Re reply from Hilary: Hello Maureen: Archerton was the name on a dwelling at Clonard, now a suburb of Wexford town. I don't think it is still there Thanks Hilary - Would Broadway also be near Clonard and would you know the parish church circ 1878 or prior that a child who lived in the area of the dwelling of Archerton would be liable to be christened in. Many thanks. Maureen
Thanks Hilary - would Clonard be anywhere near a place called Broadway. Regards. Maureen. ---- [email protected] wrote: > Content-Type: text/plain > > WEXFORD-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 15 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Archerton [maureenoc <[email protected]>] > #2 Re: [WEX] Archerton ["hilary murphy" <[email protected]>] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from WEXFORD-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > To unsubscribe on the web, go to > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/subscribe.html > > Hugh > > Listowner > > [email protected] > > > > ______________________________
Broadway is about eight miles south of Wexford town in the parish of Lady's Island. ----- Original Message ----- From: "maureenoc" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 8:59 PM Subject: [WEX] Re: WEXFORD-D Digest V06 #15 > Thanks Hilary - would Clonard be anywhere near a place called Broadway. > Regards. Maureen. > ---- [email protected] wrote: >> Content-Type: text/plain >> >> WEXFORD-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 15 >> >> Today's Topics: >> #1 Archerton [maureenoc >> <[email protected]>] >> #2 Re: [WEX] Archerton ["hilary murphy" >> <[email protected]>] >> >> Administrivia: >> To unsubscribe from WEXFORD-D, send a message to >> >> [email protected] >> >> that contains in the body of the message the command >> >> unsubscribe >> >> and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >> requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. >> >> To unsubscribe on the web, go to >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/subscribe.html >> >> Hugh >> >> Listowner >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> ______________________________ > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > This list is for the discussion of Genealogy and History, primarily > regarding the Wexford area in Ireland. Discussion of migration patterns, > immigration,heraldry, historical sketches, census data, wills, family > Bibles, vital records, web sites, etc. involving this area is > encouraged......... > >
Hi Maureen; My grandfather's brother John Foley was born in 1866 in Broadway. What name are you researching? John Foley at [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])
Is there any way I can check whether a Sarah and Michael Doyle which I found on Jane Lyons website are husband and wife. I had a relative b 1865 Sarah (O) Neill who married a Michael Doyle in 1908 in Ballycullane. I have tried to mail Jane, but it has been returned to me. Appreciative of any help. Thanks. Shelagh.
Has anyone on the list heard of an area called Archerton in Co Wexford? Just inquiring for a friend. Thanks Maureen
Hello Maureen: Archerton was the name on a dwelling at Clonard, now a suburb of Wexford town. I don't think it is still there, Hilary Murphy ----- Original Message ----- From: "maureenoc" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 11:58 AM Subject: [WEX] Archerton > Has anyone on the list heard of an area called Archerton in Co Wexford? > Just inquiring for a friend. > > Thanks > > Maureen > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > To do a search of the Wexford Archives go to > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >
Hi Harry, Have we talked about STAFFORDs before? I have (Peter) Joseph STAFFORD (known as Joe) from Wexford Town arriving in Australia (probably New South Wales as a sailor) some time between 1861 and 1865. By 1866 he was living in Queensland with Bridget O'NEILL/CUSACK when their eldest child was born. They seem to have moved back and forth between Brisbane and Bundaberg before ending up in Brisbane later in life. Joe's parents were Peter STAFFORD and Mary WHITTY. Joe was born in about 1841, I presume in Wexford, but I haven't been able to make any headway at all with his family at the Irish end. His father was supposedly a tailor, although given handwriting, he could possibly have been a sailor like his son. I would be interested to hear if anyone else has something to add. Cheers, Jo Mitchell Geelong, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Stafford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 7:03 AM Subject: [WEX] Sailing from Wexford > Hello List, > > My ancestor, William STAFFORD, left Wexford for Liverpool and thence to New York City arriving June 1, > 1846 on the vessell FIDELIA. > > Does anyone have a connection to the STAFFORD > surname ? > > Harry > > > --------------------------------- > > What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > The Wexford Surnames List can be found at > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/wexford.html > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.6/257 - Release Date: 2/10/2006 > >
Hi all, The Townland of Templenacroha is in the Barony of Bantry, the Civil Parish of Adamstown in the Poor Law Union of New Ross consisting of some 848 acres. slan Cyril Newsome Loch Garman ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 9:03 PM Subject: [WEX] Re: WEXFORD-D Digest V06 #10 > Hi Donna, > > I hope that what I have will be of help to you. I am familiar with the area > of County Wexford about which you have made your inquiry. My ancestors were > Old Ross Palatines and attended St. Mary's Church there. It is a Church of > Ireland as are the Adamstown and New Ross Church as well. > > You almost had the place name of Templenacrow deciphered correctly. As best > I can say it is a place name, most likely a townland or perhaps even a single > farm or home. > > Palace is a small crossroads village, about 2 miles north of Old Ross. There > is a Palace House another 1/4 mile to the North east of the Palace crossroads. > > The "ir" in the letter's heading I would judge to be an abbreviation of > Ireland. > > You have the spelling of Thomas Harmon's name correct. He was the curate and > registrar for many of the Hartrick Clan baptisms, marriages and burials in > both the St. Mary's church in New Ross, and Old Ross, and his name appears in > the Adamstown church records as well. He must have been a very busy man indeed. > > Don't be confused by the style of writing of the times. It was quite stylish > to write s' to look like f's . This was carried over to double ss'. In > researching old documents I have seen these written as "sf" and "fs" and this on > the same page by the same penman! You have only to look at our own Declaration > of Independence for s' that look like fs. They are in the phrase "...among > these are Life Liberty and the Purfuit of Happynefff." > > Lester J. Hartrick > > Visit the Hartrick Clan Website at: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hartrickclan > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > DO NOT post virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, etc. > > >
Lester I finished translating one of Williams McGrath's letters to his daughter Catherine today. It was written in May 19, 1858 in reply to her first letter to him that he received on the 29 th of April. He mentions that he gave the letter to Mr. Harmon to read and that Mr. Harmon was glad to hear that she was well. My thoughts are now that he must be a family friend to be concerned about Catherine and that her father would feel the need to show the letter to him. Most of the letter was thanking her for the money she sent. He said "he waited to write until he got the bill cashed and that it was two weeks before he got it....He said times is much changed since you left. Anyone that is not able to pay the rent must go in to the bank and then pay discount for it." Could that be that he must pay a penalty for paying late? I appreciate all the advice I've received. You've all given me that little push that I needed to get back to these letter and to read everything I can find on Ireland and County Wexford. Donna in South Dakota >You have the spelling of Thomas Harmon's name correct. He was the curate and registrar for many of the Hartrick Clan baptisms, marriages and burials in both the St. Mary's church in New Ross, and Old Ross, and his name appears in the Adamstown church records as well. He must have been a very busy man indeed.>
> > Subject: SURNAMES IRE-SAILED FROM NEW ROSS 1817- 1 > From: "Cara_Links" <[email protected]> > Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 23:17:15 +1100 > To: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > > On the 29th of November 1817- 4,027 individuals representing 710 Church of > Ireland families left New Ross ............. > and also sailing on the same date were 1,475 Roman Catholic families > representing 281 RC families > now I have no idea at this point of my research what ships they sailed on > but there must have been more than one ship for that amount of people. > Only one name was listed on the ticket ( this was common of those leaving > Ireland) and then a number is given for the amount of people in family - > these families could have included brothers sisters mothers and the next > door neighbour............. > So am just going to list the Surname here - you need the rest email me off > list may be better but the choice is yours. > > Church of Ireland first and the second mail will hold RC folk > Cockrell > Dockrel > Dockrel > Dockrell or COCKRELL (COCKRELL)? > Mand? Could this be MAUD? > Steacey > Steacey > Steacey > Steacy > Sutton > Sutton > Sutton > Sutton > Sutton > Sutton > Sutton > Tackaberry > Tackaberry > Tackaberry > Tackaberry > Tackaberry > > Webster > Webster > > > Cheers Cara Names I'm chiefly interested in. I already khe Tackaberries were from the Wexford-Wicklow border area mainly, as from earlier discussions here, and came over to Canada in waves over a good many years during the early-mid 19th century. The "Mand" intrigues me. "Dockrell" may well be a legit spelling of an unrelated family. Maybe I should take you up on the off-list email, eh? OK
Hello Joanne, I wish it were so!!! These ancestors are very elusive are they not ? I have no Peter, Joe or any known kin in Australia. I'm pretty sure my William lived in Piercestown, Wexford before immigrating to New York City. He was a ship builder by trade. He sailed on the Vessel FIDELIA from Liverpool to NYC arriving June 1, 1846. Thanks for the email and we'll just keep on trying. Harry California Joanne Mitchell <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Harry, Have we talked about STAFFORDs before? I have (Peter) Joseph STAFFORD (known as Joe) from Wexford Town arriving in Australia (probably New South Wales as a sailor) some time between 1861 and 1865. By 1866 he was living in Queensland with Bridget O'NEILL/CUSACK when their eldest child was born. They seem to have moved back and forth between Brisbane and Bundaberg before ending up in Brisbane later in life. Joe's parents were Peter STAFFORD and Mary WHITTY. Joe was born in about 1841, I presume in Wexford, but I haven't been able to make any headway at all with his family at the Irish end. His father was supposedly a tailor, although given handwriting, he could possibly have been a sailor like his son. I would be interested to hear if anyone else has something to add. Cheers, Jo Mitchell Geelong, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Stafford" To: Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 7:03 AM Subject: [WEX] Sailing from Wexford > Hello List, > > My ancestor, William STAFFORD, left Wexford for Liverpool and thence to New York City arriving June 1, > 1846 on the vessell FIDELIA. > > Does anyone have a connection to the STAFFORD > surname ? > > Harry > > > --------------------------------- > > What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > The Wexford Surnames List can be found at > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/wexford.html > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.6/257 - Release Date: 2/10/2006 > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== This list is for the discussion of Genealogy and History, primarily regarding the Wexford area in Ireland. Discussion of migration patterns, immigration,heraldry, historical sketches, census data, wills, family Bibles, vital records, web sites, etc. involving this area is encouraged......... --------------------------------- Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!
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Hi Donna, I hope that what I have will be of help to you. I am familiar with the area of County Wexford about which you have made your inquiry. My ancestors were Old Ross Palatines and attended St. Mary's Church there. It is a Church of Ireland as are the Adamstown and New Ross Church as well. You almost had the place name of Templenacrow deciphered correctly. As best I can say it is a place name, most likely a townland or perhaps even a single farm or home. Palace is a small crossroads village, about 2 miles north of Old Ross. There is a Palace House another 1/4 mile to the North east of the Palace crossroads. The "ir" in the letter's heading I would judge to be an abbreviation of Ireland. You have the spelling of Thomas Harmon's name correct. He was the curate and registrar for many of the Hartrick Clan baptisms, marriages and burials in both the St. Mary's church in New Ross, and Old Ross, and his name appears in the Adamstown church records as well. He must have been a very busy man indeed. Don't be confused by the style of writing of the times. It was quite stylish to write s' to look like f's . This was carried over to double ss'. In researching old documents I have seen these written as "sf" and "fs" and this on the same page by the same penman! You have only to look at our own Declaration of Independence for s' that look like fs. They are in the phrase "...among these are Life Liberty and the Purfuit of Happynefff." Lester J. Hartrick Visit the Hartrick Clan Website at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hartrickclan
Donna, My great great grandmother was Abina McGrath of Knockrow (Knockroe) in the parish of Old Ross. I have a good bit of information on her which has come to me through a living 93 year old relative. He advised me that one of Abina's brothers moved to Templenacrow upon marriage but he wasn't sure of this man's first name. The 1901 census shows three people there who would be in the right age group - Thomas (who has a name carried down in our family), a widow Anne and a widow Eliza, either of whom might have been the wife of this brother. It did occur to me that the Michael mentioned below (who died aged 47) not have had children old enough to take over his place when he died, and therefore a cousin took over it instead - this cousin being Abina's brother. There is a Philip McGrath there who was born around the same time as this Michael below. We don't have the name Philip running in our family but William, Michael and Eliza all go through each generation. If my conjecture is true we would be related. I hope to write to my 93 year old relative shortly, Tom McGrath, so I can ask him if he remembers any reference to any McGraths of Templenacrow being in America. But I don't expect a fast reply! Eileen (in Sydney) ----- Original Message ----- From: "hilary murphy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [WEX] Re: Catherine McGrath letter of reference > Donna > I was also surprised at that Catherine obtained her letter of reference form > the Protestant minister, until I discoverd that he, Rev. Thomas Harman, > lived in Palace, and would have known the McGrath family as neighbours in > Templenachrow. > Adamstown is a Catholic cemetery. The inscription on the McGrath memorial > stone reads: "Erected by William McGrath of Templenacrow in memory of his > wife Eliza who died October 1st 1868 aged 72 years; also his son Michael who > died Sept 27th 1869 aged 47 years." > > Glad to help, > Hilary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kentch's" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 7:15 PM > Subject: [WEX] Re: Catherine McGrath letter of reference > > > > Hilary > > Thank You for the information. How wonderful to find that the Curate was > > really Thomas Harman. Catherine's parents were buried, along with a few > > of > > her brothers and sisters, in the Adamstown Cemetery, New Ross. Do you > > know > > if that would that be Catholic or Protestant? I found that information > > out > > about the burials a few years ago from someone on this site. > > Catherine stayed in Boston awhile then came out to Nebraska and married > > Ed Monaghan, also from Ireland via Scotland. They lived out their lives in > > Percival, Iowa but are buried in St. Mary's Catholic Cemetery in Nebraska > > City, Nebraska (across the river from Percival, Iowa. > > We've always assumed she was born Catholic. If so I'm surprised she > > would get a reference from a Protestant Curate although he just says he > > has > > known her since her childhood. He could be a neighbor or family member. > > I really shouldn't say that surprised me because an awful lot of > > genealogy research finds come as a surprise. Thank you for taking the > > time > > for my questions > > Donna Kentch in South Dakota > > > > > > ----- > > > > Curate describes the lowest order of priest, below that of Parish Priest > > or > > Pastor in the Catholic church and Rector in the Protestant church. Thomas > > Harman was the Protestnat Curate in Old Ross. He died in 1871 and is > > buried > > in the cemetery at Old Ross church. > > The only church in Old Ross is the Protestant/Church of Ireland one. The > > RC > > church is in the townland of Cushinstown, beside the N25 Wexford-New Ross > > route, and in the civil parish of Carnagh. Both civil parishes were > > incorporated into the R.C. parish of Cushinstown and the New Ross Union of > > parishes. > > > > > > > > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > > The Wexford Surnames List can be found at > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/wexford.html > > > > > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > DO NOT post virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, etc. > >
On the 29th of November 1817- 4,027 individuals representing 710 Church of Ireland families left New Ross ............. and also sailing on the same date were 1,475 Roman Catholic families representing 281 RC families now I have no idea at this point of my research what ships they sailed on but there must have been more than one ship for that amount of people. Only one name was listed on the ticket ( this was common of those leaving Ireland) and then a number is given for the amount of people in family - these families could have included brothers sisters mothers and the next door neighbour............. So am just going to list the Surname here - you need the rest email me off list may be better but the choice is yours. 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His reasons for leaving He may have went to look for work and as money became available he sent home for the rest of his siblings or did they have to sponsor them into the country as they did in Australia ??? CARA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martha Hardcastle Guthrie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 3:57 AM Subject: Re: [WEX] REASONS FOR LEAVING IRELAND > My ancestor, Daniel Sullivan apparently came from Wexford to Louisiana > about 1818. Five sibs followed all the way up to the 1850s. It doesn't > seem to follow any pattern at all. Any ideas about this? > > Martha > > Cara_Links wrote: > >>Passenger lists would be at the port of disembarkation >> >>But families in 1817 with farming background were leaving via New Ross for >>upper eastern Canada so it would be either Canada was calling out for >>people to work the land or giving land out .......... >> >>May be able to assist with 1817 folk - >>but some of the ancestors you seek would have also been from the first >>clearances off the Fitzwilliam estate and they did not keep as good a >>record of those as they did the second clearances. >> >>Cara >> >> >> >>==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== >>DO NOT post virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political >>announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, etc. >> >> >> > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > The Wexford Surnames List can be found at > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/wexford.html > >
Donna I was also surprised at that Catherine obtained her letter of reference form the Protestant minister, until I discoverd that he, Rev. Thomas Harman, lived in Palace, and would have known the McGrath family as neighbours in Templenachrow. Adamstown is a Catholic cemetery. The inscription on the McGrath memorial stone reads: "Erected by William McGrath of Templenacrow in memory of his wife Eliza who died October 1st 1868 aged 72 years; also his son Michael who died Sept 27th 1869 aged 47 years." Glad to help, Hilary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kentch's" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 7:15 PM Subject: [WEX] Re: Catherine McGrath letter of reference > Hilary > Thank You for the information. How wonderful to find that the Curate was > really Thomas Harman. Catherine's parents were buried, along with a few > of > her brothers and sisters, in the Adamstown Cemetery, New Ross. Do you > know > if that would that be Catholic or Protestant? I found that information > out > about the burials a few years ago from someone on this site. > Catherine stayed in Boston awhile then came out to Nebraska and married > Ed Monaghan, also from Ireland via Scotland. They lived out their lives in > Percival, Iowa but are buried in St. Mary's Catholic Cemetery in Nebraska > City, Nebraska (across the river from Percival, Iowa. > We've always assumed she was born Catholic. If so I'm surprised she > would get a reference from a Protestant Curate although he just says he > has > known her since her childhood. He could be a neighbor or family member. > I really shouldn't say that surprised me because an awful lot of > genealogy research finds come as a surprise. Thank you for taking the > time > for my questions > Donna Kentch in South Dakota > > > ----- > > Curate describes the lowest order of priest, below that of Parish Priest > or > Pastor in the Catholic church and Rector in the Protestant church. Thomas > Harman was the Protestnat Curate in Old Ross. He died in 1871 and is > buried > in the cemetery at Old Ross church. > The only church in Old Ross is the Protestant/Church of Ireland one. The > RC > church is in the townland of Cushinstown, beside the N25 Wexford-New Ross > route, and in the civil parish of Carnagh. Both civil parishes were > incorporated into the R.C. parish of Cushinstown and the New Ross Union of > parishes. > > > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > The Wexford Surnames List can be found at > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/wexford.html > >
Donna, Don't be surprised about the Protestant / Catholic connection. About 9 years ago, Hillary Murphy helped me end 10 years of searching for my Catholic ancestor's gravestone which was ultimately located next to a Protestant Church in Whitechurch which is a few Km south of New Ross. I never would have thought to look there becuase of my American naivete regarding Catholic and Protestant relations. I've only just rejoined this list and am especially pleased to see that Hilary is here. He was a wealth of information for me and always very thorough in his efforts. By the way, it's very nice to see you here, Hilary :) I trust all is well with you :) Regards, Kevin Lacy -----Original Message----- From: Kentch's <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 13:15:34 -0600 Subject: [WEX] Re: Catherine McGrath letter of reference Hilary Thank You for the information. How wonderful to find that the Curate was really Thomas Harman. Catherine's parents were buried, along with a few of her brothers and sisters, in the Adamstown Cemetery, New Ross. Do you know if that would that be Catholic or Protestant? I found that information out about the burials a few years ago from someone on this site. Catherine stayed in Boston awhile then came out to Nebraska and married Ed Monaghan, also from Ireland via Scotland. They lived out their lives in Percival, Iowa but are buried in St. Mary's Catholic Cemetery in Nebraska City, Nebraska (across the river from Percival, Iowa. We've always assumed she was born Catholic. If so I'm surprised she would get a reference from a Protestant Curate although he just says he has known her since her childhood. He could be a neighbor or family member. I really shouldn't say that surprised me because an awful lot of genealogy research finds come as a surprise. Thank you for taking the time for my questions Donna Kentch in South Dakota ----- Curate describes the lowest order of priest, below that of Parish Priest or Pastor in the Catholic church and Rector in the Protestant church. Thomas Harman was the Protestnat Curate in Old Ross. He died in 1871 and is buried in the cemetery at Old Ross church. The only church in Old Ross is the Protestant/Church of Ireland one. The RC church is in the townland of Cushinstown, beside the N25 Wexford-New Ross route, and in the civil parish of Carnagh. Both civil parishes were incorporated into the R.C. parish of Cushinstown and the New Ross Union of parishes. ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== The Wexford Surnames List can be found at http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/wexford.html
Eileen This is certainly worth checking. I'm on my way out for a bit tonight so will get out my McGrath file in the morning and check on everyone's name and age and will get back to you as soon as I can tomorrow. Donna Donna, My great great grandmother was Abina McGrath of Knockrow (Knockroe) in the parish of Old Ross. I have a good bit of information on her which has come to me through a living 93 year old relative. He advised me that one of Abina's brothers moved to Templenacrow upon marriage but he wasn't sure of this man's first name. The 1901 census shows three people there who would be in the right age group - Thomas (who has a name carried down in our family), a widow Anne and a widow Eliza, either of whom might have been the wife of this brother. It did occur to me that the Michael mentioned below (who died aged 47) not have had children old enough to take over his place when he died, and therefore a cousin took over it instead - this cousin being Abina's brother. There is a Philip McGrath there who was born around the same time as this Michael below. We don't have the name Philip running in our family but William, Michael and Eliza all go through each generation. If my conjecture is true we would be related. I hope to write to my 93 year old relative shortly, Tom McGrath, so I can ask him if he remembers any reference to any McGraths of Templenacrow being in America. But I don't expect a fast reply! Eileen (in Sydney)