Rose, In every forum like this there is always a Job's Comforter and today that is my role. From my own experience of transcribing in 'my' area of Glenbrien there are Connors, Connor, and O'Connor all definitely the same family living in the same place over a period of 20 years, depending on who wrote down the surname at the time and for what purpose. I respectfully suggest that you widen your search a little to check these variants out and you might strike lucky. Alan

Rose, After checking out the Civil Registrations for the area for this time period the only one that looks a possibility is this: Mary Ann CONNORS b.12th. May 1887 Ballycanew, Gorey, Co. Wexford. Father: William CONNORS, Occupation Groom. Mother: Mary CRANWELL Registration Cert is available for this one. If his occupation, is given as a groom, it doesn't mean that he wasn't employed as an undertaker. It's quite possible that he was an actual groom (in charge of the horse and carriage) for the undertaker, as an employee. slan Cyril Newsome Loch Garman ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 10:15 AM Subject: [WEX] Connor of Wexford > Hi, > > I am desparately seeking information on my grandmother Mary Ann Connor born > about 1888 in the Ballycanew/Ballycanew area. Her father was a William Connor > an Undertaker. Her mothers name is not known but her surname might have been > O'Rioden. > > My grandmother died when my father was only nine years old so we know very > little about her or her family. All my dad could recall was that she came from > Ballycanew in Wexford. She married in Birmingham in 1920 Frederick Russell. > > I have not been able to find her birth registered in the civil authorities > after searching for ALL Mary Ann/Mary Connors born within a few years of that > date and I am now begining to wonder whether her birth was registered at all. > So, I must look for a baptism entry. She was Roman Catholic so, can anyone > tell me where I will find the registers for Ballycanew and surrounding parishes > about 1880s? I have searched on the internet and can find very little on > Ballycanew. > > Kind regards, > > Rose > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > DO NOT post virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, etc. > > >

Hi Alan, Yes, I must widen my search for other variants of the name Connor as you suggested. I'm not sure whether I did this or not when I went through the extracts of the civil registration at the LDS (it was many years ago now). But I do know from my English and Welsh genealogy research that the surname was often written down how the incumbent THOUGHT it sounded, so one can end up with very many variants. If I widen my search I will probably find I have a VERY LARGE family out there in Wexford! Kind regards, Rose

Dear Aileen, Thank you so much for your response to my query. I did pay a researcher a few years ago to look up the 1901 census for me and he responded that he could not find anyone who matched the criteria. I will do a search at the LDS for myself. Thank you once again, Kind regards, Rose

Dear Cyril, I am amazed!!!! and so excited. It has taken me years and years to find that infomation and that MaryAnn Connor is not listed on the Civil entries at the copies of civil registration at the LDS Family History Centres. That definitely looks like the right Mary Ann. I will now obtain a copy of her entry from Dublin. Thank you once again. Kind regards, Rose

Hi, I am desparately seeking information on my grandmother Mary Ann Connor born about 1888 in the Ballycanew/Ballycanew area. Her father was a William Connor an Undertaker. Her mothers name is not known but her surname might have been O'Rioden. My grandmother died when my father was only nine years old so we know very little about her or her family. All my dad could recall was that she came from Ballycanew in Wexford. She married in Birmingham in 1920 Frederick Russell. I have not been able to find her birth registered in the civil authorities after searching for ALL Mary Ann/Mary Connors born within a few years of that date and I am now begining to wonder whether her birth was registered at all. So, I must look for a baptism entry. She was Roman Catholic so, can anyone tell me where I will find the registers for Ballycanew and surrounding parishes about 1880s? I have searched on the internet and can find very little on Ballycanew. Kind regards, Rose

Hi Aileen If you can get alook at these films 852470 and 852469 of 1901 census for around Wexford there are five or six family's of Butler's and afew living in other houses . Jeff

Marriages St Patrick RC Church, Park Place, Liverpool 19 May 1863 John Murphy - Egerton Street s/o Patrick & Ellen - Wexford to Ellen Costello - Canning Street d/o John & Mary - London Wit: John Rogers - Wright Street/Catherine Morgan - Canning Street 28 October 1863 Bernard Murphy - Hughes Street s/o James & Eliza - Co Wexford to Winifred Blake - Seacombe d/o Mathew & Elizabeth - Co Meath Wit: Martin Tobin - Seacombe/Elizabeth Dunn - Liscard 25 June 1864 Michael Ryan - Mann Street s/o William & Frances - Wexford to Elizabeth Ryan - Mann Street d/o James & Mary - Mann Street Wit: Robert Tweedy ? - Wexford/Mary Ann Thompson - Grafton Street 21 September 1864 Maurice Devereux - Mann Street s/o Alexander & Alice (father dead) - Wexford to Ellen Delahunty - Mann Street d/o Richard & Mary (dead) - Wit: Hugh Rooney - Stanhope Street/Mary Murphy - Warwick Street 7 October 1865 Henry Veneey ? - Wexford, Hibernia s/o Mathew & Sara - to Johanna Wolahan - Wexford d/o John & Winifred - Wit: Moses Ryan - /Ann Boyne - 1 December 1866 Richard Robinson - Wexford s/o James & Maria - to Catherine Brian - vidua - Enniscarty d/o Laurence & Ellen Sutton - Wit: James Pender -/Johanna Davis - 28 December 1866 Henry Blackler - Torquay s/o Samuel & Elizabeth - to Elizabeth Foley - Wexford d/o Patrick & Catherine Wit: Bernard Kay -/Mary Foley - 25 November 1867 Robert Christian ? - 70 Park Street s/o William - to Maria Donohue - 2 George St, Toxteth Park d/o Thomas - Glenmore, Co Wexford Wit: James & Mary Gick - 22 Sherry Street 19 January 1870 Patrick Kavanagh - 82 Wolfe Street s/o Patrick - to Ellen Power - 82 Wolfe Street d/o Michael - Turkhill, Co Wexford Wit: Thomas Sutton - 82 Wolfe Street/Anna Power - 112 Bedford Street 14 April 1875 John Nicholas Keating - Glenbrien, Wexford s/o Nicholas - to Margaret Quinn - Upper Hill Street d/o John - Wit: James Quinn - Cressington Park, Aigburth/Elizabeth Clarke - Boundary Street end of identifiable Wexford strays in this Church. Eileen

Due to being ill I am not sure if I have sent everyone their attached Murphys Could you be kind enough to remind me if I have not done that for you yet.............preferably off the list so as not to clog it Cheers ©Cara_Links Researching Co.Wicklow,Wexford. A headstone or two, three A friend is one who accepts your past,loves you as you are, and belives in all of your tomorrow's. Please remind me if I have not done that job for you, my intentions are always good, but sometimes time runs out on me, so I leave it up to you to remind me.

I have updated the Ireland books section of my website. New books have been added in all sections: Parish History, Local History, Genealogy, History, Fiction. New volunteers have also been added to do lookups in the books. You can find the links by going to the URL below my name. At the top of my homepage, under Ireland, click on Ireland Books. That will take you to the Ireland Books Discussion Mailing List website. At the bottom of that page, you will find links to both the Parish History Books and to the Ireland Book List. If you would like to add books to this website, just use the convenient forms at the bottom of all the book pages. If you would like to volunteer to do lookups, just email me off list. If your email address has changed and you are a lookup volunteer, please write me off list, giving the the book category and title. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Cara >I thought I gave you her marriage > 15/7/1860 to Oliverium Archbold or you simply looking for parents etc > ...........both from ballintim > > . Yes you did ,I was just hoping Oliver (Oliverium) may happen to show up > in another family research like Murphy.It may help to find them in 1901 > census Thank again Jeff

Great site to explain it all http://www.sip.ie/sip019B/bumbs/tempering.htm Cheers cara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara_Links" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 5:02 PM Subject: [WEX] LAMBERT >P Lambert, Coal, Culm & salt ( what is Culm)? > and wine and Spirit merchant > yard stores etc > Trinity Street and Paul Quay Wexford > Large advert should you like a scan > > John Lambert is a Wholesale and retail Grocer etc etc has Warehouse Market > street and new Street Enniscorthy > large advert should you like ascan > > Wexford 1885 > Magistrate > Henry Lambert - Tan-y-Graig Anglesey > > John Lambert Cousinstown > Stephen Lambert farmer and land owner - Killilane > > Killinick in the Barony of Forth > Famer and land owner -William Lambert - Ballyboy > > Kilmore > farmers and land owners > John Lambert - Ballask > Patrick Lambert -Ballask > > Kilrane > farmers and land owners > Stephen Lambert -Killelane > > Kyle > farmers and land owners > James Lambert -Killowen > John Lambert -Newcastle > Matthew Lambert- Killowen > Patrick Lambert -Ballydicken > Robert Lambert - no place name noted > > Murrintown > farmer and land owners > Henry Lambert - Quanstown > > Tacumshane > Farmers and land owners > John Lambert - Sigginstown > > Kiltealy > Farmers and landowners > Patrick Lambert -Ballyrannell > > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > The Wexford Surnames List can be found at > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/wexford.html > >

I thought I gave you her marriage 15/7/1860 to Oliverium Archbold or you simply looking for parents etc ...........both from ballintim Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Butler" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 11:29 AM Subject: [WEX] Murphy > Hello > With everone looking for MURPHY if anyone finds a MARIA MURPHY married > 15 July 1860 in Camolin Parish .I would be happy with the infiormation . > Jeff > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > DO NOT post virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, etc. > >

Seems to be a game we've all seen, whether in Ireland or indeed England, who took it across the sea in which direction? Best wishes to "our lister" hope you are soon fit and well. Mary -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: 11/13/05 06:55:39 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WEX] HAVE YOU HEARD OF THE NEW -OT Gee, Cara, that game is being played all over Ireland. It's called Irish triage. Janet On 11/12/05, Cara_Links <[email protected]> wrote: > > Game they have been playing in Wexford its called > *Get a hospital bed* then they steal it off you give you another then they > give that away for you and you end up sleeping on a trolley .........or is > that a gurney > > Seems one of our listers is happy to be home in his own bed again, and > sleeping more comfortable tonight -------hurry up and get off that Zimmer > frame my friend or there will be no ice-creams for you in 2006. > > > So get up and get on with researching and get well. > > Cara > > > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > DO NOT post virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, etc. > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== Wexford List Guidelines http://wexford-l.blogspot.com/

Cara, Thanks for this info on the Parles of Wexford. My Parle ancestors were from the Deeps area in Wexford. --John Parle, Michigan, USA

Thanks to the people who replied to my question re: ennis or innis. sandra

After reading that very interesting article about the grinding of culm, I still didn't know what culm was until I found this definition online: Ann in Iowa Culm \Culm\, n. [Perh. from W. cwlm knot or tie, applied to this species of coal, which is much found in balls or knots in some parts of Wales: cf. OE. culme smoke, soot.] (Min.) (a) Mineral coal that is not bituminous; anthracite, especially when found in small masses. (b) The waste of the Pennsylvania anthracite mines, consisting of fine coal, dust, etc., and used as fuel. -- Raymond. [1913 Webster] At 12:57 AM 11/13/2005, Cara_Links wrote: >Great site to explain it all >http://www.sip.ie/sip019B/bumbs/tempering.htm > > >Cheers >cara >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Cara_Links" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 5:02 PM >Subject: [WEX] LAMBERT > > > >P Lambert, Coal, Culm & salt ( what is Culm)? > > and wine and Spirit merchant > > yard stores etc > > Trinity Street and Paul Quay Wexford > > Large advert should you like a scan > > > > John Lambert is a Wholesale and retail Grocer etc etc has Warehouse Market > > street and new Street Enniscorthy > > large advert should you like ascan > > > > Wexford 1885 > > Magistrate > > Henry Lambert - Tan-y-Graig Anglesey > > > > John Lambert Cousinstown > > Stephen Lambert farmer and land owner - Killilane > > > > Killinick in the Barony of Forth > > Famer and land owner -William Lambert - Ballyboy > > > > Kilmore > > farmers and land owners > > John Lambert - Ballask > > Patrick Lambert -Ballask > > > > Kilrane > > farmers and land owners > > Stephen Lambert -Killelane > > > > Kyle > > farmers and land owners > > James Lambert -Killowen > > John Lambert -Newcastle > > Matthew Lambert- Killowen > > Patrick Lambert -Ballydicken > > Robert Lambert - no place name noted > > > > Murrintown > > farmer and land owners > > Henry Lambert - Quanstown > > > > Tacumshane > > Farmers and land owners > > John Lambert - Sigginstown > > > > Kiltealy > > Farmers and landowners > > Patrick Lambert -Ballyrannell > > > > > > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > > The Wexford Surnames List can be found at > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/wexford.html > > > > > > > > >==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== >The Wexford Surnames List can be found at >http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/wexford.html

Gee, Cara, that game is being played all over Ireland. It's called Irish triage. Janet On 11/12/05, Cara_Links <[email protected]> wrote: > > Game they have been playing in Wexford its called > *Get a hospital bed* then they steal it off you give you another then they > give that away for you and you end up sleeping on a trolley .........or is > that a gurney > > Seems one of our listers is happy to be home in his own bed again, and > sleeping more comfortable tonight -------hurry up and get off that Zimmer > frame my friend or there will be no ice-creams for you in 2006. > > > So get up and get on with researching and get well. > > Cara > > > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > DO NOT post virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, etc. > >

Game they have been playing in Wexford its called *Get a hospital bed* then they steal it off you give you another then they give that away for you and you end up sleeping on a trolley .........or is that a gurney Seems one of our listers is happy to be home in his own bed again, and sleeping more comfortable tonight -------hurry up and get off that Zimmer frame my friend or there will be no ice-creams for you in 2006. So get up and get on with researching and get well. Cara

I have sent off the scans and this is the ones I have typed up hope they are of use to you all the source being sent out with the scans .......... Farmers and Landowners 1885 ( Bassetts) All with the surname Murphy BALLYCOGLEY Michael-Ballygullick John - Loughgunnen James- Lyngstown John -Robinstown BRIDGETOWN James- Lake John _Bridgetown North P - St Tennants CHURCHTOWN James Snr. And Jnr.-Nethertown Alexander-Chower Edmond -Nethertown John - nil Mat-Casteltown Cottage Mrs- Netherton Mrs- Pullington Mrs.- Ring Nicholas -Mooretown Patrick-Hilltown Patrick- Nineacre Patrick- St Vogh William -Ballylane DUNCORMICK James-Robinstown Mary A- Gibberpatrick J jnr. Robinstown Martin-Soughane Patrick-Glebe Richard -Horesland KILLINICK A-Coddstown Little N---Coddstown Great KILLURIN Daniel -Rowestown Simon-Ballyboggan KILMORE William -Chapel KILRANE James- Ballygeary Martin-Hayesland Patrick-Newhouse KYLE Peter- Deeps MURRINTOWN James- Albintown Patrick - St Vogues Richard- Milltown Richard - Plot TACUMSHANE A- Crylough James- Ballyhigho Jnr. Muchtown Nicholas -Coddstown Pk- Hilltown Peter- Ballytory Wm. Reedstown TAGOAT Edward -Brittas James- Muckranstown P- Ballyell Little Thomas- Blunsheen NEWROSS DISTRICT All with the surname MURPHY Farmers and Landowners BALLYCULLANE Laurence -Kinnagh L Jnr. -Kinnagh Patrick - Kinnagh BALLYNABOOLA David -Cushentown James -Tinnecarrig James-Tinnecarrig BALLYWILLIAM David -Ballybanogue John- Ballynaberna Mathew -Ballygalvert Ellen -Ballnaberna Philip- Ballycoher Richard-Templeudigan Thomas-Ballygalvert Mrs.-Bolacoher BANNOW Margaret -Lacken John - Lacken FOULKESMILL L- Ballylannon Luke- Ballyclemock Martin- Ballylannon Richard- Horetown N PALACE John- Knockroe ENNISCORTHY TAGHMON John- Haperstown Denis - Ballyshelin James- Poulmarle James-Wilkinstown John-Bricketstown Owen -Hayestown Richard -Coolow ARTHURSTOWN AND BALLYHACK James -Ramsgrange Patrick - Tullarst Peter- Ballycelick William _Ballyhack FETHARD Andrew - Fethard SALTMILLS Michael-Gurtins FERNS James -Clondaw Peter -Tomsallagh BALLYCARNEY Pierce-Tomanoul CAMOLIN E- Kilcoran W- Monasootha CLOHAMON Gregory- Ballinaberney J ( J.P. & Coroner) -Ryl R-Ballinaberney NEWTOWNBARRY TEMPLESHAMBO Mrs - Wheelagour Mrs Mohurry ? Arthur - Kilcullen Hugh -Kilcullen C H - Kilcullen House BLACKWATER in the Barony of Ballaghkeen S/E of Enniscorthy George - Ballyvaloo CASTLEBRIDGE Andrew- Ballycrane COURT-TOWN HARBOUR John -Bolaney CURRACLOE E- Ballenacoolamore James-Curracloe J Jnr.- Coolrainey Joseph - Ballinamurrigh Patrick -Ballinacoolmore Patrick-Barnahask KILMUCKRIDGE Stepehen-Ballyadam LISKENFRERE OR CLOUGH Daniel -Ballynamonabeg MONAMOLIN Moses- Mounthoward Lower OULART M - Garrybran WELLS Edward- Tomgarrow James P -Ballyvadden John -Ballymorrow Wm.- Ballymorrow