Sorry Marilyn, I forgot to add the mileage from Enniscorthy to Ballypracus which is 12.2 miles. slan Cyril Newsome Loch Garman... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cyril Newsome" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 2:52 AM Subject: Re: [WEX] Re: SHANAHAN in Wexford > Marilyn at [email protected] writes: > > "What is Enniscorthy called, in relation to Ballprecas, or are they not > involved with each other at all?" > > Marilyn, > > Better known as the Townland of "Ballypracus" (note the spelling), is > located about a mile outside of Bunclody (also known as Newtownbarry) on the > Kiltealy road. Ballypracus is just that, a Townland. > > Bunclody itself is a Town, with it's own RC Parish of Holy Trinity, no > doubt the records for here are held on film in the Wexford Library, I have > never had need to look them up to be honest. > > Enniscorthy is a Town also, (some people refer to it as a City) and really > the only connection with Ballypracus (Ballyprecas as you call it) is the > fact that it (Ballypracus), falls within the Enniscorthy PLU. > > The Parish records for Newtownbarry (or Bunclody) which will include those > of Ballypracus are as follows: > > Baptisms from: 1834-Nov.1st. 1851, April 26th. 1857-Dec.29th 1880. > > Marriages from: May 20th. 1834-June 29th. 1880 > > Burials for: 1834, 1857-58 and 1872-73. > > > The Anglican (COI) Church, is that of St. Mary (Records of births deaths and > marriages are recorded from 1799 in Bunclody Parish). > > slan > Cyril Newsome > Loch Garman > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 12:22 AM > Subject: Re: [WEX] Re: SHANAHAN in Wexford > > > > Marilyn at [email protected] writes: > > > > > What is Enniscorthy called, in relation to Ballprecas, or are they not > > involved with each other at all? < > > > > Marilyn, > > > > There's really no connection - they're at least 10 miles apart. The only > > thing they have in common is that they are located in a parish with St. > Mary's in > > its name. There are 9 counties with St. Mary's parishes in > them......Wexford > > happens to have three (the third is New Ross). > > > > > Someone should change the original book location. < > > > > I'm not sure that it is incorrect in the book - "The General Alphabetical > > Index of Townlands and Towns, Parish and Baronies of Ireland", based on > the 1851 > > census. I don't have a copy of it. But the entry in the IreAtlas website > is > > definitely incorrect. > > I've given-up sending corrections to the webmaster....nothing seems to > change. > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > - > > Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western > Massachusetts > > > > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > > DO NOT post virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, etc. > > > > > > > > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > The Wexford Surnames List can be found at > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/wexford.html > >

Marilyn at [email protected] writes: "What is Enniscorthy called, in relation to Ballprecas, or are they not involved with each other at all?" Marilyn, Better known as the Townland of "Ballypracus" (note the spelling), is located about a mile outside of Bunclody (also known as Newtownbarry) on the Kiltealy road. Ballypracus is just that, a Townland. Bunclody itself is a Town, with it's own RC Parish of Holy Trinity, no doubt the records for here are held on film in the Wexford Library, I have never had need to look them up to be honest. Enniscorthy is a Town also, (some people refer to it as a City) and really the only connection with Ballypracus (Ballyprecas as you call it) is the fact that it (Ballypracus), falls within the Enniscorthy PLU. The Parish records for Newtownbarry (or Bunclody) which will include those of Ballypracus are as follows: Baptisms from: 1834-Nov.1st. 1851, April 26th. 1857-Dec.29th 1880. Marriages from: May 20th. 1834-June 29th. 1880 Burials for: 1834, 1857-58 and 1872-73. The Anglican (COI) Church, is that of St. Mary (Records of births deaths and marriages are recorded from 1799 in Bunclody Parish). slan Cyril Newsome Loch Garman ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 12:22 AM Subject: Re: [WEX] Re: SHANAHAN in Wexford > Marilyn at [email protected] writes: > > > What is Enniscorthy called, in relation to Ballprecas, or are they not > involved with each other at all? < > > Marilyn, > > There's really no connection - they're at least 10 miles apart. The only > thing they have in common is that they are located in a parish with St. Mary's in > its name. There are 9 counties with St. Mary's parishes in them......Wexford > happens to have three (the third is New Ross). > > > Someone should change the original book location. < > > I'm not sure that it is incorrect in the book - "The General Alphabetical > Index of Townlands and Towns, Parish and Baronies of Ireland", based on the 1851 > census. I don't have a copy of it. But the entry in the IreAtlas website is > definitely incorrect. > I've given-up sending corrections to the webmaster....nothing seems to change. > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > DO NOT post virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, etc. > > >

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Marilyn at [email protected] writes: > What is Enniscorthy called, in relation to Ballprecas, or are they not involved with each other at all? < Marilyn, There's really no connection - they're at least 10 miles apart. The only thing they have in common is that they are located in a parish with St. Mary's in its name. There are 9 counties with St. Mary's parishes in them......Wexford happens to have three (the third is New Ross). > Someone should change the original book location. < I'm not sure that it is incorrect in the book - "The General Alphabetical Index of Townlands and Towns, Parish and Baronies of Ireland", based on the 1851 census. I don't have a copy of it. But the entry in the IreAtlas website is definitely incorrect. I've given-up sending corrections to the webmaster....nothing seems to change. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

Thanks Pete. I thought there was some thing amiss. So many "Bally" towns. What is Enniscorthy called, in relation to Ballprecas, or are they not involved with each other at all? Been to Enniscorthy, but did not locate a Ballyprecas. Now I know why..... Someone should change the original book location. Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 4:47 PM Subject: [WEX] Re: SHANAHAN in Wexford > Marilyn, > > You're partially right - Ballyprecas is 943 acres and in St. Mary's... > but > not Enniscorthy, civil parish. It's St. Mary's, Newtownbarry civil > parish > (the Seanruad website is wrong on this one - and maybe the original book, > too). > Ballyprecas is located just a mile south of Bunclody, on the Carlow > border. > It caused me a doubletake, too. My first thought was that it was an > alternative name for Enniscorthy townland, which is 934 acres. I said, > "OK, someone's > reversed the last two figures". Then I did some more searching, and found > it > near Bunclody. > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > - > Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western > Massachusetts > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > To do a search of the Wexford Archives go to > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

Marilyn, You're partially right - Ballyprecas is 943 acres and in St. Mary's... but not Enniscorthy, civil parish. It's St. Mary's, Newtownbarry civil parish (the Seanruad website is wrong on this one - and maybe the original book, too). Ballyprecas is located just a mile south of Bunclody, on the Carlow border. It caused me a doubletake, too. My first thought was that it was an alternative name for Enniscorthy townland, which is 934 acres. I said, "OK, someone's reversed the last two figures". Then I did some more searching, and found it near Bunclody. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

And Ballyhoge in the Parish of Bree? I've never been there myself, but I don't think it's too far from Enniscorthy. Kathy -----Original Message----- From: Cyril Newsome [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:39 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WEX] SHANAHAN in Wexford Hi Marilyn, The only Townlands that are "Bally" anything, in and around the Enniscorthy area are the following Townlands for the respective Parishes and ALL within the Enniscorthy Poor Law Union.. Within the Parish of St. Mary's Enniscorthy: Ballynahallin Within the adjoining Parish of Ballycarney you have: Ballingale, Ballinturner (or Mountfin Lower), Ballyboy, Ballycarney, Ballyduff and Ballymorgan. Within the adjoining Parish of Clone you have: Ballydawmore, Ballydonigan, BallySimon and Balymurtagh. Within the adjoining Parish of Monart you have: Ballinure, Ballybranis, Ballydaw (or Davidstown), Ballynakill, Ballynelahillan, Ballyorril and Ballywilliamroe. In the adjoining Parish of St. John's (Bantry) you have: Ballynapierce. Finally, in the adjoining Parish of Templeshannon you have: Ballydawmore and Ballynabarney. slan Cyril Newsome Loch Garman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Shanahan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 8:09 PM Subject: [WEX] SHANAHAN in Wexford > Does anyone on the list connect to the following... > Birth Location was Ballprecas Townland of County Wexford, Barony of Scarawalsh, Civil parish St. Mary's Enniscorthy, Poor Lawn Union: Enniscorthy > PATRICK SHANAHAN married to Eliza ( maiden name unknown) > Approximate birth: 1830 > Approximate Death: 1860 > ELIZA SHANAHAN immigrated to US in 1855 > Settled eventually in Chicago, Ill. > Thank you > M. Shanahan > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > To do a search of the Wexford Archives go to > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: [email protected] (if you are in mail mode i.e. receiving the messages individually or want them individually) or [email protected] (if you are in digest mode i.e. receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode)

Well to be more concise with the answer Marilyn you have the following acreages for the various Townlands: Within the Parish of St. Mary's Enniscorthy: Ballynahallin (358 acres) Within the adjoining Parish of Ballycarney you have: Ballingale (358 acres), Ballinturner (or Mountfin Lower) (437 acres), Ballyboy (506 acres), Ballycarney (739 acres), Ballyduff (332 acres) and Ballymorgan (112 acres). Within the adjoining Parish of Clone you have: Ballydawmore (187 acres), Ballydonigan (271 acres), BallySimon (310) and Ballymurtagh (195 acres). Within the adjoining Parish of Monart you have: Ballinure (284 acres), Ballybrannis (149 acres), Ballydaw (or Davidstown) (328 acres), Ballynakill (824 acres), Ballynelahillan (sorry I have no acreages for this one), Ballyorril (or this one) and Ballywilliamroe (232 acres). In the adjoining Parish of St. John's (Bantry) you have: Ballynapierce (385acres). Finally, in the adjoining Parish of Templeshannon you have: Ballydawmore (49 acres) and Ballynabarney (466 acres). As you can see there is nothing there (other than my omissions) that would indicate anything like the acreages you specify? Sorry I cannot be of more help to you at this stage. slan Cyril Newsome Loch Garman. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Shanahan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [WEX] SHANAHAN in Wexford > Well Cyril....You could knock me over, because I did not know any of this. > The information I got was from ancestry.com, who told me that they did not > have any further information. Also, I knew Ballyprecas was something like > 943 acres, being sort of large for a townland. I guess I just will never > know exactly which of the "Bally" anythings, the Shanahans came from. Good > to know, I'm at another rather large "fork" in the road of research. > M. Shanahan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cyril Newsome" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:39 AM > Subject: Re: [WEX] SHANAHAN in Wexford > > > > Hi Marilyn, > > > > The only Townlands that are "Bally" anything, in and around the > > Enniscorthy > > area are the following Townlands for the respective Parishes and ALL > > within > > the Enniscorthy Poor Law Union.. > > > > Within the Parish of St. Mary's Enniscorthy: > > Ballynahallin > > > > Within the adjoining Parish of Ballycarney you have: > > Ballingale, Ballinturner (or Mountfin Lower), Ballyboy, Ballycarney, > > Ballyduff and Ballymorgan. > > > > Within the adjoining Parish of Clone you have: > > Ballydawmore, Ballydonigan, BallySimon and Balymurtagh. > > > > Within the adjoining Parish of Monart you have: > > Ballinure, Ballybranis, Ballydaw (or Davidstown), Ballynakill, > > Ballynelahillan, Ballyorril and Ballywilliamroe. > > > > In the adjoining Parish of St. John's (Bantry) you have: > > Ballynapierce. > > > > Finally, in the adjoining Parish of Templeshannon you have: > > Ballydawmore and Ballynabarney. > > > > > > slan > > Cyril Newsome > > Loch Garman > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Marilyn Shanahan" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 8:09 PM > > Subject: [WEX] SHANAHAN in Wexford > > > > > >> Does anyone on the list connect to the following... > >> Birth Location was Ballprecas Townland of County Wexford, Barony of > > Scarawalsh, Civil parish St. Mary's Enniscorthy, Poor Lawn Union: > > Enniscorthy > >> PATRICK SHANAHAN married to Eliza ( maiden name unknown) > >> Approximate birth: 1830 > >> Approximate Death: 1860 > >> ELIZA SHANAHAN immigrated to US in 1855 > >> Settled eventually in Chicago, Ill. > >> Thank you > >> M. Shanahan > >> > >> > >> ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > >> To do a search of the Wexford Archives go to > >> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > > To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: > > > > [email protected] (if you are in mail mode i.e. receiving > > the messages > > individually or want them individually) > > > > or > > > > [email protected] (if you are in digest mode i.e. receiving a > > digest of multiple > > messages or want this mode) > > > > > > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > This list is for the discussion of Genealogy and History, primarily regarding the Wexford area in Ireland. Discussion of migration patterns, immigration,heraldry, historical sketches, census data, wills, family Bibles, vital records, web sites, etc. involving this area is encouraged......... > >

Thanks Cyril, guess I will look further. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cyril Newsome" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [WEX] SHANAHAN in Wexford > Well to be more concise with the answer Marilyn you have the following > acreages for the various Townlands: > > Within the Parish of St. Mary's Enniscorthy: > Ballynahallin (358 acres) > > Within the adjoining Parish of Ballycarney you have: > Ballingale (358 acres), Ballinturner (or Mountfin Lower) > (437 acres), Ballyboy (506 acres), Ballycarney (739 acres), > Ballyduff (332 acres) and Ballymorgan (112 acres). > > Within the adjoining Parish of Clone you have: > Ballydawmore (187 acres), Ballydonigan (271 acres), BallySimon (310) and > Ballymurtagh (195 acres). > > Within the adjoining Parish of Monart you have: > Ballinure (284 acres), Ballybrannis (149 acres), Ballydaw (or Davidstown) > (328 acres), Ballynakill (824 acres), > Ballynelahillan (sorry I have no acreages for this one), Ballyorril (or > this > one) and Ballywilliamroe (232 acres). > > In the adjoining Parish of St. John's (Bantry) you have: > Ballynapierce (385acres). > > Finally, in the adjoining Parish of Templeshannon you have: > Ballydawmore (49 acres) and Ballynabarney (466 acres). > > As you can see there is nothing there (other than my omissions) that would > indicate anything like the acreages you specify? > > Sorry I cannot be of more help to you at this stage. > > > slan > Cyril Newsome > Loch Garman. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marilyn Shanahan" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 3:13 PM > Subject: Re: [WEX] SHANAHAN in Wexford > > >> Well Cyril....You could knock me over, because I did not know any of >> this. >> The information I got was from ancestry.com, who told me that they did >> not >> have any further information. Also, I knew Ballyprecas was something >> like >> 943 acres, being sort of large for a townland. I guess I just will never >> know exactly which of the "Bally" anythings, the Shanahans came from. > Good >> to know, I'm at another rather large "fork" in the road of research. >> M. Shanahan >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Cyril Newsome" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:39 AM >> Subject: Re: [WEX] SHANAHAN in Wexford >> >> >> > Hi Marilyn, >> > >> > The only Townlands that are "Bally" anything, in and around the >> > Enniscorthy >> > area are the following Townlands for the respective Parishes and ALL >> > within >> > the Enniscorthy Poor Law Union.. >> > >> > Within the Parish of St. Mary's Enniscorthy: >> > Ballynahallin >> > >> > Within the adjoining Parish of Ballycarney you have: >> > Ballingale, Ballinturner (or Mountfin Lower), Ballyboy, Ballycarney, >> > Ballyduff and Ballymorgan. >> > >> > Within the adjoining Parish of Clone you have: >> > Ballydawmore, Ballydonigan, BallySimon and Balymurtagh. >> > >> > Within the adjoining Parish of Monart you have: >> > Ballinure, Ballybranis, Ballydaw (or Davidstown), Ballynakill, >> > Ballynelahillan, Ballyorril and Ballywilliamroe. >> > >> > In the adjoining Parish of St. John's (Bantry) you have: >> > Ballynapierce. >> > >> > Finally, in the adjoining Parish of Templeshannon you have: >> > Ballydawmore and Ballynabarney. >> > >> > >> > slan >> > Cyril Newsome >> > Loch Garman >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Marilyn Shanahan" <[email protected]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 8:09 PM >> > Subject: [WEX] SHANAHAN in Wexford >> > >> > >> >> Does anyone on the list connect to the following... >> >> Birth Location was Ballprecas Townland of County Wexford, Barony of >> > Scarawalsh, Civil parish St. Mary's Enniscorthy, Poor Lawn Union: >> > Enniscorthy >> >> PATRICK SHANAHAN married to Eliza ( maiden name unknown) >> >> Approximate birth: 1830 >> >> Approximate Death: 1860 >> >> ELIZA SHANAHAN immigrated to US in 1855 >> >> Settled eventually in Chicago, Ill. >> >> Thank you >> >> M. Shanahan >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== >> >> To do a search of the Wexford Archives go to >> >> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== >> > To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: >> > >> > [email protected] (if you are in mail mode i.e. receiving >> > the messages >> > individually or want them individually) >> > >> > or >> > >> > [email protected] (if you are in digest mode i.e. >> > receiving > a >> > digest of multiple >> > messages or want this mode) >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== >> This list is for the discussion of Genealogy and History, primarily > regarding the Wexford area in Ireland. Discussion of migration patterns, > immigration,heraldry, historical sketches, census data, wills, family > Bibles, vital records, web sites, etc. involving this area is > encouraged......... >> >> > > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > To do a search of the Wexford Archives go to > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

Well Cyril....You could knock me over, because I did not know any of this. The information I got was from ancestry.com, who told me that they did not have any further information. Also, I knew Ballyprecas was something like 943 acres, being sort of large for a townland. I guess I just will never know exactly which of the "Bally" anythings, the Shanahans came from. Good to know, I'm at another rather large "fork" in the road of research. M. Shanahan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cyril Newsome" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:39 AM Subject: Re: [WEX] SHANAHAN in Wexford > Hi Marilyn, > > The only Townlands that are "Bally" anything, in and around the > Enniscorthy > area are the following Townlands for the respective Parishes and ALL > within > the Enniscorthy Poor Law Union.. > > Within the Parish of St. Mary's Enniscorthy: > Ballynahallin > > Within the adjoining Parish of Ballycarney you have: > Ballingale, Ballinturner (or Mountfin Lower), Ballyboy, Ballycarney, > Ballyduff and Ballymorgan. > > Within the adjoining Parish of Clone you have: > Ballydawmore, Ballydonigan, BallySimon and Balymurtagh. > > Within the adjoining Parish of Monart you have: > Ballinure, Ballybranis, Ballydaw (or Davidstown), Ballynakill, > Ballynelahillan, Ballyorril and Ballywilliamroe. > > In the adjoining Parish of St. John's (Bantry) you have: > Ballynapierce. > > Finally, in the adjoining Parish of Templeshannon you have: > Ballydawmore and Ballynabarney. > > > slan > Cyril Newsome > Loch Garman > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marilyn Shanahan" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 8:09 PM > Subject: [WEX] SHANAHAN in Wexford > > >> Does anyone on the list connect to the following... >> Birth Location was Ballprecas Townland of County Wexford, Barony of > Scarawalsh, Civil parish St. Mary's Enniscorthy, Poor Lawn Union: > Enniscorthy >> PATRICK SHANAHAN married to Eliza ( maiden name unknown) >> Approximate birth: 1830 >> Approximate Death: 1860 >> ELIZA SHANAHAN immigrated to US in 1855 >> Settled eventually in Chicago, Ill. >> Thank you >> M. Shanahan >> >> >> ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== >> To do a search of the Wexford Archives go to >> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> >> >> > > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: > > [email protected] (if you are in mail mode i.e. receiving > the messages > individually or want them individually) > > or > > [email protected] (if you are in digest mode i.e. receiving a > digest of multiple > messages or want this mode) > >

Hi Marilyn, The only Townlands that are "Bally" anything, in and around the Enniscorthy area are the following Townlands for the respective Parishes and ALL within the Enniscorthy Poor Law Union.. Within the Parish of St. Mary's Enniscorthy: Ballynahallin Within the adjoining Parish of Ballycarney you have: Ballingale, Ballinturner (or Mountfin Lower), Ballyboy, Ballycarney, Ballyduff and Ballymorgan. Within the adjoining Parish of Clone you have: Ballydawmore, Ballydonigan, BallySimon and Balymurtagh. Within the adjoining Parish of Monart you have: Ballinure, Ballybranis, Ballydaw (or Davidstown), Ballynakill, Ballynelahillan, Ballyorril and Ballywilliamroe. In the adjoining Parish of St. John's (Bantry) you have: Ballynapierce. Finally, in the adjoining Parish of Templeshannon you have: Ballydawmore and Ballynabarney. slan Cyril Newsome Loch Garman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Shanahan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 8:09 PM Subject: [WEX] SHANAHAN in Wexford > Does anyone on the list connect to the following... > Birth Location was Ballprecas Townland of County Wexford, Barony of Scarawalsh, Civil parish St. Mary's Enniscorthy, Poor Lawn Union: Enniscorthy > PATRICK SHANAHAN married to Eliza ( maiden name unknown) > Approximate birth: 1830 > Approximate Death: 1860 > ELIZA SHANAHAN immigrated to US in 1855 > Settled eventually in Chicago, Ill. > Thank you > M. Shanahan > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > To do a search of the Wexford Archives go to > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > >

Does anyone on the list connect to the following... Birth Location was Ballprecas Townland of County Wexford, Barony of Scarawalsh, Civil parish St. Mary's Enniscorthy, Poor Lawn Union: Enniscorthy PATRICK SHANAHAN married to Eliza ( maiden name unknown) Approximate birth: 1830 Approximate Death: 1860 ELIZA SHANAHAN immigrated to US in 1855 Settled eventually in Chicago, Ill. Thank you M. Shanahan

I have just been at the G.R.Os in Dublin (Joyce House) and did a five year Death Search for two euro. The cost of obtaining photocopies of the entries was four euro each. These charges would be the same for searches and photocopies of the entries of Births and Marriages. There has definitely been an increase in the charges since my last visit to the GROs, but not unexpected as there hadn't been an increase for years. Joyce Tunstead -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/197 - Release Date: 09/12/05

Marriages Our Lady of Mount Carmel RC Church, High Park Street, Liverpool 1 June 1885 Nicholas Joseph Cullen - Corn Market, Wexford s/o John to Margaret Matilda McWilliams - 8 Aberdeen Street d/o Thomas Wit: Patrick Stafford - 44 Essex Street/Mary McWilliams - 8 Aberdeen Street 4 June 1901 Michael Murphy - Main Street, Wexford s/o Michael to Margaret Pitt - 445 Jacob Street d/o Thomas Wit: Timothy Leary - John Street, Wexford/Barbara Hamilton - Park Road .............................................................................. ........................... St Alban RC Church, Athol Street, Liverpool 12 May 1872 Thomas Graham - Kilmore Cty, Wexford s/o John Graham to Marian Moran - 4 Blackstone Street d/o David Moran Wit: Patrick & Margaret Bulger - 18 Snowden Street .............................................................................. ......................... Sacred Heart RC Church, Hall Lane, Liverpool 5 October 1904 John O'Neill - Newbawn, Wexford s/o John O'Neill to Margaret Brady - 45 Needham Road d/o Edward Brady Wit: Patrick Conlan and Elizabeth Thomas both of 45 Needham Road .............................................................................. ......................... St Vincent de Paul RC Church, St James Street, Liverpool 16 January 1864 Thomas Kelly - Wexford in Hibernia s/o Richard to Frances Murphy (natum O'Leary) - Holmes Lane, Seaforth d/o Richard Wit: Thomas Harper - 41 Norfolk Street/Mary Lyons - Holmes Lane, Seaforth 16 July 1866 Michael Morris - Stewart Street sd/o Patrick to Mary Walsh - Maulingtown, Co Wexford d/o John Wit: John McKenna - Stanhope Street/Jane Evans - Chesterfield Street 30 May 1870 James Woods - 108 Rathbone Street s/o James to Mary Anne Donohue - Main Street, Wexford, Hibernia d/o John Wit: James Wood - 108 Rathbone Street/Helen Donohue - Main Street, Wexford .............................................................................. ......................... Our Lady of Reconciliation RC Church, Eldon Street, Liverpool 4 March 1856 James Quinzy - Wexford s/o John & Ann Darsy ? to Catherine Connor - Wexford d/o Peter & Margaret Butler Wit: Patrick Galloghan - Liverpool/Patrick Smith - Liverpool 28 April 1856 Michael Freany - Wexford s/o Michael & Mary to Esther Kanselay - Wexford d/o Richard & Ann Wit: Patrick Galoghan - Wexford/Sarah Gregory - Wexford Eileen

Can I just add a personal note to this one. It was probably my certificates that Cyril is speaking about as he so kindly responded to my original plea regarding my grandmother Mary Ann Connor of Ballycanew. I put out a general email requesting any information on this family as I had got absolutely nowhere in trying to find my grandmothers birth in the Civil Registration. In just over an hour after my email appearing on this mailing list Cyril had come back to me with the full details of my grandmothers birth registration - information which I had spent nine years trying to find. I could not believe that someone would go out of their way to help me. Cyril has now obtained for me not only my grandmothers birth certificate but also that of her sister which is so kindly also looked up for me. My BIG thanks for Cyril - I don't know what I would have done without your help. Its people like Cyril who make genealogy such a pleasant and enjoyable pastime. Regards, Rose Epsom/ UK

Has anyone purchased an Irish BMD cert recently? On a recent trip into the Registrars office here in Wexford this last week, I was advised that the cost of Birth Certs etc. has increased from ?6.90 (that's 6 euros and 90 cents.) to ?8 (8 euros) plus a ?2 (2 euros) search fee. Overall it has been due for an increase for some time, which now makes it comparable to the cost of Certs. issued in the UK. They now also have facilities for Credit/Debit cards but DO NOT accept them over the Internet. (I'm not sure about over the phone in all honesty.) slan Cyril Newsome Loch Garman

Cyril, Thanks for keeping us informed of the goings on in Wexford. How else would we know ? Harry Stafford Cyril Newsome <[email protected]> wrote: Has anyone purchased an Irish BMD cert recently? On a recent trip into the Registrars office here in Wexford this last week, I was advised that the cost of Birth Certs etc. has increased from ?6.90 (that's 6 euros and 90 cents.) to ?8 (8 euros) plus a ?2 (2 euros) search fee. Overall it has been due for an increase for some time, which now makes it comparable to the cost of Certs. issued in the UK. They now also have facilities for Credit/Debit cards but DO NOT accept them over the Internet. (I'm not sure about over the phone in all honesty.) slan Cyril Newsome Loch Garman ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== This list is for the discussion of Genealogy and History, primarily regarding the Wexford area in Ireland. Discussion of migration patterns, immigration,heraldry, historical sketches, census data, wills, family Bibles, vital records, web sites, etc. involving this area is encouraged......... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Dear Rose, Your first place to look should be the 1901 Census of Co. Wexford. In the LDS Family History Library Catalogue do a Place search for Ballycanew - on familysearch.org and see if there are any films you can view at your nearest LDS Family History Centre. From the 1901 census you should be able to find her father with that occupation and the family with him, hopefully. The census will give you an approximate birth year and a birth place. With that info your searching may be more successful. Aileen ============= Mary Ann CONNOR b c 1888 Ballycanew area, d/o William CONNOR, Undertaker. mothers name not known but might have been O'RIODEN. My grandmother died when my father was only nine years old. My dad could recall was that she came from Ballycanew in Wexford. She m in Birmingham 1920 Frederick RUSSELL. Not been able to find her birth regn. after searching for Mary Ann/Mary CONNOR born within a few years of that date - wonder whether birth was registered at all. I must look for a baptism entry. She was Roman Catholic - where I will find the registers for Ballycanew and surrounding parishes c 1880s? Rose

I wonder why people put so much faith in the LDS records. For one they are not complete! secondly, most people think that if they are not in there (LDS) then the records do not exist! Thirdly, as they are (again) a transcription of the originals, they are just as likely to mis-interpret entries, like all of us, if they cannot understand the entry. NO-ONE is infallible The LDS records only exist if they have been transcribed, so everything is not Gospel from that source. Don't get me wrong they are good for some things, BUT NOT EVERYTHING! I've even used them myself but, I never hold everything as Gospel until I have exhausted my own research recourses like contacting the local (in this case the Wexford) Registrars office. Most local records now, are on Computer database, again not all of them, so it is well worth asking the registrar (if you have access) in the first place. The information I have given you "is straight from the Horses Mouth" as we say... slan Cyril Newsome Loch Garman (for the seven people who wrote to me "off List" asking where this Loch Garman is? Well I have to say, "It is in fact, Co. Wexford itself!") ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [WEX] Connor of Wexford > Dear Cyril, > > I am amazed!!!! and so excited. > > It has taken me years and years to find that infomation and that MaryAnn > Connor is not listed on the Civil entries at the copies of civil registration at > the LDS Family History Centres. > > That definitely looks like the right Mary Ann. I will now obtain a copy of > her entry from Dublin. Thank you once again. > > Kind regards, > > Rose > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > The Wexford Surnames List can be found at > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/wexford.html > > >

Cyril, Yes, I agree with what you say about the LDS. Tonight I have gone through my original list of Mary Ann Connor from the LDS transcription - and the one that you gave me is certainly not listed. Perhaps I missed it when I transcribed them or maybe it had been missed off. I am normally good and don't miss things. But I do have lots of birth certificates for 'other' Mary (Ann) Connors' in Wexford and other counties about the time late1880s-1890, so if anyone is looking for anyone by that name the please contact me and I will see if I have a certificate. You mentioned in your email the Wexford Registras Office- will they supply copies of certificates direct or would I have to go to Dublin? Also, would they have marriage entries there, too? I have always applied directly to Dublin in the past not knowing that there were local offices. Kind regards, Rose Epsom UK