RootsWeb.com Mailing Lists
Previous Page      Next Page
Total: 7640/8857
    1. [WEX] MARGARET BARRON - 1800 - IRELAND
    2. Betty Jackan
    3. Margaret BARRON (BARNES) was my g-g-g-grandmother. I know that she was born in IR and according to the 1860 Census she was born in 1800. She had 10 children and I don't know who her husband was or when and where they were married. I know that at least 1 of her children was born in County Wexford. That child was Elizabeth BARRON born 1830. I also know that my g-g-grandmother Johanna (Judy) BARRON was born 1835 in Dublin. I don't know where in IR the other 8 children were born. Margaret BARRON'S children were: 1) Sarah, 2) Michael, 3) Elizabeth, 4) Johanna, 5) Margaret, 6) William, 7) John, 8) Peter, 9) Richard, 10) Oliver. Elizabeth and 2 of her brothers (which ones are unknown to me) came to NY about 1850. Elizabeth married Owen DEVANEY 1854 in Syracuse, NY. In 1854 Elizabeth and her husband moved to Ogle County, IL. Her brothers also came to Ogle Co, IL, but I don't know when. At some unknown later date Margaret came as a widow with the rest of her children to Ogle County, IL. This is all the information I have. Any information you can give me would be greatly appreciated. Betty Jackan

    03/03/2000 06:56:38
    1. [WEX] GAHAN
    2. Sean Gahan
    3. Hello to the list My gggGrandfather Peter Gahan m. Catherine Murphy....have not yet established where or when. Their children were: Mary b. 25 Jan 1806 Patrick b. 13 Feb 1807 Thomas b. 13 Feb 1809 Richard b. 26 Mar 1810 - of whom more later Peter b. 20 Apr 1812 Michael b 14 Apr 1814 John b. 2 Dec 1816 Thomas b. 16 Apr 1819 Richard (above) is my ggGrandfather. He m. Mary Fardy 16 Jan 1842 at St. Michael's Church, New Ross, Co. Wexford, and their known children were: Johanna Gahan b. 12 Dec 1842 Peter b. 29 Jul 1844 Matthew b. 23 Jul 1846 - of whom more later Richard b. 6 Apr 1848 All of the above died here in Montreal. Matthew (above) was my GGrandfather. He left Ireland in 1853 or 1854 with his brother Richard emigrating to Montreal, Quebec, Canada. They were very young and probably traveled with someone but we know not who. Have all data on all successive generations of both Richard and Matthew. Johanna m. Michael Pugh in Montreal and died a widow without offspring, to my knowledge. Peter married twice, in Montreal,. and his only son Richard Daniel died in infancy, again to the best of my knowledge. All births noted, except as noted above, were in New Ross and all baptisms were at St. Michael's, New Ross, which was replaced in 1902 by St. Mary & St. Michael's Church. Searching for all of ggGrandfather's siblings and their descendants, connections to Catherine Murphy, connections to Mary Fardy. Would be pleased to hear from anyone who thinks they may be connected or who thinks I may be able to help them. Researching GAHAN, MURPHY, FARDY, in Wexford; O'ROURKE, LEE, in Leitrim & O'CONNOR, O'MEARA, in Sligo Regards to all' Sean O'Rourke Gahan

    03/03/2000 05:03:30
    1. [WEX] BARDON & DOUGLAS
    2. Kevin Kelly
    3. Researching BARDON,AND DOUGLAS,CO WEXFORD. Kevin Kelly,St Louis ----- Original Message ----- From: <WEXFORD-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <WEXFORD-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 1:52 PM Subject: WEXFORD-D Digest V00 #29

    03/02/2000 01:06:29
    1. [WEX] Carty/Stafford
    2. Joan
    3. Finally heard from the Wexford Heritage center today. They only give a tidbit at a time. John CARTY married Margaret STAFFORD Jan. 10, 1884 in Rathimney, Ballycullane. I know they left and went to the USA and settled in Chicago IL. I have a letter from 1940 to Margie in Dunmain asking her how her children were and what is their address in Chicago, so I am wondering if she returned to Ireland. Any Carty searchers that may recognize this marriage? Joan

    03/01/2000 11:11:35
    1. [WEX] Musgrave/WEBSTER correction
    2. Greg Finnegan
    3. In my posting a few days ago re Musgrave as a resource for names and information about people, especially Protestants, in 1798 Wexford, I mistakenly wrote that the killing of my ancestor Robert WEBSTER on the Enniscorthy bridge wasn't directly mentioned. In fact, his death, in that manner, is described on p. 742 of the modern reprint. The statement is indeed brief; the account I cited in Lockwood's Canadian local history is much more detailed. Greg Finnegan, Cambridge MA, USA

    03/01/2000 04:51:35
    1. [WEX] WARNING - Non genealogy...Attachment
    2. Jane Lyons
    3. My apologies to everyone and anyone who has received a post with a Pretty Park attachment from me. My Norton checker didn't pick up on it, while I did save to disc and check.......but regardless....I realised what it was or remembered almost as soon as I had it opened!! If anyone has opened a Pretty Park atachment from me.....I hope you have deleted it!! if not, please do a find on your computer for a file called FILES32.VXD www.McAfee.com have a 14 day free trial offer - their clinic will do a scan of your computer and should be able to clean it. Jane

    02/29/2000 08:58:59
    1. [WEX] Musgrave' s book
    2. sharon hiner
    3. I went to the Canadian site for Musgrave's book and it is out of print there too. I will wait for amazon.com to get back to me about where and if they can find it, I'll let all know. Cheers Sharon from Montana ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

    02/29/2000 04:20:02
    1. [WEX] KIDD, SEABROOK, GAINFORT, PIERCE
    2. Linda Smith
    3. Hello listers, I am looking for any information on KIDD, SEABROOK, GAINFORT, PIERCE families - some around Ferns, Corah, Ballycarney, Ballynastraw, Ballyboy, Kilbride. I have a family history on the Kidd family up to the early 1900s. Any info is appreciated. Linda

    02/29/2000 03:54:59
    1. [WEX] Slaney River
    2. Larry O'Brien
    3. Does anyone know the origins of the name for the Slaney River which goes through the center of the county? Larry O'Brien

    02/29/2000 12:32:46
    1. [WEX] Re: chain migration
    2. Greg Finnegan
    3. Robert Carley's correct in noting the role of the Crown in promoting settlement in Canada in general and the Leeds/Lanark county area in general. Much important fighting in the War of 1812 took place on the Great Lakes, where water transport was essential for trade and travel west. The region around the Thousand Islands & just west had been settled by people from Vermont who were not United Empire Loyalists fleeing the new republic; they were just following the frontier west. Their loyalty to the Crown was suspect and the gov. was very worried about the possibilty that in a future war this might mean the US could cut off supplies and reinforcements to points west. This led to building the Rideau Canal--by Irish laborers, many of them RC-- from what is now Ottawa down to Kingston, to provide a second route around the vulnerable area. In addition, the military was downsized after the end of both the local War of 1812 and the world Napoleonic Wars--and troops demobilized in Canada were offered land to encourage them to settle. There were also various Crown programs to subsidize immigration, which attracted groups from Scotland and Ireland. Meanwhile, the end of the war period made trans-Atlantic travel possible again, allowing the Wexford Protestants, among others, to act on the realization they'd had in 1798 about their future prospects--and various farm produce and cloth prices dropped sharply after the wars as well. These were incentives to leave WEX. As for Why Go to Leeds & Lansdowne & adjacent places... This was the area where land was being awarded to immigrants, for the strategic reasons mentioned, and once some settlers were there, others following went in 'chain migration' where they had kin and friends. Lockwood's chapter "the Chosen People" (pp. 114-172) discusses all this and gives the relevant sources. And not all the land was good farmland--which is why following generations continued to move west. There was certainly such chain migration. The interlocking Gorey/Garrybrit Wesleyan families of WEBSTER, JOHNSTON, LEECH and POOLE that I descend from settled together in Canada, the others apparently following WEBSTERS who emigrated circa 1812, and various of them continued to move in groups to Newboro ON, Gorrie in Huron Co. ON, and finally around 1882 to Balcarres in what is now Saskatchewan--where there were members of all the families (and where some still live.) And re Ellen Rudd's aside re "Why Lockwood"--I don't know him, but I think he did an MA under Donald Akenson of Queen's U, Kingston, a major historian of Irish (especially Protestants) in Canada and elsewhere.) Lockwood has written several histories of communities in the same area; I think he writes somewhere about his own ancestral connections to the area/community. Besides Akenson and Lockwood, Bruce S. Elliott has written a good deal about Irish Protestants in Wexford & environs and in Canada. Carolyn Heald of the Ontario Provincial Archives wrote THE IRISH PALATINES IN ONTARIO: RELIGION, ETHNICITY, AND RURAL MIGRATION (Langdale Press, Gananoque, ON 1994.) While about one specific Methodist group, centred in Limerick, as a good number (including some POOLEs) were on Ram family estates near Gorey and New Ross, and, in my case at least, intermarried with other Methodists, this is a good account of Protestant emigration from Wexford to Ontario. The book as cited is out of print, but it appeared as well (minus the prefaces and index) in vol. IX of CANADIAN PAPERS IN RURAL HISTORY (edited by Akenson), which is still available. Cheers/Greg Finnegan Cambridge MA USA

    02/29/2000 09:12:30
    1. [WEX] a philosophical commentary
    2. Ellen
    3. Some of you will not perceive the following comments as relevant to a genealogical list. I view these thoughts as absolutely essential. I was reared in 1950s New Orleans with a Civil Rights Activist mother. We were not allowed to describe people with any references to color: not hair, not eyes, and certainly not skin. We were taught to focus on the essence of the personality and perhaps that's why I chose social work as a career. I've been subbed to several *celtic* lists, both culture and genealogy. Flame wars are a way of life on the culture lists, so I don't sub anymore. But, I've encountered an amazing degree, to me, of anti-Americanism on all the lists to which I've subbed, and I'm mostly a lurker. Ethnic *cleansing* is occurring all over the world as I write and our distant relatives and ancestors participated. Does it have to continue over the internet? My mother taught me we all began in the same place; we landed on different squares, like a checkerboard. According to her, and ANY religion to which I've been exposed, all people have more in common than they have differences. I was taught the high road is to focus on the similarities and the common ground; the low road was to pick, find fault, and discriminate. God, no matter what you call Him/Her, wants us to take the high road, but S/He gives us Free Will to choose our own path. I happen to believe in Karmic Balance; you get what you give. I don't always take the high road because I'm not perfect. But, by golly, I TRY and I know when I've taken the wrong path. I've changed careers; I teach at a university now. I'm no longer a social worker. That's evidence of disillusionment. And, I'm ready to unsub from every list because I'm intolerant of anti-Americanism. That's a prejudice. I'm guilty as confessed. My ancestors weren't just Celtic Irish. They were also Angle, Saxon, Norman, and Viking. It's interesting to sort out the puzzle. It's not a contest about superiority. Yes, I'm still stewing about the accusation today that Americans believe they're superior. I'm sure some do. So do some Canadians, some Irish, some English, some Scots, some French, some Africans, and on and on and on. I'm learning about whence I came and I'm looking for a common ground. I want to live my life by following the high road and I know I won't always succeed. But, I'm probably not always going to turn the other cheek when anti-Americanism is thrown at me because I don't deserve that and neither do my fellow citizens. We're just people and our ancestors all came from some other place. They just happened, by choice or by accident, to land on THIS square of the checkerboard. I'm disappointed in myself for wasting so much time today fretting about prejudice. But, I was reared to fret about prejudice. I wrote something innocuous, if not complimentary, today, and prejudice was read in to it. Why? I guess I can unsub if I want to throw a temper tantrum, but who is punished? Focusing on the positive, I found some other people whose ancestors lived the same place as mine at the same time. So, I'll go to bed focusing on the positive. This time. But, I know I can take the low road as well and I might screw up my own Karmic Balance by unsubbing in a fit of pique over prejudice. I think it's important to remember from whence we all came, when there weren't Celts, Angles, Saxons, Normans and Vikings. But, it IS a personal choice. I won't announce mine if I unsub, but I do feel compelled, at the moment, to share my thoughts. There are a great many lists devoted to ethnic prejudice if that's one's calling. I find it difficult to believe our common ancestors would be very proud of that with their benefit of retrospect. And, as a last stand, I'm interested in my Celtic ancestors, but I'm proud of my US citizenship just as I hope all of you are proud of your citizenship. Being proud and feeling superior are most definitely not the same thing. Should I have left this all unsaid and let peace prevail? I don't know. I feel like writing it. ListOwner: Feel free to throw me off the list for irrelevancy if I haven't already unsubbed. My conscience is clear. And, many thanks to those who wrote supportive letters to me as well as those who found we have ancestors in a common place at the same time.

    02/28/2000 10:35:32
    1. [WEX] Gananoque/Lansdowne
    2. I am a fifth generation SLY from the Gananoque/Lansdowne area. I also have the book THE REAR OF LEEDS & LANSDOWNE: THE MAKING OF COMMUNITY ON THE GANANOQUE RIVER FRONTIER, 1796-1996 by Mr Lockwood. I was there that day in Lyndhurst when it was first released. This has been very interesting for me to read so many replies about the area where my families have lived since it was first colonized in the late 1700's. In regards to Lockwood taking several paragraphs he quoted from "anonymous, WEBSTER [family history] (gestetnered manuscript and family tree, n.d.)" loaned to him....I found this very interesting because I grew up all of my childhood beside the WEBSTER farm of the man who gave him that family history. Mr WEBSTER was our unofficial community historian and a very kind gentleman. In answer to the question "I always wondered why my ancestor picked such a remote place to go to. The settlement was mostly Irish and some Scots." They probably had the same reasons as a lot of other Irish yeomen did. They were drawn to these remote rural areas by the free land grants to loyal Irishmen offered by the government in an attempt to populate the area just north of the St. Lawrence River which was the natural border separating the still loyal colony of Canada from the United States of America which had just finished rebelling against the Crown. The area was almost entirely settled by "United Empire Loyalist" (Americans who were forced to leave their families, friends and homes because they wished to remain loyal to the Crown and not rebel along with the rest of their countrymen). . The government became very much aware of that these UEL's had too many ties to their old country and could not be trusted upon in the event of a war to fight against their old neighbors and family after the War of 1812, when many UEL's refused to fight. (In fairness to those people, some of which were my ancestors, I think the government had already inflicted enough hardship upon them and should not have expected them to fight against their loved ones!) After this eye opening experience the government then chose to encourage loyal emigrants from the British Isles to come help populate the area. They would make an effective barrier against any future fighting with the United States. Of those emigrants who chose to come to Rear of Leeds and Lansdowne nearly 75% of them were Irishmen. There was a virtual flood of Irish emigrants to the township in the 1820's. In the 1842 Census of Leeds and Grenville County (Rear of Leeds and Lansdowne is part of this county) the Irish emigrants numbered close to 1/3 of the population. In the community where I grew up there were very few people who didn't have Irish ancestors. I have travelled over a good deal of the United States with my husband who is a trucker and in fairness to Rear of Leeds and Lansdowne, I can honestly say that it contains some of the most beautiful country in all of God's creation! With all of the hills, forests, crags, and lakes too numerous to count, there is no where that I would rather live. Sonya Palaisy Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com

    02/28/2000 10:32:50
    1. [WEX] DINN/DENN Researchers
    2. Shirley. Kirk
    3. I would be interested in communicating with anyone who is researching the above surname. Or, secondly, maybe someone you know is researching the above surname. My gggrandfather was born in New Ross,Co. Wexford,Ireland 6 Sep 1791 to Richard Dinn and Catherine Hamilton. Michael was a blacksmith and emigrated to Halifax,Nova Scotia and then after his marriage to Catherine Finn 3 Sep 1829 in Halifax they moved to Saint John,New Brunswick,Canada. It was here they raised their family - children - Richard John,b.1832,Mary Anne b. 1834, Martin b. 1837, Bridget b. 1839, Catherine Dinn (twins) 1839, Elizabeth, b. 1841, Hugh Michael , b. 1843, James b. 1848, James Patrick 1850. Any help regarding the above would be greatly appreciated. I have research on this family to the present generation. Shirley Kirk Nova Scotia,Canada

    02/28/2000 09:29:49
    1. [WEX] Ireland to Canada to Vermont to Wisconsin
    2. Pam Kehoe
    3. Why did they leave? My Patrick and Bridget Kehoe's left in 1824 with two small daughters christened in Leighlenbridge, Co Carlow. I'm still not sure if Patrick son of William Andrew was from Wexford or not. But the beauty of Ireland is something that still catches my breath each time I visit. However, last September I was lucky enough to make a connection thru the net with direct descendents living in Vermont. The area that my Kehoe's settled compares to the beauty of Ireland. So green and beautiful, many Irish settled there. Patrick's sons, William and John struck out for Wisconsin and settled here. Now the winters are harsh but the springs turn the Kettle Moraine area of Wisconsin in to lush green hills. A sure reminder of "home." I'm still not clear on the "why" they left. But I'm sure that they were drawn and would not settle anywhere that didn't remind them of "home". Pam Kehoe Wisconsin FAMILY RESEARCH:KEHOE,BRYNE,LOW,BEATTY,BOYD,SCOTT,ELDER, THOMAS and more Family website - http://www.geocities.com/drk4779 Walworth County Historical Society - http://www.geocities.com/walcohistory

    02/28/2000 08:57:13
    1. Re: [WEX] Gananoque/Lansdowne
    2. Ellen
    3. > I have travelled over a good deal of the United States with my husband who is a > trucker and in fairness to Rear of Leeds and Lansdowne, I can honestly say that it contains > some of the most beautiful country in all of God's creation! With all of the hills, forests, crags, > and lakes too numerous to count, there is no where that I would rather live. > As I said in my original note, I lived on the other side of the St. Lawrence River (in Watertown, NY) for a few years which is how I was lucky enough to visit elderly distant cousins, see family farms, etc. The country is quite breath-taking on both sides of the river. We had to move for personal reasons, but it was a difficult decision. The Thousand Islands didn't become a major tourist attraction for no reason. I'd have to say the winters are kind of tough, but the geography is gorgeous. I hope some day to see Wexford and I hope that the sadness my ancestors must have felt about leaving friends, family, and possessions was somewhat alleviated by finding such a glorious new place to call home. I had no idea there were books written about this migration and am looking forward to tracking down at least one of them this summer. For all I know about the names of my ancestors going back to 1630, I am clearly quite ignorant about the political stuff which controlled their lives. I knew Wexford (or think I know Wexford) is called the (or a) seat of Rebellion. But, I never knew specifics about the Rebellion of 1798 until I subbed to this list. I thus far have not seen the name of an ancestor involved in it, but everyone who lived there must have been involved in some way. Thanks to all who have published so much interesting information about something that's puzzled me for some time. Although I spent many enjoyable hours visiting with elderly cousins in family farms in G/L, not one of them ever gave me a reason for why our mutual ancestors had left their homeland. They did give me boxes of old photos and letters, though, and other priceles s stories. Ellen

    02/28/2000 07:22:46
    1. [WEX] Re: WEXFORD-D Digest V00 #26
    2. Peter Carty
    3. WEXFORD-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > WEXFORD-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 26 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Re: [WEX] ["Philip O'Rourke" <pjorourke@eirco] > #2 [WEX] Musgrave's book 1798 rebelli [Bob Stone <bstone1@home.com>] > #3 [WEX] Musgrave Source & Webster hi [finnegan@fas.harvard.edu (Greg Fin] > #4 [WEX] Thomas Byrne [Donna Pierce <dpierce@wyoming.com>] > #5 [WEX] Gananoque/Lansdowne ["Ellen" <ellenrudd@ameritech.net>] > #6 Re: [WEX] Gananoque/Lansdowne ["John Connors" <chrisone@nf.sympat] > #7 Re: [WEX] Gananoque/Lansdowne [Westmilli@aol.com] > #8 [WEX] Barry Family [James Cox <jim63@mediaone.net>] > #9 [WEX] Doyle Family ["Dann-Online" <dann@dann-online.co] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from WEXFORD-D, send a message to > > WEXFORD-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > To unsubscribe on the web, go to > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/subscribe.html > > Hugh > > Listowner > > hugh@xtra.co.nz > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: [WEX] > Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 15:10:09 -0000 > From: "Philip O'Rourke" <pjorourke@eircom.net> > To: WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Roma McDougall <r_mcdougall@optusnet.com.au> > To: <WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 5:12 AM > Subject: [WEX] > > > I am delighted to find that there is a mailing list for Wexford, > especially as I am hoping to visit later on this year. I am interested in > Enniscorthy and in the Humphreys family who lived there in the latter half > of the 19th century and in the early 20th. I have in my possession a > letter written by Benjamin Humphreys to my grandfather who was his nephew > by marriage, but with whom there was clearly a close relationship. The > letter is dated 1898 and gives the address as Castle Hill House, > Enniscorthy. Benjamin was an uncle by marriage to my grandfather, but there > was clearly a close relationship between them. Benjamin had a business of > some kind in Enniscorthy and also owned a farm.. Several sons, William > (b.17 Mar 1871) and Benjamin, were involved with the business and the farm. > Another son, Thomas, became a clergyman in the Church of Ireland. > > > > I would very much appreciate any information about this family. > > Best wishes, > > Roma McDougall. > > > > ______________________________ > > I hope these may be of some help. > > HUMPHREY John HUMPHREY Moses FUNGE Mary C701435 3589835 > HUMPHREYS, John Bir 1870 WEXF Fa: Moses HUMPHREYS > Mo: Mary Anne FUNGE > > HUMPHREY William HUMPHREY Benjamin SUTCLIFFE Mary C701446 3620765 > HUMPHREYS, William Edwin Bir 1871 WEXF Fa: Benjamin HUMPHREYS > Mo: Mary SUTLIFFE > > HUMPHREY Mary HUMPHREY Aden FUNGE Mary C701459 3683364 > HUMPHREYS, Mary Anne Bir 1871 WEXF Fa: Aiden HUMPHREYS > Mo: Mary Anne FUNGE > > Regards > Philip > http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/o/r/o/Philip-J-Orourke/ > > Also researching: > BANFIELD..................................... of Kerry>Cork > KEANE........................................... of West Cork > DALTON........................................ of Carrick-on-Suir>Kerry > COUGHLAN................................... of West Cork > O'ROURKE/ROURKE/RORKE..... of Wexford > FURLONG...................................... of Wexford > O'BRIEN /BRYAN.......................... of Limerick>Kilkenny > BRENNAN...................................... of Kilkenny > MEEHAN........................................ of Kerry > TAFFE............................................. of Kerry > FARRELL........................................ of Kilkenny > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: [WEX] Musgrave's book 1798 rebellion > Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 14:29:18 -0500 > From: Bob Stone <bstone1@home.com> > To: WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com > > Hi; > > The book "Memoirs of the Irish Rebellion of 1798" by Sir Richard > Musgrave is available from: > > Blair's Book Service > Windyedge, 277 Crider Lane, > Woodstock, Virginia 22664-9542 > USA > Phone (703) 459-2090 (Voice) > (703) 459-5898 > > Hope this helps, > > Bob > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: [WEX] Musgrave Source & Webster history > Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 15:18:39 -0500 > From: finnegan@fas.harvard.edu (Greg Finnegan) > To: WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com > > Re those seeking Musgrave--the modern reprint was from a small > (kitchen-table?) press in Indiana USA, so possibly outside even > Amazon.com's massive list. The book is listed for sale by a Canadian > genealogy book/etc vendor: > > http://globalgenealogy.com/ireland.htm > > SIR RICHARD MUSGRAVE'S MEMOIRS OF THE IRISH REBELLION OF 1798 - Most > important contemporary published source on the insurrection led by the > United Irishman. More information > > CAT #239001 ..........$79.99 Canadian Dollars > > The book IS *invaluable*, but is highly biased; the modern reprint has a > good introduction explaining that, as well as having a much more complete > index than the original editions. But while the book details massive > numbers of Wexford Protestant casualties, the main list of same (as > distinct from incidents discussed in the text itself) is the list of those > claiming compensation. So for those of us descended from Robert WEBSTER, > hoisted on pikes and tossed from the Enniscorthy bridge--that incident > isn't discussed. The burning of Robert's house (and his brother's) IS > mentioned--but he doesn't show up in the victim roster except that his > widow's need for support is listed--but he isn't named even there, as the > focus was naming those compensated, who were necessarily survivors. > > The Enniscorthy Bridge incident *IS* discussed on pp. 138-139 of Glenn J. > LOCKWOOD, THE REAR OF LEEDS & LANSDOWNE: THE MAKING OF COMMUNITY ON THE > GANANOQUE RIVER FRONTIER, 1796-1996, published in 1996 by the Corporation > of the Township of the Rear of Leeds and Lansdowne, PO Box 160, Lyndhurst, > ON. Lockwood takes the several paragraphs he quotes from "anonymous, > WEBSTER [family history] (gestetnered manuscript and family tree, n.d.)" > loaned to him. The same text, word for word, is also found on pp. 21-22 of > THE TEN BROTHERS: A GENEALOGY OF THE LEECH FAMILY TOGETHER WITH A SHORT > BIOGRAPHY OF THE 10 BROTHERS, PUBLISHED 1951--tho' the preface is signed J. > Hillyard LEECH, KC, Winnipeg MN, March 8th 1929. The 10 brothers in > question, developers of Gorrie (sic) Ontario in the 1850's-70's, were sons > of Barbara WEBSTER, dau. of the Robert killed on the bridge. > > Greg Finnegan > Seeking Palatine POOLEs (Ram estates, Gorey), JOHNSTON (exact location in > N. WEX unknown), LEECH, and WEBSTER (Garrybrit.) > > Gregory A. Finnegan, PhD > Associate Librarian for Public Services > and Head of Reference > Tozzer Library > Harvard University > 21 Divinity Avenue > Cambridge MA 02138-2089 > 617-495-2253 fax 617-496-2741 > gregory_finnegan@harvard.edu > > "...have mercy on us all --Presbyterians and Pagans alike -- for we are all > somehow dreadfully cracked about the head, and sadly need mending." > MOBY-DICK, chapter 17. > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: [WEX] Thomas Byrne > Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 19:36:58 -0700 > From: Donna Pierce <dpierce@wyoming.com> > To: WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com > > Seeking information on Thomas Byrne and his family. According to an old > letter, Thomas and "all the Byrne's" were born on Gullet Road, Clahamen, > Ferns, Co. Wexford. I have no dates but assume Thomas was born sometime > prior to 1850. > > Thomas married a woman named Mary, possibly Huff or Cuffe. They had six > children that I am aware of: Valentine, Stephen, Patrick, James, Sarah > (Sally) and Annie. Sarah was born Sept. 26, 1870 and eloped with Henry > Murphy when she was only 13. Sarah and her husband and Stephen and Annie > all immigrated to America. Stephen was killed working on the railroad. It > is unknown what became of Annie. Patrick was killed while working in John > Jameson's brewery in Dublin. > > Any information regarding this family would be deeply appreciated. > > Thank you! > > Donna > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: [WEX] Gananoque/Lansdowne > Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 10:30:44 -0500 > From: "Ellen" <ellenrudd@ameritech.net> > To: WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com > > Good Heavens! This is the first time I've seen anything on the Wexford list > that could remotely tie in to my ancestor, Anthony Rudd, who left Clone, > Wexford, in 1816, with a few others to settle in Lansdowne/Gananoque, > Ontario. I used to live over the St. Lawrence River (in NY) from Gananoque > and visited several times, meeting ancient distant cousins. I always > wondered why my ancestor picked such a remote place to go to. The > settlement was mostly Irish and some Scots. My great grandmother was of > Scots ancestry. The whole message left me in a muddle since one of my > direct lines on my MOTHER's side is Robert Lockwood, of Winthrop's Fleet > fame. What's a Lockwood doing writing a book about people who settled where > my father's family settled? And, I'm also in Indiana, USA.... Why did > people leave Wexford and go to Gananoque? If you've ever been there, even > in the late 20th century, there's just not a whole lot there. It's very > rural; farm country. Pretty. Isolated. It's main claim to fame is a lot > of tour boats leave from there for trips around the Thousand Islands, but I > don't think that was a draw in 1816. If anyone has the book, are there any > Rudds involved? > > Ellen Rudd > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Greg Finnegan <finnegan@fas.harvard.edu> > To: <WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 3:18 PM > Subject: [WEX] Musgrave Source & Webster history > > > Re those seeking Musgrave--the modern reprint was from a small > > (kitchen-table?) press in Indiana USA, so possibly outside even > > Amazon.com's massive list. The book is listed for sale by a Canadian > > genealogy book/etc vendor: > > > > http://globalgenealogy.com/ireland.htm > > > > SIR RICHARD MUSGRAVE'S MEMOIRS OF THE IRISH REBELLION OF 1798 - Most > > important contemporary published source on the insurrection led by the > > United Irishman. More information > > > > CAT #239001 ..........$79.99 Canadian Dollars > > > > The book IS *invaluable*, but is highly biased; the modern reprint has a > > good introduction explaining that, as well as having a much more complete > > index than the original editions. But while the book details massive > > numbers of Wexford Protestant casualties, the main list of same (as > > distinct from incidents discussed in the text itself) is the list of those > > claiming compensation. So for those of us descended from Robert WEBSTER, > > hoisted on pikes and tossed from the Enniscorthy bridge--that incident > > isn't discussed. The burning of Robert's house (and his brother's) IS > > mentioned--but he doesn't show up in the victim roster except that his > > widow's need for support is listed--but he isn't named even there, as the > > focus was naming those compensated, who were necessarily survivors. > > > > The Enniscorthy Bridge incident *IS* discussed on pp. 138-139 of Glenn J. > > LOCKWOOD, THE REAR OF LEEDS & LANSDOWNE: THE MAKING OF COMMUNITY ON THE > > GANANOQUE RIVER FRONTIER, 1796-1996, published in 1996 by the Corporation > > of the Township of the Rear of Leeds and Lansdowne, PO Box 160, Lyndhurst, > > ON. Lockwood takes the several paragraphs he quotes from "anonymous, > > WEBSTER [family history] (gestetnered manuscript and family tree, n.d.)" > > loaned to him. The same text, word for word, is also found on pp. 21-22 > of > > THE TEN BROTHERS: A GENEALOGY OF THE LEECH FAMILY TOGETHER WITH A SHORT > > BIOGRAPHY OF THE 10 BROTHERS, PUBLISHED 1951--tho' the preface is signed > J. > > Hillyard LEECH, KC, Winnipeg MN, March 8th 1929. The 10 brothers in > > question, developers of Gorrie (sic) Ontario in the 1850's-70's, were sons > > of Barbara WEBSTER, dau. of the Robert killed on the bridge. > > > > Greg Finnegan > > Seeking Palatine POOLEs (Ram estates, Gorey), JOHNSTON (exact location in > > N. WEX unknown), LEECH, and WEBSTER (Garrybrit.) > > > > Gregory A. Finnegan, PhD > > Associate Librarian for Public Services > > and Head of Reference > > Tozzer Library > > Harvard University > > 21 Divinity Avenue > > Cambridge MA 02138-2089 > > 617-495-2253 fax 617-496-2741 > > gregory_finnegan@harvard.edu > > > > "...have mercy on us all --Presbyterians and Pagans alike -- for we are > all > > somehow dreadfully cracked about the head, and sadly need mending." > > MOBY-DICK, chapter 17. > > > > > > > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: [WEX] Gananoque/Lansdowne > Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 16:14:17 -1000 > From: "John Connors" <chrisone@nf.sympatico.ca> > To: WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com > > Great Question, one which I've asked myself about my ancestors who also > emigrated from County Wexford in 1816 for a small outport in Newfoundland. > After ready a little about Ireland and in particular County Wexford, I've > come to the conclusion that maybe the question needs to asked in perspective > of the conditions in Ireland during this period. I suspect that anything had > to be a great impovement for most who emigrated. > > Regards > John Connors > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ellen" <ellenrudd@ameritech.net> > To: <WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: February 27, 2000 5:30 AM > Subject: [WEX] Gananoque/Lansdowne > > > Good Heavens! This is the first time I've seen anything on the Wexford > list > > that could remotely tie in to my ancestor, Anthony Rudd, who left Clone, > > Wexford, in 1816, with a few others to settle in Lansdowne/Gananoque, > > Ontario. I used to live over the St. Lawrence River (in NY) from > Gananoque > > and visited several times, meeting ancient distant cousins. I always > > wondered why my ancestor picked such a remote place to go to. The > > settlement was mostly Irish and some Scots. My great grandmother was of > > Scots ancestry. The whole message left me in a muddle since one of my > > direct lines on my MOTHER's side is Robert Lockwood, of Winthrop's Fleet > > fame. What's a Lockwood doing writing a book about people who settled > where > > my father's family settled? And, I'm also in Indiana, USA.... Why did > > people leave Wexford and go to Gananoque? If you've ever been there, even > > in the late 20th century, there's just not a whole lot there. It's very > > rural; farm country. Pretty. Isolated. It's main claim to fame is a lot > > of tour boats leave from there for trips around the Thousand Islands, but > I > > don't think that was a draw in 1816. If anyone has the book, are there > any > > Rudds involved? > > > > Ellen Rudd > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Greg Finnegan <finnegan@fas.harvard.edu> > > To: <WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 3:18 PM > > Subject: [WEX] Musgrave Source & Webster history > > > > > > > Re those seeking Musgrave--the modern reprint was from a small > > > (kitchen-table?) press in Indiana USA, so possibly outside even > > > Amazon.com's massive list. The book is listed for sale by a Canadian > > > genealogy book/etc vendor: > > > > > > http://globalgenealogy.com/ireland.htm > > > > > > SIR RICHARD MUSGRAVE'S MEMOIRS OF THE IRISH REBELLION OF 1798 - Most > > > important contemporary published source on the insurrection led by the > > > United Irishman. More information > > > > > > CAT #239001 ..........$79.99 Canadian Dollars > > > > > > The book IS *invaluable*, but is highly biased; the modern reprint has a > > > good introduction explaining that, as well as having a much more > complete > > > index than the original editions. But while the book details massive > > > numbers of Wexford Protestant casualties, the main list of same (as > > > distinct from incidents discussed in the text itself) is the list of > those > > > claiming compensation. So for those of us descended from Robert WEBSTER, > > > hoisted on pikes and tossed from the Enniscorthy bridge--that incident > > > isn't discussed. The burning of Robert's house (and his brother's) IS > > > mentioned--but he doesn't show up in the victim roster except that his > > > widow's need for support is listed--but he isn't named even there, as > the > > > focus was naming those compensated, who were necessarily survivors. > > > > > > The Enniscorthy Bridge incident *IS* discussed on pp. 138-139 of Glenn > J. > > > LOCKWOOD, THE REAR OF LEEDS & LANSDOWNE: THE MAKING OF COMMUNITY ON THE > > > GANANOQUE RIVER FRONTIER, 1796-1996, published in 1996 by the > Corporation > > > of the Township of the Rear of Leeds and Lansdowne, PO Box 160, > Lyndhurst, > > > ON. Lockwood takes the several paragraphs he quotes from "anonymous, > > > WEBSTER [family history] (gestetnered manuscript and family tree, n.d.)" > > > loaned to him. The same text, word for word, is also found on pp. 21-22 > > of > > > THE TEN BROTHERS: A GENEALOGY OF THE LEECH FAMILY TOGETHER WITH A SHORT > > > BIOGRAPHY OF THE 10 BROTHERS, PUBLISHED 1951--tho' the preface is signed > > J. > > > Hillyard LEECH, KC, Winnipeg MN, March 8th 1929. The 10 brothers in > > > question, developers of Gorrie (sic) Ontario in the 1850's-70's, were > sons > > > of Barbara WEBSTER, dau. of the Robert killed on the bridge. > > > > > > Greg Finnegan > > > Seeking Palatine POOLEs (Ram estates, Gorey), JOHNSTON (exact location > in > > > N. WEX unknown), LEECH, and WEBSTER (Garrybrit.) > > > > > > Gregory A. Finnegan, PhD > > > Associate Librarian for Public Services > > > and Head of Reference > > > Tozzer Library > > > Harvard University > > > 21 Divinity Avenue > > > Cambridge MA 02138-2089 > > > 617-495-2253 fax 617-496-2741 > > > gregory_finnegan@harvard.edu > > > > > > "...have mercy on us all --Presbyterians and Pagans alike -- for we are > > all > > > somehow dreadfully cracked about the head, and sadly need mending." > > > MOBY-DICK, chapter 17. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: [WEX] Gananoque/Lansdowne > Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:29:04 EST > From: Westmilli@aol.com > To: WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com > > Perhaps many of us, if not all, have asked that question. My grandparents > left beautiful Ballyboggan/Castlebridge for Baltimore City, Md. in 1889, 50 > years after the famine. He and one brother emigrated, while one other brother > and their sisters stayed, and my cousins there, as well as others, say that > CO. Wexford was not as affected by the famine, anyhow. My cousin suggests > that since his father got the house, there was no place else to go. But I do > not understand that logic, or culture, as it were. Milli > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: [WEX] Barry Family > Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 16:36:46 -0500 > From: James Cox <jim63@mediaone.net> > To: WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com > > I am a new member and just starting research on my Mother's side of the > family. Her father is James Barry who died in an accident in Boston, > Massachusetts at the age of 56yrs. He, and supposedly twin brother Thomas, > were supposed to be from County Wexford. They would be born about 1877. Both > married Coughlins (Mary and Annie) who are supposed to be from Tipperary. I > believe they got married in Boston. All of them should have been employed by > the CIA. They were very good at keeping secrets about their families. Any > help with this would be greatly appreciated. > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: [WEX] Doyle Family > Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 16:52:25 -0500 > From: "Dann-Online" <dann@dann-online.com> > To: WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com > > I am looking for info on William H. Doyle born Jan 8, 1855....married to > Elizabeth Gallagher ..who was born Nov. 4, 1853. They were possibly born in > county Wexford....or possibly in the US. Some records say that their parents > (and I do not know their names) came over in 1840. > William and Elizabeth had a large family all born in the USA--Mamie (born > 1875), Lizzie (born 1877), Tessie (born 1879), Hugh (born 1882), Patrick > (born 1884), James (born 1892), William O. (born 1886) and twins Frank and > Sadie (born 1889). They settled in Bensen, Minnesota. > I would love some info on the Ireland end---the name of their parents---the > town in Wexford they were from--the name of the ship they came over > on----more about Elizabeth Gallagher's family. Any info would be wonderful ! > Thanks so much !! > Joa Hello in the list of freeholders in the Wexford Independent Nov.1832 there was a Thomas and Richard Rudd Clone and a Thomas from Tomsallagh. [Rudd] .Ithink a Mr Rudd took over the land at Ballynabarnagh .Formmore information please contact me Peter

    02/28/2000 05:36:06
    1. [WEX] Barry Family
    2. James Cox
    3. To the Wexford listers: I discovered today that my Barry relatives are not from Wexford but from Cork. Thanks for the help. I am going to the Cork list.

    02/28/2000 05:07:33
    1. [WEX] NOLAN
    2. Steve Nolan
    3. My name is steve nolan, i am trying to trace details of my grandfather, and his parents and family, for myself and my father . My grandfather when alive said little or nothing about his background, and my father (his son) felt that he may have been the blacksheep of the family. The information that i have pieced together is :- JOHN JOSEPH NOLAN was born in wexford in 1887/8, one of a large family. his father's name was EDWARD NOLAN, a labourer who died before 1915. JOHN JOSEPH was raised by his aunt who later emigrated to the USA as housekeeper for an ambassedor! JOHN JOSEPH visited the USA and served in the USA marines fighting against Mexico, and was discharged in 1910. he was a catholic. he came to Wales and married in 1915. my father was aware that he returned to ireland regularly but where and to visit whom he does not know. I am unable to give any more information, but if anyone can help i would be grateful. steve

    02/28/2000 02:39:50
    1. Re: [WEX] Gananoque/Lansdowne
    2. Michael O'Hanrahan
    3. Hello John, For information on County Wexford immigrants to Newfoundland, I recommend ' A Translantic Merchant Fishery : Richard Walsh of New Ross and the Sweetmans of Newbawn in Newfoundland, 1734-1862.' by John Mannion ( Memorial University, Newfoundland) published in WEXFORD: History and Society. Geography Publications,(Dublin, 1987) ( ISBN 0 906602 0 68). Indeed, I recommend the book for anyone interested in County Wexford history. Michael O'Hanrahan. -----Original Message----- From: John Connors <chrisone@nf.sympatico.ca> To: WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com <WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 28 February 2000 02:14 Subject: Re: [WEX] Gananoque/Lansdowne >Great Question, one which I've asked myself about my ancestors who also >emigrated from County Wexford in 1816 for a small outport in Newfoundland. >After ready a little about Ireland and in particular County Wexford, I've >come to the conclusion that maybe the question needs to asked in perspective >of the conditions in Ireland during this period. I suspect that anything had >to be a great impovement for most who emigrated. > >Regards >John Connors >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ellen" <ellenrudd@ameritech.net> >To: <WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: February 27, 2000 5:30 AM >Subject: [WEX] Gananoque/Lansdowne > > >> Good Heavens! This is the first time I've seen anything on the Wexford >list >> that could remotely tie in to my ancestor, Anthony Rudd, who left Clone, >> Wexford, in 1816, with a few others to settle in Lansdowne/Gananoque, >> Ontario. I used to live over the St. Lawrence River (in NY) from >Gananoque >> and visited several times, meeting ancient distant cousins. I always >> wondered why my ancestor picked such a remote place to go to. The >> settlement was mostly Irish and some Scots. My great grandmother was of >> Scots ancestry. The whole message left me in a muddle since one of my >> direct lines on my MOTHER's side is Robert Lockwood, of Winthrop's Fleet >> fame. What's a Lockwood doing writing a book about people who settled >where >> my father's family settled? And, I'm also in Indiana, USA.... Why did >> people leave Wexford and go to Gananoque? If you've ever been there, even >> in the late 20th century, there's just not a whole lot there. It's very >> rural; farm country. Pretty. Isolated. It's main claim to fame is a lot >> of tour boats leave from there for trips around the Thousand Islands, but >I >> don't think that was a draw in 1816. If anyone has the book, are there >any >> Rudds involved? >> >> Ellen Rudd >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Greg Finnegan <finnegan@fas.harvard.edu> >> To: <WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 3:18 PM >> Subject: [WEX] Musgrave Source & Webster history >> >> >> > Re those seeking Musgrave--the modern reprint was from a small >> > (kitchen-table?) press in Indiana USA, so possibly outside even >> > Amazon.com's massive list. The book is listed for sale by a Canadian >> > genealogy book/etc vendor: >> > >> > http://globalgenealogy.com/ireland.htm >> > >> > SIR RICHARD MUSGRAVE'S MEMOIRS OF THE IRISH REBELLION OF 1798 - Most >> > important contemporary published source on the insurrection led by the >> > United Irishman. More information >> > >> > CAT #239001 ..........$79.99 Canadian Dollars >> > >> > The book IS *invaluable*, but is highly biased; the modern reprint has a >> > good introduction explaining that, as well as having a much more >complete >> > index than the original editions. But while the book details massive >> > numbers of Wexford Protestant casualties, the main list of same (as >> > distinct from incidents discussed in the text itself) is the list of >those >> > claiming compensation. So for those of us descended from Robert WEBSTER, >> > hoisted on pikes and tossed from the Enniscorthy bridge--that incident >> > isn't discussed. The burning of Robert's house (and his brother's) IS >> > mentioned--but he doesn't show up in the victim roster except that his >> > widow's need for support is listed--but he isn't named even there, as >the >> > focus was naming those compensated, who were necessarily survivors. >> > >> > The Enniscorthy Bridge incident *IS* discussed on pp. 138-139 of Glenn >J. >> > LOCKWOOD, THE REAR OF LEEDS & LANSDOWNE: THE MAKING OF COMMUNITY ON THE >> > GANANOQUE RIVER FRONTIER, 1796-1996, published in 1996 by the >Corporation >> > of the Township of the Rear of Leeds and Lansdowne, PO Box 160, >Lyndhurst, >> > ON. Lockwood takes the several paragraphs he quotes from "anonymous, >> > WEBSTER [family history] (gestetnered manuscript and family tree, n.d.)" >> > loaned to him. The same text, word for word, is also found on pp. 21-22 >> of >> > THE TEN BROTHERS: A GENEALOGY OF THE LEECH FAMILY TOGETHER WITH A SHORT >> > BIOGRAPHY OF THE 10 BROTHERS, PUBLISHED 1951--tho' the preface is signed >> J. >> > Hillyard LEECH, KC, Winnipeg MN, March 8th 1929. The 10 brothers in >> > question, developers of Gorrie (sic) Ontario in the 1850's-70's, were >sons >> > of Barbara WEBSTER, dau. of the Robert killed on the bridge. >> > >> > Greg Finnegan >> > Seeking Palatine POOLEs (Ram estates, Gorey), JOHNSTON (exact location >in >> > N. WEX unknown), LEECH, and WEBSTER (Garrybrit.) >> > >> > Gregory A. Finnegan, PhD >> > Associate Librarian for Public Services >> > and Head of Reference >> > Tozzer Library >> > Harvard University >> > 21 Divinity Avenue >> > Cambridge MA 02138-2089 >> > 617-495-2253 fax 617-496-2741 >> > gregory_finnegan@harvard.edu >> > >> > "...have mercy on us all --Presbyterians and Pagans alike -- for we are >> all >> > somehow dreadfully cracked about the head, and sadly need mending." >> > MOBY-DICK, chapter 17. >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >______________________________

    02/28/2000 12:27:27
    1. Re: [WEX] Gananoque/Lansdowne
    2. Robert Carley
    3. With my limited knowledge of what happened back then, I believe it was the English government that made land available in Canada to settlers from Ireland who were loyal to the crown. I assume this would have been publicized throughout Ireland (or certain areas of Ireland), and probably targeted to specific groups of Irish. The English government wanted to populate Canada, mainly as a defence against the United States (War of 1812), and for other reasons obviously. Anyway, that's my lay explanation of what happened :-) Robert Carley (of Wexford Carleys) Guelph, Ontario Ellen wrote: > > After I hit the send key, I did think that I didn't communicate what I meant > to say and had a glimmer I'd sounded offensive. I loved northern NY, the > Thousand Islands, and my distant cousins in the G/L area. It is beautiful > country. There is NOT a lot of industry and that isn't a criticism. I am > still puzzled about how people in a rural area in Ireland in 1816 heard > about a rural area in any other location, even in Ireland, let alone across > the ocean. It was a thoughtless communication written when I was tired. > It's not fair to globally insult Americans, either, because I made a > thoughtless comment. I don't think a lot of *my* culture is superior. I > wish my ancestors had remained farmers and still lived in G/L. It's a hell > of a lot prettier than where I live. And, there's much about Canadian > government and services I find superior to ours. So, my deep apologies for > having written offensively. It was truly unintended. Anyone who has ever > been to the Thousand Islands, on either side of the river, knows how > incredibly beautiful the area is. But, how did someone in 1816 Clone, > Wexford, know about it? That was my question however ill put. > > Sincere apologies.....Ellen Rudd > ----- Original Message ----- > From: M Hankins <mandf.hankins@sympatico.ca> > To: Ellen <ellenrudd@ameritech.net> > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 1:40 PM > Subject: RE: [WEX] Gananoque/Lansdowne > > > Dear Ellen, > > I don't know whether you realize how incredibly patronizing your remarks > are > > to the people who still live in this area. I know Americans think what > they > > have is superior - and are not shy about saying so - but surely to insult > > your ancestors and the present inhabitants of the area - worldwide yet!- > is > > going a bit far. > > Adele > > > > > > > > < Why did > > people leave Wexford and go to Gananoque? If you've ever been there, even > > in the late 20th century, there's just not a whole lot there. It's very > > rural; farm country. Pretty. Isolated. It's main claim to fame is a lot > > of tour boats leave from there for trips around the Thousand Islands, but > I > > don't think that was a draw in 1816. > > > Ellen Rudd > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Greg Finnegan <finnegan@fas.harvard.edu> > > To: <WEXFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 3:18 PM > > Subject: [WEX] Musgrave Source & Webster history > > > > > > > Re those seeking Musgrave--the modern reprint was from a small > > > (kitchen-table?) press in Indiana USA, so possibly outside even > > > Amazon.com's massive list. The book is listed for sale by a Canadian > > > genealogy book/etc vendor: > > > > > > http://globalgenealogy.com/ireland.htm > > > > > > SIR RICHARD MUSGRAVE'S MEMOIRS OF THE IRISH REBELLION OF 1798 - Most > > > important contemporary published source on the insurrection led by the > > > United Irishman. More information > > > > > > CAT #239001 ..........$79.99 Canadian Dollars > > > > > > The book IS *invaluable*, but is highly biased; the modern reprint has a > > > good introduction explaining that, as well as having a much more > complete > > > index than the original editions. But while the book details massive > > > numbers of Wexford Protestant casualties, the main list of same (as > > > distinct from incidents discussed in the text itself) is the list of > those > > > claiming compensation. So for those of us descended from Robert WEBSTER, > > > hoisted on pikes and tossed from the Enniscorthy bridge--that incident > > > isn't discussed. The burning of Robert's house (and his brother's) IS > > > mentioned--but he doesn't show up in the victim roster except that his > > > widow's need for support is listed--but he isn't named even there, as > the > > > focus was naming those compensated, who were necessarily survivors. > > > > > > The Enniscorthy Bridge incident *IS* discussed on pp. 138-139 of Glenn > J. > > > LOCKWOOD, THE REAR OF LEEDS & LANSDOWNE: THE MAKING OF COMMUNITY ON THE > > > GANANOQUE RIVER FRONTIER, 1796-1996, published in 1996 by the > Corporation > > > of the Township of the Rear of Leeds and Lansdowne, PO Box 160, > Lyndhurst, > > > ON. Lockwood takes the several paragraphs he quotes from "anonymous, > > > WEBSTER [family history] (gestetnered manuscript and family tree, n.d.)" > > > loaned to him. The same text, word for word, is also found on pp. 21-22 > > of > > > THE TEN BROTHERS: A GENEALOGY OF THE LEECH FAMILY TOGETHER WITH A SHORT > > > BIOGRAPHY OF THE 10 BROTHERS, PUBLISHED 1951--tho' the preface is signed > > J. > > > Hillyard LEECH, KC, Winnipeg MN, March 8th 1929. The 10 brothers in > > > question, developers of Gorrie (sic) Ontario in the 1850's-70's, were > sons > > > of Barbara WEBSTER, dau. of the Robert killed on the bridge. > > > > > > Greg Finnegan > > > Seeking Palatine POOLEs (Ram estates, Gorey), JOHNSTON (exact location > in > > > N. WEX unknown), LEECH, and WEBSTER (Garrybrit.) > > > > > > Gregory A. Finnegan, PhD > > > Associate Librarian for Public Services > > > and Head of Reference > > > Tozzer Library > > > Harvard University > > > 21 Divinity Avenue > > > Cambridge MA 02138-2089 > > > 617-495-2253 fax 617-496-2741 > > > gregory_finnegan@harvard.edu > > > > > > "...have mercy on us all --Presbyterians and Pagans alike -- for we are > > all > > > somehow dreadfully cracked about the head, and sadly need mending." > > > MOBY-DICK, chapter 17. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________ > >

    02/28/2000 11:44:02