject: RE: [WEX] Gananoque/Lansdowne > Dear Ellen, > I don't know whether you realize how incredibly patronizing your remarks are > to the people who still live in this area. I know Americans think what they > have is superior - and are not shy about saying so - but surely to insult > your ancestors and the present inhabitants of the area - worldwide yet!- is > going a bit far. > Adele > > > > < Why did > people leave Wexford and go to Gananoque? If you've ever been there, even > in the late 20th century, there's just not a whole lot there. It's very > rural; farm country. Pretty. Isolated. It's main claim to fame is a lot > of tour boats leave from there for trips around the Thousand Islands, but I > don't think that was a draw in 1816. > > Ellen Rudd > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Greg Finnegan <finnegan@fas.harvard.edu> > To: <WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 3:18 PM > Subject: [WEX] Musgrave Source & Webster history > > > > Re those seeking Musgrave--the modern reprint was from a small > > (kitchen-table?) press in Indiana USA, so possibly outside even > > Amazon.com's massive list. The book is listed for sale by a Canadian > > genealogy book/etc vendor: > > > > http://globalgenealogy.com/ireland.htm > > > > SIR RICHARD MUSGRAVE'S MEMOIRS OF THE IRISH REBELLION OF 1798 - Most > > important contemporary published source on the insurrection led by the > > United Irishman. More information > > > > CAT #239001 ..........$79.99 Canadian Dollars > > > > The book IS *invaluable*, but is highly biased; the modern reprint has a > > good introduction explaining that, as well as having a much more complete > > index than the original editions. But while the book details massive > > numbers of Wexford Protestant casualties, the main list of same (as > > distinct from incidents discussed in the text itself) is the list of those > > claiming compensation. So for those of us descended from Robert WEBSTER, > > hoisted on pikes and tossed from the Enniscorthy bridge--that incident > > isn't discussed. The burning of Robert's house (and his brother's) IS > > mentioned--but he doesn't show up in the victim roster except that his > > widow's need for support is listed--but he isn't named even there, as the > > focus was naming those compensated, who were necessarily survivors. > > > > The Enniscorthy Bridge incident *IS* discussed on pp. 138-139 of Glenn J. > > LOCKWOOD, THE REAR OF LEEDS & LANSDOWNE: THE MAKING OF COMMUNITY ON THE > > GANANOQUE RIVER FRONTIER, 1796-1996, published in 1996 by the Corporation > > of the Township of the Rear of Leeds and Lansdowne, PO Box 160, Lyndhurst, > > ON. Lockwood takes the several paragraphs he quotes from "anonymous, > > WEBSTER [family history] (gestetnered manuscript and family tree, n.d.)" > > loaned to him. The same text, word for word, is also found on pp. 21-22 > of > > THE TEN BROTHERS: A GENEALOGY OF THE LEECH FAMILY TOGETHER WITH A SHORT > > BIOGRAPHY OF THE 10 BROTHERS, PUBLISHED 1951--tho' the preface is signed > J. > > Hillyard LEECH, KC, Winnipeg MN, March 8th 1929. The 10 brothers in > > question, developers of Gorrie (sic) Ontario in the 1850's-70's, were sons > > of Barbara WEBSTER, dau. of the Robert killed on the bridge. > > > > Greg Finnegan > > Seeking Palatine POOLEs (Ram estates, Gorey), JOHNSTON (exact location in > > N. WEX unknown), LEECH, and WEBSTER (Garrybrit.) > > > > Gregory A. Finnegan, PhD > > Associate Librarian for Public Services > > and Head of Reference > > Tozzer Library > > Harvard University > > 21 Divinity Avenue > > Cambridge MA 02138-2089 > > 617-495-2253 fax 617-496-2741 > > gregory_finnegan@harvard.edu > > > > "...have mercy on us all --Presbyterians and Pagans alike -- for we are > all > > somehow dreadfully cracked about the head, and sadly need mending." > > MOBY-DICK, chapter 17. > > > > > > > > ______________________________ >

    02/28/2000 11:16:21
    1. RE: [WEX] Gananoque/Lansdowne
    2. Hi all. Strangely enough, my dad and I were talking about the Wexford/Newfoundland connection this weekend - and I hadn't seen the list yet. Apparently, one of the reasons there is a connection, not just with Wexford, but also with Waterford and the southern parts of Tipperary and Kilkenny, is that the English fishing trawlers would dock in Waterford for supplies and would take on hands there. The boats were a great source of employment, and eventually, some of the fishermen began to settle in Newfoundland. This would have been about 200 years ago when the coast of Newfoundland was a major fishing ground. I would imagine that some of the men used the trawlers as an excuse to get to the new world to improve their prospects, and if they were of an agricultural bent, may have moved inland to more crop-friendly regions. However, that last is strictly a surmise on my part! Anyway, that's one possibility for the connection. Edel -----Original Message----- From: Westmilli@aol.com [mailto:Westmilli@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2000 12:29 PM To: WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WEX] Gananoque/Lansdowne Perhaps many of us, if not all, have asked that question. My grandparents left beautiful Ballyboggan/Castlebridge for Baltimore City, Md. in 1889, 50 years after the famine. He and one brother emigrated, while one other brother and their sisters stayed, and my cousins there, as well as others, say that CO. Wexford was not as affected by the famine, anyhow. My cousin suggests that since his father got the house, there was no place else to go. But I do not understand that logic, or culture, as it were. Milli ______________________________

    02/28/2000 09:49:49
    1. Re: [WEX] Gananoque/Lansdowne
    2. Ellen, Perhaps the Wexford men were sailors or fishermen and traveled up the St. Lawrence River. Many of those boats put out to sea for months on end. Just a thought. Joan in New Jersey

    02/28/2000 07:51:09
    1. Re: [WEX] Gananoque/Lansdowne
    2. John Connors
    3. Great Question, one which I've asked myself about my ancestors who also emigrated from County Wexford in 1816 for a small outport in Newfoundland. After ready a little about Ireland and in particular County Wexford, I've come to the conclusion that maybe the question needs to asked in perspective of the conditions in Ireland during this period. I suspect that anything had to be a great impovement for most who emigrated. Regards John Connors ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ellen" <ellenrudd@ameritech.net> To: <WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: February 27, 2000 5:30 AM Subject: [WEX] Gananoque/Lansdowne > Good Heavens! This is the first time I've seen anything on the Wexford list > that could remotely tie in to my ancestor, Anthony Rudd, who left Clone, > Wexford, in 1816, with a few others to settle in Lansdowne/Gananoque, > Ontario. I used to live over the St. Lawrence River (in NY) from Gananoque > and visited several times, meeting ancient distant cousins. I always > wondered why my ancestor picked such a remote place to go to. The > settlement was mostly Irish and some Scots. My great grandmother was of > Scots ancestry. The whole message left me in a muddle since one of my > direct lines on my MOTHER's side is Robert Lockwood, of Winthrop's Fleet > fame. What's a Lockwood doing writing a book about people who settled where > my father's family settled? And, I'm also in Indiana, USA.... Why did > people leave Wexford and go to Gananoque? If you've ever been there, even > in the late 20th century, there's just not a whole lot there. It's very > rural; farm country. Pretty. Isolated. It's main claim to fame is a lot > of tour boats leave from there for trips around the Thousand Islands, but I > don't think that was a draw in 1816. If anyone has the book, are there any > Rudds involved? > > Ellen Rudd > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Greg Finnegan <finnegan@fas.harvard.edu> > To: <WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 3:18 PM > Subject: [WEX] Musgrave Source & Webster history > > > > Re those seeking Musgrave--the modern reprint was from a small > > (kitchen-table?) press in Indiana USA, so possibly outside even > > Amazon.com's massive list. The book is listed for sale by a Canadian > > genealogy book/etc vendor: > > > > http://globalgenealogy.com/ireland.htm > > > > SIR RICHARD MUSGRAVE'S MEMOIRS OF THE IRISH REBELLION OF 1798 - Most > > important contemporary published source on the insurrection led by the > > United Irishman. More information > > > > CAT #239001 ..........$79.99 Canadian Dollars > > > > The book IS *invaluable*, but is highly biased; the modern reprint has a > > good introduction explaining that, as well as having a much more complete > > index than the original editions. But while the book details massive > > numbers of Wexford Protestant casualties, the main list of same (as > > distinct from incidents discussed in the text itself) is the list of those > > claiming compensation. So for those of us descended from Robert WEBSTER, > > hoisted on pikes and tossed from the Enniscorthy bridge--that incident > > isn't discussed. The burning of Robert's house (and his brother's) IS > > mentioned--but he doesn't show up in the victim roster except that his > > widow's need for support is listed--but he isn't named even there, as the > > focus was naming those compensated, who were necessarily survivors. > > > > The Enniscorthy Bridge incident *IS* discussed on pp. 138-139 of Glenn J. > > LOCKWOOD, THE REAR OF LEEDS & LANSDOWNE: THE MAKING OF COMMUNITY ON THE > > GANANOQUE RIVER FRONTIER, 1796-1996, published in 1996 by the Corporation > > of the Township of the Rear of Leeds and Lansdowne, PO Box 160, Lyndhurst, > > ON. Lockwood takes the several paragraphs he quotes from "anonymous, > > WEBSTER [family history] (gestetnered manuscript and family tree, n.d.)" > > loaned to him. The same text, word for word, is also found on pp. 21-22 > of > > THE TEN BROTHERS: A GENEALOGY OF THE LEECH FAMILY TOGETHER WITH A SHORT > > BIOGRAPHY OF THE 10 BROTHERS, PUBLISHED 1951--tho' the preface is signed > J. > > Hillyard LEECH, KC, Winnipeg MN, March 8th 1929. The 10 brothers in > > question, developers of Gorrie (sic) Ontario in the 1850's-70's, were sons > > of Barbara WEBSTER, dau. of the Robert killed on the bridge. > > > > Greg Finnegan > > Seeking Palatine POOLEs (Ram estates, Gorey), JOHNSTON (exact location in > > N. WEX unknown), LEECH, and WEBSTER (Garrybrit.) > > > > Gregory A. Finnegan, PhD > > Associate Librarian for Public Services > > and Head of Reference > > Tozzer Library > > Harvard University > > 21 Divinity Avenue > > Cambridge MA 02138-2089 > > 617-495-2253 fax 617-496-2741 > > gregory_finnegan@harvard.edu > > > > "...have mercy on us all --Presbyterians and Pagans alike -- for we are > all > > somehow dreadfully cracked about the head, and sadly need mending." > > MOBY-DICK, chapter 17. > > > > > > > >

    02/27/2000 07:14:17
    1. [WEX] Doyle Family
    2. Dann-Online
    3. I am looking for info on William H. Doyle born Jan 8, 1855....married to Elizabeth Gallagher ..who was born Nov. 4, 1853. They were possibly born in county Wexford....or possibly in the US. Some records say that their parents (and I do not know their names) came over in 1840. William and Elizabeth had a large family all born in the USA--Mamie (born 1875), Lizzie (born 1877), Tessie (born 1879), Hugh (born 1882), Patrick (born 1884), James (born 1892), William O. (born 1886) and twins Frank and Sadie (born 1889). They settled in Bensen, Minnesota. I would love some info on the Ireland end---the name of their parents---the town in Wexford they were from--the name of the ship they came over on----more about Elizabeth Gallagher's family. Any info would be wonderful ! Thanks so much !! Joan

    02/27/2000 02:52:25
    1. [WEX] Barry Family
    2. James Cox
    3. I am a new member and just starting research on my Mother's side of the family. Her father is James Barry who died in an accident in Boston, Massachusetts at the age of 56yrs. He, and supposedly twin brother Thomas, were supposed to be from County Wexford. They would be born about 1877. Both married Coughlins (Mary and Annie) who are supposed to be from Tipperary. I believe they got married in Boston. All of them should have been employed by the CIA. They were very good at keeping secrets about their families. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

    02/27/2000 02:36:46
    1. [WEX] Gananoque/Lansdowne
    2. Ellen
    3. Good Heavens! This is the first time I've seen anything on the Wexford list that could remotely tie in to my ancestor, Anthony Rudd, who left Clone, Wexford, in 1816, with a few others to settle in Lansdowne/Gananoque, Ontario. I used to live over the St. Lawrence River (in NY) from Gananoque and visited several times, meeting ancient distant cousins. I always wondered why my ancestor picked such a remote place to go to. The settlement was mostly Irish and some Scots. My great grandmother was of Scots ancestry. The whole message left me in a muddle since one of my direct lines on my MOTHER's side is Robert Lockwood, of Winthrop's Fleet fame. What's a Lockwood doing writing a book about people who settled where my father's family settled? And, I'm also in Indiana, USA.... Why did people leave Wexford and go to Gananoque? If you've ever been there, even in the late 20th century, there's just not a whole lot there. It's very rural; farm country. Pretty. Isolated. It's main claim to fame is a lot of tour boats leave from there for trips around the Thousand Islands, but I don't think that was a draw in 1816. If anyone has the book, are there any Rudds involved? Ellen Rudd ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Finnegan <finnegan@fas.harvard.edu> To: <WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 3:18 PM Subject: [WEX] Musgrave Source & Webster history > Re those seeking Musgrave--the modern reprint was from a small > (kitchen-table?) press in Indiana USA, so possibly outside even > Amazon.com's massive list. The book is listed for sale by a Canadian > genealogy book/etc vendor: > > http://globalgenealogy.com/ireland.htm > > SIR RICHARD MUSGRAVE'S MEMOIRS OF THE IRISH REBELLION OF 1798 - Most > important contemporary published source on the insurrection led by the > United Irishman. More information > > CAT #239001 ..........$79.99 Canadian Dollars > > The book IS *invaluable*, but is highly biased; the modern reprint has a > good introduction explaining that, as well as having a much more complete > index than the original editions. But while the book details massive > numbers of Wexford Protestant casualties, the main list of same (as > distinct from incidents discussed in the text itself) is the list of those > claiming compensation. So for those of us descended from Robert WEBSTER, > hoisted on pikes and tossed from the Enniscorthy bridge--that incident > isn't discussed. The burning of Robert's house (and his brother's) IS > mentioned--but he doesn't show up in the victim roster except that his > widow's need for support is listed--but he isn't named even there, as the > focus was naming those compensated, who were necessarily survivors. > > The Enniscorthy Bridge incident *IS* discussed on pp. 138-139 of Glenn J. > LOCKWOOD, THE REAR OF LEEDS & LANSDOWNE: THE MAKING OF COMMUNITY ON THE > GANANOQUE RIVER FRONTIER, 1796-1996, published in 1996 by the Corporation > of the Township of the Rear of Leeds and Lansdowne, PO Box 160, Lyndhurst, > ON. Lockwood takes the several paragraphs he quotes from "anonymous, > WEBSTER [family history] (gestetnered manuscript and family tree, n.d.)" > loaned to him. The same text, word for word, is also found on pp. 21-22 of > THE TEN BROTHERS: A GENEALOGY OF THE LEECH FAMILY TOGETHER WITH A SHORT > BIOGRAPHY OF THE 10 BROTHERS, PUBLISHED 1951--tho' the preface is signed J. > Hillyard LEECH, KC, Winnipeg MN, March 8th 1929. The 10 brothers in > question, developers of Gorrie (sic) Ontario in the 1850's-70's, were sons > of Barbara WEBSTER, dau. of the Robert killed on the bridge. > > Greg Finnegan > Seeking Palatine POOLEs (Ram estates, Gorey), JOHNSTON (exact location in > N. WEX unknown), LEECH, and WEBSTER (Garrybrit.) > > Gregory A. Finnegan, PhD > Associate Librarian for Public Services > and Head of Reference > Tozzer Library > Harvard University > 21 Divinity Avenue > Cambridge MA 02138-2089 > 617-495-2253 fax 617-496-2741 > gregory_finnegan@harvard.edu > > "...have mercy on us all --Presbyterians and Pagans alike -- for we are all > somehow dreadfully cracked about the head, and sadly need mending." > MOBY-DICK, chapter 17. > > >

    02/27/2000 08:30:44
    1. Re: [WEX] Gananoque/Lansdowne
    2. Perhaps many of us, if not all, have asked that question. My grandparents left beautiful Ballyboggan/Castlebridge for Baltimore City, Md. in 1889, 50 years after the famine. He and one brother emigrated, while one other brother and their sisters stayed, and my cousins there, as well as others, say that CO. Wexford was not as affected by the famine, anyhow. My cousin suggests that since his father got the house, there was no place else to go. But I do not understand that logic, or culture, as it were. Milli

    02/27/2000 08:29:04
    1. [WEX] Thomas Byrne
    2. Donna Pierce
    3. Seeking information on Thomas Byrne and his family. According to an old letter, Thomas and "all the Byrne's" were born on Gullet Road, Clahamen, Ferns, Co. Wexford. I have no dates but assume Thomas was born sometime prior to 1850. Thomas married a woman named Mary, possibly Huff or Cuffe. They had six children that I am aware of: Valentine, Stephen, Patrick, James, Sarah (Sally) and Annie. Sarah was born Sept. 26, 1870 and eloped with Henry Murphy when she was only 13. Sarah and her husband and Stephen and Annie all immigrated to America. Stephen was killed working on the railroad. It is unknown what became of Annie. Patrick was killed while working in John Jameson's brewery in Dublin. Any information regarding this family would be deeply appreciated. Thank you! Donna

    02/26/2000 07:36:58
    1. [WEX] Musgrave Source & Webster history
    2. Greg Finnegan
    3. Re those seeking Musgrave--the modern reprint was from a small (kitchen-table?) press in Indiana USA, so possibly outside even Amazon.com's massive list. The book is listed for sale by a Canadian genealogy book/etc vendor: http://globalgenealogy.com/ireland.htm SIR RICHARD MUSGRAVE'S MEMOIRS OF THE IRISH REBELLION OF 1798 - Most important contemporary published source on the insurrection led by the United Irishman. More information CAT #239001 ..........$79.99 Canadian Dollars The book IS *invaluable*, but is highly biased; the modern reprint has a good introduction explaining that, as well as having a much more complete index than the original editions. But while the book details massive numbers of Wexford Protestant casualties, the main list of same (as distinct from incidents discussed in the text itself) is the list of those claiming compensation. So for those of us descended from Robert WEBSTER, hoisted on pikes and tossed from the Enniscorthy bridge--that incident isn't discussed. The burning of Robert's house (and his brother's) IS mentioned--but he doesn't show up in the victim roster except that his widow's need for support is listed--but he isn't named even there, as the focus was naming those compensated, who were necessarily survivors. The Enniscorthy Bridge incident *IS* discussed on pp. 138-139 of Glenn J. LOCKWOOD, THE REAR OF LEEDS & LANSDOWNE: THE MAKING OF COMMUNITY ON THE GANANOQUE RIVER FRONTIER, 1796-1996, published in 1996 by the Corporation of the Township of the Rear of Leeds and Lansdowne, PO Box 160, Lyndhurst, ON. Lockwood takes the several paragraphs he quotes from "anonymous, WEBSTER [family history] (gestetnered manuscript and family tree, n.d.)" loaned to him. The same text, word for word, is also found on pp. 21-22 of THE TEN BROTHERS: A GENEALOGY OF THE LEECH FAMILY TOGETHER WITH A SHORT BIOGRAPHY OF THE 10 BROTHERS, PUBLISHED 1951--tho' the preface is signed J. Hillyard LEECH, KC, Winnipeg MN, March 8th 1929. The 10 brothers in question, developers of Gorrie (sic) Ontario in the 1850's-70's, were sons of Barbara WEBSTER, dau. of the Robert killed on the bridge. Greg Finnegan Seeking Palatine POOLEs (Ram estates, Gorey), JOHNSTON (exact location in N. WEX unknown), LEECH, and WEBSTER (Garrybrit.) Gregory A. Finnegan, PhD Associate Librarian for Public Services and Head of Reference Tozzer Library Harvard University 21 Divinity Avenue Cambridge MA 02138-2089 617-495-2253 fax 617-496-2741 gregory_finnegan@harvard.edu "...have mercy on us all --Presbyterians and Pagans alike -- for we are all somehow dreadfully cracked about the head, and sadly need mending." MOBY-DICK, chapter 17.

    02/26/2000 01:18:39
    1. [WEX] Musgrave's book 1798 rebellion
    2. Bob Stone
    3. Hi; The book "Memoirs of the Irish Rebellion of 1798" by Sir Richard Musgrave is available from: Blair's Book Service Windyedge, 277 Crider Lane, Woodstock, Virginia 22664-9542 USA Phone (703) 459-2090 (Voice) (703) 459-5898 Hope this helps, Bob

    02/26/2000 12:29:18
    1. Re: [WEX]
    2. Philip O'Rourke
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: Roma McDougall <r_mcdougall@optusnet.com.au> To: <WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 5:12 AM Subject: [WEX] > I am delighted to find that there is a mailing list for Wexford, especially as I am hoping to visit later on this year. I am interested in Enniscorthy and in the Humphreys family who lived there in the latter half of the 19th century and in the early 20th. I have in my possession a letter written by Benjamin Humphreys to my grandfather who was his nephew by marriage, but with whom there was clearly a close relationship. The letter is dated 1898 and gives the address as Castle Hill House, Enniscorthy. Benjamin was an uncle by marriage to my grandfather, but there was clearly a close relationship between them. Benjamin had a business of some kind in Enniscorthy and also owned a farm.. Several sons, William (b.17 Mar 1871) and Benjamin, were involved with the business and the farm. Another son, Thomas, became a clergyman in the Church of Ireland. > > I would very much appreciate any information about this family. > Best wishes, > Roma McDougall. > > ______________________________ I hope these may be of some help. HUMPHREY John HUMPHREY Moses FUNGE Mary C701435 3589835 HUMPHREYS, John Bir 1870 WEXF Fa: Moses HUMPHREYS Mo: Mary Anne FUNGE HUMPHREY William HUMPHREY Benjamin SUTCLIFFE Mary C701446 3620765 HUMPHREYS, William Edwin Bir 1871 WEXF Fa: Benjamin HUMPHREYS Mo: Mary SUTLIFFE HUMPHREY Mary HUMPHREY Aden FUNGE Mary C701459 3683364 HUMPHREYS, Mary Anne Bir 1871 WEXF Fa: Aiden HUMPHREYS Mo: Mary Anne FUNGE Regards Philip http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/o/r/o/Philip-J-Orourke/ Also researching: BANFIELD..................................... of Kerry>Cork KEANE........................................... of West Cork DALTON........................................ of Carrick-on-Suir>Kerry COUGHLAN................................... of West Cork O'ROURKE/ROURKE/RORKE..... of Wexford FURLONG...................................... of Wexford O'BRIEN /BRYAN.......................... of Limerick>Kilkenny BRENNAN...................................... of Kilkenny MEEHAN........................................ of Kerry TAFFE............................................. of Kerry FARRELL........................................ of Kilkenny

    02/26/2000 08:10:09
    1. RE: [WEX] Re: Musgrave's book 1798 rebellion
    2. Jim Martin
    3. I find abebooks.com an excellent source of out of print books, great searchable database Jim Martin Get $10 in Free Money! Send Money to Anyone with Email $10 Free Just for Signing Up https://secure.paypal.com/refer/pal=rumpledhasher%40yahoo.com -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [WEX] Re: Musgrave's book 1798 rebellion How about trying Ebay for the out of print books? Carol Magee ***************************************************************

    02/25/2000 08:14:48
    1. RE: [WEX] Family response
    2. Most of the families listed descended from common soldiers who arrived in the county with the Norman knights at the invitation of Dermot McMurrough. For their assistance in fighting their enemies, Dermot gave land in the southern baronies to the soldiers. These families retained their customs and language and mingled little with the Irish people around them, although by the late 1600's only the baronies of Forth and Bargy retained the old ways. Unfortunately, the old language is now extinct, and linguists have been unable to translate it. Most of the names are Norman, Cambro-Norman, or Cornish. Edel Codd, Fardy, Power, Roche, Walsh, Doyle in Wexford -----Original Message----- From: Joan [mailto:" rolfes"@erols.com] Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2000 12:44 PM To: WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WEX] Family response Thank you to all that replied to me about the book. In looking at the list, I was surprised at the difference in the names. Not Kelly, O'Connor, O'Brien or Fitz-anything. It shows the diversity of Wexford. Perhaps someone with more knowledge than I, can answer that one. Speaking of knowledge! Many have asked me for help. I am not a professional researcher. As Celestine can attest, I can not even find data on my grandparents that left Ireland in 1903. I think they hid behind a tree anytime someone asked questions. I have a CD Vital Records Index British Isles listing SOME births for 1864-1874 and have done some lookups for people on this list. If anyone else has a reference material perhaps we can help each other. Joan rolfes@erols.com STAFFORD/CARBERY/CURTIS/CAIN All Wexford ______________________________

    02/25/2000 03:00:29
    1. Re: [WEX] Re: Musgrave's book 1798 rebellion
    2. How about trying Ebay for the out of print books? Carol Magee *************************************************************** In a message dated 02/24/2000 9:27:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, sharonhiner@hotmail.com writes: << I just went back and searched futher with amazon.com and found the following: Memoirs of the different rebellions in Ireland from the arrival of the English : also, a particular detail of that which broke out the 23d of May, 1798; with the history of the conspiracy which preceded it Richard Musgrave They tell me it is out of print but will query their network of used book stores and let me know in one to two weeks. I'll get back with their response if anyone is interested. Sharon from Montana searching: AHERN, FLAHERTY sharonhiner@hotmail.co >>

    02/25/2000 09:07:49
    1. [WEX] Spares - Castlebridge Register, St Iberius Church of Ireland 1800-03, Wexford
    2. Peter & Elizabeth Pidgeon
    3. G'Day Everyone, Some time ago I received a photocopy of an entry from the Castlebridge Register for 1800/1/2/3 in County Wexford. The entries are listed below. Many of the names are hard to decipher so I have placed a scan of the image on my website - see signature. If anyone can make out the names or recognises one then please let me know so that I can correct this list and re-post. 1800 Nov 23 Lorrenzo Percy, son of Wm HARVEY Esq and Dorothea his wife baptised. Dec 10 Henry MEREDITH of the city of Dublin Esq and Edith LeSTE?TE married, Church Castlebridge 1801 Feb 17 George GREENE and Margaret KEATING married Castlebridge Apr 3 William, son of Henry and An?tico HATCHELL baptised Apr 30 Dorethea Lauretta (?), daughter of Percy FREKE Esq and Dorothea his wife baptised May 11 Jonathan, son of Thomas and Mary BENNETT baptised June 27 Robert Percivall and Mary HATCHELL married Castlebridge Oct 25 George, son of Simon PURDOW Esq and Anne BISHOP baptised Dec 3 Samuel BOYCE and Elizabeth GAINFORB married Cbridge Dec 16 Joseph C?? and Margaret PURCY married Castlebridge Dec 17 Edward Lisdall, son of Math: ?AOENAGH Esq and Mary his wife baptised Dec 17 Catherine Charlotte (Charlotte crossed out), daughter of Maurice JONES Esq and Mary his wife baptised 1802 Jan 8 Samuel and Frances, children of Robert and Frances STEPHENS baptised Jan 16 Lydia, wife of Michael RYAN buried, Saundercourt Apr 22 George, son of Robert and Mary PERCIVALL baptised May 21 Catherine Charlotte, daughter of Percy FREKE Esq and Dorothea his wife baptised May 22 Catherine, daughter of Nicholos??? ADAMS of Gorey buried Saundercourt May 26 William WHITLEY buried Castlebridge June 4 Mary, daughter of ??? and Catherine HATCHELS baptised Oct 2 Richard PICKERING and Mary COFFY married Castlebridge Oct 13 George WHITMORE buried Ch:yard Castlebridge Oct 15 Henry, son of Robert and Frances STEPHENS baptised Oct 17 Elizabeth, daughter of Joseph and Mary CARLY baptised Nov 13 Joshua MORTON buried ch yard Ballyballoo Nov 14 Mary WHITMORE buried Ch yard Castlebridge Nov 14 Richard PIDGEON and Elizabeth FOLEY married Castlebridge Dec 16 John, son of Thomas and Mary BENNETT baptised Dec 20 Robert Anthony, son of Simon PURDOW Esq and Ann his wife baptised 1803 Jan 4 Edith, daughter of Richard and Edith GAINFORB baptised Feb 14 Elizabeth, daughter of Joseph and Margaret CONLON (?) or baptised Feb 19 Mr Champion BRADY of the City of Dublin and Marianne KEAN married Saundercourt Feb 26 Robert Hutchins, son of Arthur and Mary MURPHY bapt. Mar 13 Mary, daughter of John and Sarah DALEY baptised Apr 3 George, son of George and Jane WALL baptised Apr 6 Armstrong Thomas, son of Wm LYSTER (?) Esq and Martha his wife baptised Apr 6 George, son of Robert and Mary PERCIVALL baptised Regards, Peter N Pidgeon Leafy Eltham, Victoria, Australia Please visit our web site at www.users.bigpond.com/peter_pidgeon/ Research Names: http://carmen.murdoch.edu.au/community/dps/research/pid01.html

    02/25/2000 04:59:14
    1. [WEX]
    2. Roma McDougall
    3. I am delighted to find that there is a mailing list for Wexford, especially as I am hoping to visit later on this year. I am interested in Enniscorthy and in the Humphreys family who lived there in the latter half of the 19th century and in the early 20th. I have in my possession a letter written by Benjamin Humphreys to my grandfather who was his nephew by marriage, but with whom there was clearly a close relationship. The letter is dated 1898 and gives the address as Castle Hill House, Enniscorthy. Benjamin was an uncle by marriage to my grandfather, but there was clearly a close relationship between them. Benjamin had a business of some kind in Enniscorthy and also owned a farm.. Several sons, William (b.17 Mar 1871) and Benjamin, were involved with the business and the farm. Another son, Thomas, became a clergyman in the Church of Ireland. I would very much appreciate any information about this family. Best wishes, Roma McDougall.

    02/24/2000 10:12:57
    1. Patrick & Mary Doyle-c1832
    2. George D. Allen
    3. Hi All, I'm trying to locate my ggggrandparents, Patrick & Mary Doyle , who came to Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada around 1832. They brought three children; Daniel, Bridget and Catherine. I have their record from that time but am unable to detemine the parish or community that they lived in prior to their departure. Does anyone out there have this family as part of their ancestors? If so, please let me know as I am completely stuck at this moment. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards, George Allen gda@nbnet.nb.ca Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada Canada's Most Irish City

    02/24/2000 03:19:52
    1. [WEX] Re: Musgrave's book 1798 rebellion
    2. sharon hiner
    3. I just went back and searched futher with amazon.com and found the following: Memoirs of the different rebellions in Ireland from the arrival of the English : also, a particular detail of that which broke out the 23d of May, 1798; with the history of the conspiracy which preceded it Richard Musgrave They tell me it is out of print but will query their network of used book stores and let me know in one to two weeks. I'll get back with their response if anyone is interested. Sharon from Montana searching: AHERN, FLAHERTY sharonhiner@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

    02/24/2000 02:25:13
    1. [WEX] Re: Musgrave's book and Morgan's Hill, Wexford
    2. sharon hiner
    3. Hi all, I checked to see if amazon.com had Richard Musgrave's book on the 1798 Rebellion and the only two close matches they could give me were: Rebellion! : Ireland in 1798 -- Daniel Gahan; Paperback Year of Liberty : The Great Irish Rebellion of 1798 [ABRIDGED] -- Thomas Pakenham, Toby Buchan; Hardcover Anyone know if these are as good? I also tried to contact Bantry Book Store to see if they had it, but must have changed their mail server, does anyone have their new address. Heck, I could just ask where I might find Musgrave's book, anyone know? Edel, I think I've found MORGAN'S Hill in So Wexford, township of Kilmore. Waiting for a reply from local PP. Trying not to get TOOO excited. Sharon from Montana ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

    02/24/2000 02:15:30