IRISH CENSUS ABSTRACTS 1821/1841/1851 GDAY:) Here Are Some Census Abstracts From LDS Film No 101767 Certified Copies of extracts from 1821/1841/1851 Irish Census....The Spellings of the townlands etc may be a lil out as some hard to decipher..If anyone has these Names its a great film to Order in Thru LDS Church, Some Even have more info on too, re Deaths in Family Film is Due to Go Back Monday 1851 CENSUS MARY DALY...HEAD...42 COUNTY KERRY.. BARONY....MAGONIHY PARISH ...KILCUMMIN TOWNLAND...MANYLARKANE 1851 CENSUS JOHN ELMES..HEAD...45..Born Co Cork COUNTY...LIMERICK PARISH of ST JOHNS TOWNLAND..ST JOHNS AQUARE 1851 CENSUS JOHN KENNEDY..HEAD....32 COUNTY..DUBLIN BARONY.....BALROTHEY EAST TOWNLAND...BOWHILL 1851 CENSUS MARY KENNEDY..HEAD...48 COUNTY...DUBLIN PARISH...BALROTHERY BARONY..BALROTHERY EAST TOWNLAND...STEPHENTOWN 1851 CENSUS THOMAS KENNEDY...HEAD...61 COUNTY ..DUBLIN BARONY...BALROTHERY EAST PARISH...LUSK TOWNLAND....BALLCUNNIN 1851 CENSUS ROBERT MOAT...HEAD...64 COUNTY...DUBLIN BARONY..BELFAST UPPER PARISH...DRUMBEG TOWNLAND...DUNMURRY 1851 CENSUS JOHN MULVEY..HEAD..38 COUNTY...LEITRIM BARONY of LEITRIM PARISH...KILTUBRIDE TOWNLAND...BUNEVAGH 1851 CENSUS MATHEW SAVAGE...HEAD...25 COUNTY...SLIGO BARONY..TYERILL PARISH..KILLERY TOWNLAND....CORREY 1851 CENSUS DENIS SULLIVAN..HEAD...32 COUNTY...KERRY BARONY..MAGONITY PARISH...KILCUMMIN TOWNLAND...MANLYARKANE 1841 CENSUS JOHN MOAT...HEAD..27 COUNTY..ANTRIM BARONY...UPPER BELFAST ENGLISHTOWN 1821 CENSUS ROBERT HAMILTON..HEAD..AGE 60 COUNTY..ANTRIM BARONY..UPPER BELFAST PARISH...DERRIGHY, POLEGLASS BALLYDOWNLANE 1841 CENSUS WILLIAM HAMILTON..HEAD...87 COUNTY...ANTRIM PARISH...DERRIAGHY BARONY..UPPER BELFAST POLEGLASS 1851 CENSUS JUDY CREGG..HEAD...51 COUNTY...ROSCOMMON BARONY..FRENCH PARK PARISH...TIBOTINE TOWNLAND..PORTAHARD 1851 CENSUS PATT(PATRICK) CALLAGHAN...HEAD...40 COUNTY...SLIGO BARONY..CORRAN PARISH...DRUMRATT TOWNLAND..KNOCKNAGORE 1851 CENSUS MARTIN ASHE....HEAD...35 COUNTY..KERRY BARONY...CORKAGUINY PARISH..BALLINVOHER TOWNLAND...AUGHILLS 1851 CENSUS ROBERT WILKEY...HEAD...25 COUNTY..DONEGAL BARONY...RAPHOE PARISH....TAUGHBOYNE TOWNLAND..LETTERGULLY 1851 CENSUS JAMES WALSH..HEAD..46 COUNTY...WEXFORD BARONY...SCARAWALSH PARISH...KILRUSH TOWNLAND....BALEYRANKIN 1851 CENSUS RICHARD WALLACE....HEAD...34 COUNTY...LIMERICK CITY OF LIMERICK PARISH OF ST MARYS MUNICIPAL TOWN OF THORMOND BRIDGE 1851 CENSUS CHARLES VEAGUE...HEAD...59 COUNTY..DOWN BARONY...UPPER IVEAGH PARISH..CLONDUFT TOWNLAND..DRUMMISCAMP 1851 CENSUS PATT TOWEY....HEAD...29 COUNTY...SLIGO BARONY...COOLAVIN PARISH..KILFREE TOWNLAND...DOON 1851 CENSUS JUDITH SPELLMAN...HEAD..48 COUNTY..GALWAY PARISH..ST NICHOLAS TOWNLAND..BRIDGE STREET TOWN..GALWAY 1851 CENSUS CHARLES SMYTH....HEAD..37 COUNTY...CAVAN BARONY...CLONKEE PARISH....KNOCKBRIDE TOWNLAND...CORWEELIS 1851 CENSUS HUGH SHERRY....HEAD...30 COUNTY..MONAGHAN BARONEY...FURNEY PARISH...DONAGHMAYNE TOWNLAND...KILMURRY 1851 CENSUS TIMOTHY SCANLON..HEAD....40 COUNTY..LIMERICK BARONY..SHANID PARISH...RATHRONAN TOWNLAND....ATHEA LOWER 1851 CENSUS WILLIAM RYAN..HEAD...50 COUNTY...QUEENS BARONY..STRADBALLY PARISH..STRADBALLY TOWNLAND...STRADBALLY 1851 CENSUS MICHAEL RYAN...HEAD..35 COUNTY..CLARE BARONY..BUNRATTY LOWER PARISH...TOMFINLOUGH TOWNLAND....NEWMARKET TOWN...N MARKETON FERGUS 1851 CENSUS RICHARD REID...HEAD..39 COUNTY..DUBLIN PARISH OF ST MUCHANS MUNICIPAL WARD...ARRAN QUAY 1851 CENSUS JAMES QUIGLEY....35..HEAD(Born Fermanagh) COUNTY...MONAGHAN BARONY...DARTREE PARISH...CLONES TOWNLAND...INNISHARMON 1851 CENSUS LAWRENCE O'CONNELL...HEAD...36 Born Co Meath COUNTY...DUBLIN PARISH...ST MICHANS 1851 CENSUS PATRICK NOONAN...HEAD..30 COUNTY...TIPPERARY BARONY..THERRIN PARISH...ROSCREA TOWN..ROSCREA 1841 CENSUS JAS CARBERY..HEAD..26..OCCUPATION...BAKER COUNTY..WESTMEATH BARONY..MOYASHELL-MAGN PARISH...MULLINGAR TOWN..MULLINGAR 1841 CENSUS OWEN CASEY...HEAD....49..OCCUPATION..FARMER COUNTY...QUEENS BARONY...BALLYADAM PARISH..BALLYADAM TOWNLAND....BALLINCLEA 1841 CENSUS GEORGE DAVIS....HEAD..OCCUPATION..COAST GUARD COUNTY..DOWN BARONY..LACALE PARISH..BALLYWATER TOWN..STRANGFORD 1841 CENSUS PATRICK DOODY..HEAD..50..OCUPATION..PUBLICAN COUNTY..LIMERICK BARONY..SOUTH LIBERTY PARISH..ST PATRICK TOWNLAND.....CORBALLY 1841 CENSUS JOHN DORAN(Born Kildare)...HEAD..35..LABOURER COUNTY...WICKLOW BARONY...UPPER TALBOTSTOWN TOWNLAND..RATHTOOL PARISH..RATHTOOL 1841 CENSUS THOMAS FLANAGAN...HEAD ..54...FARMER COUNTY..DUBLIN BARONY..COOLOCK PARISH..COOLOCK TOWNLAND...TOLNAGEE 1841 CENSUS JOHN GERAGHTY...HEAD..46...FARMER COUNTY..LONGFORD BARONY...MOYDOW PARISH...BALLINACORMICK TOWNLAND....KNOCKATARRY POINTON 1841 CENSUS PATT HARNETT..HEAD.46..FARMER COUNTY..LIMERICK BARONY...GEANQUIN PARISH..KILLEEDY TOWNLAND....TOURNAFULLA 1841 CENSUS THOMAS TRETON..HEAD....38..GAMEKEEPER COUNTY..WICKLOW BARONY..SHELLAGH PARISH...MULLINACUFF TOWNLAND....BALLYNULTAGH 1841 CENSUS PATRICK KENEY..HEAD..38..FARMER COUNTY..CAVAN BARONY..CASTLERAGHAN PARISH....CRUSHERLOUGH TOWNLAND..CRUSHERLOUGH 1841 CENSUS EDWARD MARTIN..HEAD..40..LABOURER COUNTY..ANTRIM BARONY..UPPER BELFAST PARISH..DRUMBEG TOWNLAND...BALLYFINAGHY 1841 CENSUS JOHN MCCARDLE..HEAD..30...FARMER COUNTY..MONAGHAN BARONY...CREMORNE PARISH..CLENTIBRET TOWNLAND..KNOCKAVOLIS 1841 CENSUS MARY MCCALL...HEAD..50..HOUSEKEEPER COUNTY CARLOW BARONY..RATHVILLY PARISH..CLONMORE TOWNLAND...KILLALONGFORD 1841 CENSUS OWEN MCGRADE...HEAD..42...FARMER COUNTY..TYRONE BARONY..OMAGH PARISH..KILSKERRY TOWNLAND....GLASSMULLAGH WEST 1841 CENSUS BRYAN MCGUIRE...HEAD..28..LABOURER COUNTY....MAYO BARONY...ERRIS PARISH..KILCOMMON TOWNLAND....DOOYORK 1841 CENSUS MARTIN MCNALLY..HEAD...50..FARMER COUNTY..DUBLIN BARONY..UPPER CROSS PARISH...TALLAGHT TOWNLAND...CONARD 1841 CENSUS MARTIN MULLANEY....HEAD...40..LANDHOLDER COUNTY..MAYO BARONY..GALLEN PARISH..KILLCONDUFF TOWNLAND..LOUGHCURRAGH 1841 CENSUS ANDREW MULLIN...HEAD..35..LABOURER COUNTY..MEATH BARONY..SKREEN PARISH..SKREEN VILLAGE..SKREEN 1841 CENSUS PATT PHILLIPS..HEAD..31 LABOURER COUNTY..MAYO BARONY..CRETELLA PARISH..KILAROLL TOWNLAND..UGGOOL 1841 CENSUS DENIS SWEENEY....HEAD..36..FARMER COUNTY..CORK BARONY..DUHALLOW PARISH..CULLIN TOWNLAND...CRUCKAUN 1841 CENSUS PETER WADE...HEAD..36...STEWARD COUNTY..DUBLIN BARONY..COOLOCK PARISH..GRANGE GORMAN TOWNLAND..GRANGE GORMAN MIDDLE TOWN..FAWCETT LANE 1841 CENSUS RAYMOND WALSH..HEAD..35.PORTER COUNTY..TIPPERARY BARONY..ELIOGARTY PARISH...THURLES TOWN..THURLES 1851 CENSUS JOHN BRYAN..HEAD..38..MESSENGER COUNTY..DUBLIN PARISH..ST NICHOLAS WITHIN MUNICIPAL WARD...MERCHANT QUAY, STREET .ANGEL ALLEY 1851 CENSUS THOMAS CAINE..HEAD..46..FARMER COUNTY..LEITRIM BARONY..LEITRIM PARISH..KILTOGHERT TOWNLAND..KNOCKNASOUNA 1851 CENSUS THOMAS CARR..HEAD...35..HOUSEPAINTER COUNTY..KILDARE BARONY..NORTH SALT PARISH..LARAGHBRYAN TOWNLAND..MAYNOOTH TOWN..MAYNOOTH 1851 CENSUS ANN CLEARY..HEAD...50..BROKER COUNTY..DUBLIN PARISH..ST PETERS TOWN..DUBLIN MUNICIPAL WARD..MARION HOUSE, KEVINS ST LOT 1851 CENSUS PATRICK CONNELL...HEAD..53..FARMER COUNTY..MEATH BARONY..LR MAYFENRALL PARISH..RASHSORE TOWNLAND...BALLINASKAN 1851 CENSUS BERNARD CONROY..HEAD..51..CARPENTER &BUILDER COUNTY..DUBLIN PARISH..ST THOMAS TOWNLAND..MONTJOY WARD TOWN..DUBLIN..BALLYBROUGH RD 1851 CENSUS JAMES CREDEN....HEAD..34..FARMER COUNTY..FERMANAGH BARONY..MAGHERASTAPHENA PARISH..AUGHAVERA TOWNLAND..LISNABANE 1851 CENSUS ROBERT CRIMPTON..HEAD...24..BOOT &SHOE MAKER COUNTY..TYRONE BARONY..LOWER STRABONE PARISH..ARDSTRAW TOWNLAND....DRUMCLAMPH 1851 CENSUS MARTIN CURRY...HEAD..30..FARMER COUNTY..MAYO BARONY..COSTELLO PARISH..KNOCK TOWNLAND..KNOCKROE 1851 CENSUS JOHN DALEY..HEAD..32..FARMER COUNTY..SLIGO BARONY....KIERELL PARISH...KILMACKTRAMY TOWNLAND...DERRANGHOALOUGH 1851 CENSUS DANIEL DOHERTY...HEAD..34..FARMER COUNTY..DONEGAL BARONY....KILMACRENEN PARISH....TULLAHOBEGLEY TOWNLAND...MAGHERCLOUGHER 1851 CENSUS PATRICK DWYER...HEAD...33..PICTUREFRAME MAKER COUNTY..DUBLIN PARISH..ST MICHANS MUNICIPAL WARD of INNS QUAY..MARYS LANE 1851 CENSUS PETER DYER...HEAD..40..TAILOR COUNTY..SLIGO BARONY...TYERAGH PARISH..SKREEN TOWNLAND....SOODRY 1851 CENSUS PETER EAGAN..HEAD..50..ORSLER COUNTY..LONGFORD BARONY..SHRULE PARISH..FORGNEY TOWNLAND...FORGNEY 1851 CENSUS THOMAS EGAN....HEAD...37..FARMER COUNTY..MAYO BARONY..COSTELLO PARISH..AUGHAMONE TOWNLAND..CAHIR 1851 CENSUS ANN ELLIOT....HEAD..53..NEEDLEWORK COUNTY..ARMAGH BARONY...TURRENY PARISH..EGLISH TOWNLAND...DRUMSROLLAN UPPER 1851 CENSUS THOMAS ENNIS....HEAD..45..BLACKSMITH COUNTY...DUBLIN PARISH...ST NICHOLAS TOWN..DUBLIN MUNICIPAL WARD -MERCHANTS QUAY..BONNYS LANE 1851 CENSUS JOSEPH FERGUSON..HEAD..23..FARMERS LABOURER COUNTY..LONDONDERRY BARONY..KENNAUGHT PARISH..TAMLAGHTFINLAGAN TOWNLAND..MOYSE TOWN..MOYSE 1851 CENSUS JOHN FITZMORRIS..HEAD...35..LABOURER COUNTY..KERRY 1851 CENSUS THOMAS GILLERAN.....HEAD..35..FARMER COUNTY..MEATH BARONY....DEMIFORE PARISH....MAYLOUGH TOWNLAND..MILLTOWN TOWN...ORDCASTLE 1851 CENSUS CHRISTOPHER GRANGER...HEAD..37..LABOURER COUNTY...DUBLIN PARISH..ST CATHERINES MARROWBONE LANE STREET 1851 CENSUS THOMAS HUGHES....HEAD...44..TEA &TOBACCO MERCHANT COUNTY..ARMAGH BARONY..TURRENY PARISH..TYNAN TOWNLAND...COOLKILL 1851 CENSUS JOHN JAMISON....HEAD...30...LABOURER COUNTY..ANTRIM BARONY..LOWER DONHICE PARISH...BILLY TOWN....TOBERDOWNEY 1851 CENSUS JOHN KEARONS...HEAD...42...FISHERMAN COUNTY..WICKLOW BARONY..ARKLOW PARISH..ARKLOW STREET...ARKLOW 1851 CENSUS BARNY KELLY..HEAD...35..FARMER COUNTY..ROSCOMMON BARONY...ROSCOMMON PARISH..LISANUFFY TOWNLAND..GRANAGHAN DILLON 1851 CENSUS ELEANOR LALLY..HEAD..60..FARMER COUNTY..GALWAY BARONY..TIQUIN PARISH....KILLESCOHE TOWNLAND....RAHEENS 1851 CENSUS WILLIAM LAMBERD...HEAD..72..SHOEMAKER COUNTY...WEXFORD BARONY..FORTH PARISH....ROSSLANE TOWNLAND...BURROW 1851 CENSUS THOMAS LEONARD..HEAD...46..SHOP PORTER COUNTY..DUBLIN PARISH..ST MICHAN MUNICIPAL WARD..INNS QUAY..CHARLES STREET 1851 CENSUS PATRICK LOUGHLIN...HEAD..40..GARDEN LABOURER COUNTY..DUBLIN PARISH..ST PETER MUNICIPAL WARD...Exchange..LONGFORD STREET 1851 CENSUS JAMES MAGUIRE..HEAD..34..FARMER COUNTY..FERMANAGH BARONY..MAGHERASTAPHENA PARISH...AGHALURCHER TOWNLAND..ESHNASILOSBEG Hope these Help Someone Regards from Australia Cathy:) Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

Shelagh You omitted to say what age the James was at the time of the 1901 -1911 census............. Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelagh O'Neill" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 4:45 AM Subject: [WEX] Re: WEXFORD-D Digest V06 #57 >I believe that my gt.gt. grandfather was a Joseph (O)Neill. The 1901 and > 1911 show my gt grandfather James as being born in Wexford - but where. > The only Joseph (O)Neill I can find on The Griffiths Valuation is one > listed > living at Springvale Glennameenagh Ballycarney. Is there any way I can > enlarge on this to confirm that he is the person I'm looking for?. Any > help > greatly appreciated. > > Shelagh UK. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 11:00 PM > Subject: WEXFORD-D Digest V06 #57 > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.0.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.3/350 - Release Date: 28/05/06 > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.0.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.0/353 - Release Date: 31/05/06 > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > To do a search of the Wexford Archives go to > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

Hi Sheila This may be a shot in the dark. This is a list of my wife's ancestors most I haven't traced yet. His parents were Michael and Hannah Neill of Hill Street, Wexford who had the children listed below. Myles Kevin O'Neill, born Wexford, 07/07/1913. Married Ellen Byrne 28/01/1935, emigrated to Australia in the 1950's Michael Born circa 1896, killed in action WW1 1/02/1915 serving with Battalion of the Irish Guards Patrick Born 01/08/1897 (wife's grandfather) died 07/071958 in Derby, England James Born 20/04/1899 Laurence Born 28/09/1902 Joseph Born 01/03/1905 Mary Josephine Born 23/06/1907 John Paul Born 28/06/1909 married Kathleen Roche, 27/06/1934 Johanna Born 06/09/1911 Hannah Born circa 1915 married in to McGuiness family Regards Paul -----Original Message----- From: Shelagh O'Neill [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 01 June 2006 19:46 To: [email protected] Subject: [WEX] Re: WEXFORD-D Digest V06 #57 I believe that my gt.gt. grandfather was a Joseph (O)Neill. The 1901 and 1911 show my gt grandfather James as being born in Wexford - but where. The only Joseph (O)Neill I can find on The Griffiths Valuation is one listed living at Springvale Glennameenagh Ballycarney. Is there any way I can enlarge on this to confirm that he is the person I'm looking for?. Any help greatly appreciated. Shelagh UK. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 11:00 PM Subject: WEXFORD-D Digest V06 #57 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.0.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.3/350 - Release Date: 28/05/06 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.0.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.0/353 - Release Date: 31/05/06 ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== To do a search of the Wexford Archives go to http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

I believe that my gt.gt. grandfather was a Joseph (O)Neill. The 1901 and 1911 show my gt grandfather James as being born in Wexford - but where. The only Joseph (O)Neill I can find on The Griffiths Valuation is one listed living at Springvale Glennameenagh Ballycarney. Is there any way I can enlarge on this to confirm that he is the person I'm looking for?. Any help greatly appreciated. Shelagh UK. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 11:00 PM Subject: WEXFORD-D Digest V06 #57 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.0.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.3/350 - Release Date: 28/05/06 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.0.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.0/353 - Release Date: 31/05/06

Nice one George, well put. I think the Latin was easier for me though as I couldn't understand that any easier, but it was less words. I think we should all go out and re-think our education. The Priests did their best with me, but then I could only say the mass in Latin (still can). Anything like some of the Latin I have seen in registers frightens the life out of me sometimes, I often wonder if the priests actually spoke as they wrote "would they themselves understand each other?". But, well done George for clarifying the matter and thanks for posting it Suzanne. (Had I missed it somewhere?). slan Cyril Newsome Loch Garman. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzanne Dodd" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 10:11 AM Subject: [WEX] Re: Need LATIN help Please > Again thank you to those who replied both on List and off. > > On the 29th of May George Findlen wrote that :- > > " First cousins are but two,not three,generations from a common ancestor.Thus first cousins require a dispensation for the second to second degree of consanguinity.The individuals in this entry are second cousins since they required having a dispenstion for the third to the third degree of consanguinity.The phrase " in tertio et tertio tells us that both persons were three generations from a common ancestor." > > George also gave the following link for reading. > I recommend reading the entry for " Consanguinity " in vol.IV of The Catholic Encyclopedia ( 1908 ), available on-line at > http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04264a.htm > > > > Suzanne Dodd > > > FREEMAN / CORISH / WHITTY / HORE - Kilmore area,Rock Ferry,Port Sunlight,Chicago,Hollywood Ca. > > FITZSIMMONS / McCLOUD / REDMOND maybe connected to WHELAN / ROGERS & BENNETT Ballygarrett/Cahore,Birkenhead/Rock Ferry. > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > Wexford List Guidelines > > http://wexford-l.blogspot.com/ > > >

Again thank you to those who replied both on List and off. On the 29th of May George Findlen wrote that :- " First cousins are but two,not three,generations from a common ancestor.Thus first cousins require a dispensation for the second to second degree of consanguinity.The individuals in this entry are second cousins since they required having a dispenstion for the third to the third degree of consanguinity.The phrase " in tertio et tertio tells us that both persons were three generations from a common ancestor." George also gave the following link for reading. I recommend reading the entry for " Consanguinity " in vol.IV of The Catholic Encyclopedia ( 1908 ), available on-line at http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04264a.htm Suzanne Dodd FREEMAN / CORISH / WHITTY / HORE - Kilmore area,Rock Ferry,Port Sunlight,Chicago,Hollywood Ca. FITZSIMMONS / McCLOUD / REDMOND maybe connected to WHELAN / ROGERS & BENNETT Ballygarrett/Cahore,Birkenhead/Rock Ferry.

Suzanne Dodd wrote on 5/31/06 2:11 AM > Again thank you to those who replied both on List and off. > > On the 29th of May George Findlen wrote that :- > > " First cousins are but two,not three,generations from a common ancestor.Thus > first cousins require a dispensation for the second to second degree of > consanguinity.The individuals in this entry are second cousins since they > required having a dispenstion for the third to the third degree of > consanguinity.The phrase " in tertio et tertio tells us that both persons were > three generations from a common ancestor." For more information that you could possibly need concerning the counting of consanguinity in the church. <http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04264a.htm> rich -- " My day always goes more smoothly when I remove the Humans from the equation." Andy Ihnatko "Yellow Text" for April 22 2005 Rich Hansen [email protected] /\ [email protected]

It must have been called that "Seaview" by what we call a "Blow-in" Probably a foreigner who doesn't like using it's real name or the way we speak here maybe?...Lol. Tourists eh! slan Cyril Newsome Loch Garman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzanne Dodd" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [WEX] Need LATIN help please > Thanks to Cyril and Rich for their information on the Latin meaning. > Definitely means a trip back to the Library in Wexford now to find how the > FREEMANS and CORISH families were already linked. > > Bad Typo day Cyril , had been up 21 hrs after returning from a very wet > holiday,guess where,it is the wettest May in Ireland for many a year! > I was told by a local lady that Bastardstown is now referred to by some > people now as Seaview :)) > > Suzanne > > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > The Wexford Surnames List can be found at > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/wexford.html > > >

Thanks to Cyril and Rich for their information on the Latin meaning. Definitely means a trip back to the Library in Wexford now to find how the FREEMANS and CORISH families were already linked. Bad Typo day Cyril , had been up 21 hrs after returning from a very wet holiday,guess where,it is the wettest May in Ireland for many a year! I was told by a local lady that Bastardstown is now referred to by some people now as Seaview :)) Suzanne

You are right there Suzanne, It's called consanguination- " marrying blood relatives". The Priest was stating that the dispensation was needed for the marrying of blood relatives and had obviously been received. The order of the relationship could have been anything from 1st. cousin to any one of the other cousin relationships although generally first to first direct would have been frowned upon and probably not allowed. The latter part of the entry I don't understand. (Alterboys wouldn't normally be that involved)...Lol Now this bit: "If any lister lives in the Kilmore area and knows of a Kathleen Freeman connected with the name Barry in the Bastarstown area in recent times could you please contact me off list". For the benefit of those not in Ireland the location is of course called BASTARDSTOWN, I don't think it is making a statement here with the name and this is, a genuine location! It consists of 191 acres and is located in the Parish of Kilmore in the Barony of Bargy. Suzanne is either having a Typo day or being polite? (Bargy is pronounced BAR-GEE as in melted butter, as opposed to Gee-up for horses). slan Cyril Newsome Loch Garman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzanne Dodd" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 1:22 AM Subject: [WEX] Need LATIN help please > Re-Listing,Hello again, > I found last Wednesday a Marriage entry for a Patrick FREEMAN and a Bridget CORISH in 1877 for Kilmore.Now under the heading of Impeditmentum I think it reads as follows Dispensatium impedimento consanguinatio in tertio et tertio fr-d or t-- > > Poor schoolgirl Latin gives me gives me a dispensation from the impediment of consanguinity,I think but what does the last bit mean.Has anyone a clue please? Is it how closely they were related? How near a relative could one marry back then? > > FREEMAN - EDWARD son,PATRICK father,Edward grand father > of Ballyask and Ricardstown. > > CORISH - Bridget dau, James father of Ballask. > > If any lister lives in the Kilmore area and knows of a Kathleen Freeman connected with the name Barry in the Bastarstown area in recent times could you please contact me off list. > > thanks > suzanne dodd > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > This list is for the discussion of Genealogy and History, primarily regarding the Wexford area in Ireland. Discussion of migration patterns, immigration,heraldry, historical sketches, census data, wills, family Bibles, vital records, web sites, etc. involving this area is encouraged......... > > >

Re-Listing,Hello again, I found last Wednesday a Marriage entry for a Patrick FREEMAN and a Bridget CORISH in 1877 for Kilmore.Now under the heading of Impeditmentum I think it reads as follows Dispensatium impedimento consanguinatio in tertio et tertio fr-d or t-- Poor schoolgirl Latin gives me gives me a dispensation from the impediment of consanguinity,I think but what does the last bit mean.Has anyone a clue please? Is it how closely they were related? How near a relative could one marry back then? FREEMAN - EDWARD son,PATRICK father,Edward grand father of Ballyask and Ricardstown. CORISH - Bridget dau, James father of Ballask. If any lister lives in the Kilmore area and knows of a Kathleen Freeman connected with the name Barry in the Bastarstown area in recent times could you please contact me off list. thanks suzanne dodd

Dear Bonnie and Keith: The Mary Ann Kealy in 1881 Renfrew census (probably Wilberforce Twp) I believe is the Mary Ann Kealey living with the Lett family - and said to be a "cousin" I do believe cousin is also used loosely to mean "close friend" A sister of Mary Kealey, Catherine, married Henry Boyle. I would be interested if anyone has the relationship of these two girls to the Lett family which settled in Wilberforce Twp, County Renfrew, Ontario in 1847 and 1849. Thanks and best wishes May Prange On 26-May-06, at 8:39 PM, Keith Hanton wrote: Hello Bonnie in California I have some info for you but roots web rejected it. Send me your email address I will forward it to you. keith hanton On 25-May-06, at 6:01 PM, [email protected] wrote: > I am new to the list. I just found a reference to Wexford on a > Marriage Reg > in Ontario Canada. It is for John Roe, son of John Roe and Mary Ann > Kealy. > Family lore was that the Roe family left Enniskerry, Cty Wicklow in > the > 1860's. Family lore may be fictional since John gave the information > himself and > it is clearly Wexford, Ireland. There is no one alive who knows. > > John Roe and Mary Ann Kealy were born about 1814. There were 6 known > children who went with them to Canada. They settled in Alice Twp > near Pembroke, > Renfrew County, Ontario. John, the father, appears on the 1861 Alice > Twp > census and no family is listed so he may have left first with the > family following. > The entire family is on the 1871 census for Alice Twp. John > acquired land > before the 1861 census and remained a farmer his entire life in > Ontario. > Robert born 1842 > Nicholas born 1845 > Julia born abt 1851 > John born abt 1858 > Elizabeth Frances born abt 1858 > Edward T born about 1860. > The year of birth for the children vary and are not documented but are > taken > from censuses and other documents. > > This family has not been found in Enniskerry records. It is on the > marriage > reg for John that Wexford is listed as his place of birth. Based upon > research, another Mary Ann Kealy, born in Wexford in 1831 ended up in > 1881 Renfrew > County also. There may or may not be a connection. Our Mary Ann > Kealy had > two sisters who left Ireland and went to Massachusetts, Julia (b. abt > 1824) > and Bridget. We are spelling Kealy this way because it is given by > Julia's > daughter on Julia's death registration. > > Any help a guidance is appreciated. > > Bonnie > in California > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > To do a search of the Wexford Archives go to > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== DO NOT post virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, etc. May Prange [email protected]

Suzanne Dodd wrote on 5/27/06 5:22 PM > consanguinatio in tertio et tertio fr-d or t-- Tertio means they were first cousins or because of the tailthere possibly first cousins once removed. rich -- The two most common elements in the universe are: Hydrogen & Stupidity Rich Hansen [email protected] [email protected]

GDAY All:) Am Presently Looking at a Film Thru LDS Church...Film No..101767 Certified Copies of Extracts from 1821/1841/1851 Irish census Here are the Names on there, Plus Counties they From. BUT Only one Family of that Surname is Listed WALSH...WEXFORD GILLERAN...MEATH WADE..DUBLIN FITZMORRIS...KERRY ELLIOT...ARMAGH GEARTY...ROSCOMMON FERGUSON..LONDONDERRY MULLADY...MEATH MULHERON..MONAGHAN WALLACE...LIMERICK VEAGUE...DOWN TOWEY..SLIGO SPELLMAN...GALWAY SMYTHE...CAVAN SHERRY...MONAGHAN SCANLON...LIMERICK RYAN..QUEENS COUNTY RYAN..CLARE REID..DUBLIN QUIGLEY..MONAGHAN O'CONNELL...MEATH NOONAN..TIPPERARY MCNULTIE....DONEGAL MCNALLY..MONAGHAN MURRY..GALWAY MURPHY..WEXFORD MULCAHY...TIPPERARY MALLOY..DUBLIN MARTIN..SLIGO MARTIN..GALWAY MARTIN....DOWN MANGAN...DUBLIN MAGUIRE....FERMANAGH LOUGHLIN..DUBLIN LEONARD..DUBLIN LAMBORD..WEXFORD LALLY..GALWAY KELLY....ROSCOMMON KEARONS..WICKLOW JAMISON...ANTRIM HUGHES..ARMAGH GRANGER...DUBLIN ENNIS..DUBLIN EAGIN...LONGFORD DYER..SLIGO DWYER..DUBLIN DOHERTY..DONEGAL DALY..SLIGO CURRY..MAYO CRIMPTON...TYRONE CREDEN...FERMANAGH CONROY..DUBLIN CONNELL..MEATH CLEARY..DUBLIN CASH...WEXFORD CARR...MEATH CAINE...LEITRIM BRYAN..DUBLIN WALSH...TIPPERARY SWEENEY...CORK PHILLIPS...MAYO MULLIN..MEATH MULLANEY...MAYO MARTIN...DUBLIN MCGUIRE....MAYO MCGRADE..TYRONE MCARDLE..MONAGHAN MARTIN...ANTRIM TRETON...WICKLOW HARNETT..LIMERICK GERAGHTY...LONGFORD FLANAGAN..DUBLIN DORAN...WICKLOW DAVIS...DOWN CASY..QUEENS CARBERY..WESTMEATH BROOKER....CLARE NEWMAN...DUBLIN CREGG...ROSCOMMON Thats it Folks....Hope it Helps Someone... Regards from Australia Cathy:) Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

Hello Bonnie in California I have some info for you but roots web rejected it. Send me your email address I will forward it to you. keith hanton On 25-May-06, at 6:01 PM, [email protected] wrote: > I am new to the list. I just found a reference to Wexford on a > Marriage Reg > in Ontario Canada. It is for John Roe, son of John Roe and Mary Ann > Kealy. > Family lore was that the Roe family left Enniskerry, Cty Wicklow in > the > 1860's. Family lore may be fictional since John gave the information > himself and > it is clearly Wexford, Ireland. There is no one alive who knows. > > John Roe and Mary Ann Kealy were born about 1814. There were 6 known > children who went with them to Canada. They settled in Alice Twp > near Pembroke, > Renfrew County, Ontario. John, the father, appears on the 1861 Alice > Twp > census and no family is listed so he may have left first with the > family following. > The entire family is on the 1871 census for Alice Twp. John > acquired land > before the 1861 census and remained a farmer his entire life in > Ontario. > Robert born 1842 > Nicholas born 1845 > Julia born abt 1851 > John born abt 1858 > Elizabeth Frances born abt 1858 > Edward T born about 1860. > The year of birth for the children vary and are not documented but are > taken > from censuses and other documents. > > This family has not been found in Enniskerry records. It is on the > marriage > reg for John that Wexford is listed as his place of birth. Based upon > research, another Mary Ann Kealy, born in Wexford in 1831 ended up in > 1881 Renfrew > County also. There may or may not be a connection. Our Mary Ann > Kealy had > two sisters who left Ireland and went to Massachusetts, Julia (b. abt > 1824) > and Bridget. We are spelling Kealy this way because it is given by > Julia's > daughter on Julia's death registration. > > Any help a guidance is appreciated. > > Bonnie > in California > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > To do a search of the Wexford Archives go to > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

Thanks, the name isn't so uncommon after all. Margaret. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn Nunn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:28 AM Subject: Re: [WEX] enquiry Hornibrook > You might find following this family interesting - they are well known in > Queensland Australia > > http://www.asap.unimelb.edu.au/bsparcs/biogs/P003640b.htm > > Lyn > in Oz. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cara_Links" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:16 PM > Subject: Re: [WEX] enquiry Hornibrook > > >> Dear Margaret >> >> The name exist in Co Cork >> >> Cara >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Margaret Mckinlay" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:36 AM >> Subject: [WEX] enquiry >> >> >>>I have now had a birth certificate that I applied for from Roscommon for >>>Daniel Collins B 21st August 1870. His parents are given as Michael >>>(Collins Calatrim) and Frances formerly Hornibrook. >>> Can anyone explain Calatrim (place?) and have you heard the name >>> Hornibrook. I realise that sometimes spelling of names is not accurate >>> so maybe that's an approximation. >>> I know this is the Wexford site and I'm asking about Cork - as Cyril >>> once pointed out but it's the name Hornibrook that sounds to unusual. >>> Margaret in Edinburgh. >>> >>> >>> ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== >>> The Wexford Surnames List can be found at >>> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/wexford.html >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== >> To do a search of the Wexford Archives go to >> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> >> > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > To do a search of the Wexford Archives go to > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > >

I am new to the list. I just found a reference to Wexford on a Marriage Reg in Ontario Canada. It is for John Roe, son of John Roe and Mary Ann Kealy. Family lore was that the Roe family left Enniskerry, Cty Wicklow in the 1860's. Family lore may be fictional since John gave the information himself and it is clearly Wexford, Ireland. There is no one alive who knows. John Roe and Mary Ann Kealy were born about 1814. There were 6 known children who went with them to Canada. They settled in Alice Twp near Pembroke, Renfrew County, Ontario. John, the father, appears on the 1861 Alice Twp census and no family is listed so he may have left first with the family following. The entire family is on the 1871 census for Alice Twp. John acquired land before the 1861 census and remained a farmer his entire life in Ontario. Robert born 1842 Nicholas born 1845 Julia born abt 1851 John born abt 1858 Elizabeth Frances born abt 1858 Edward T born about 1860. The year of birth for the children vary and are not documented but are taken from censuses and other documents. This family has not been found in Enniskerry records. It is on the marriage reg for John that Wexford is listed as his place of birth. Based upon research, another Mary Ann Kealy, born in Wexford in 1831 ended up in 1881 Renfrew County also. There may or may not be a connection. Our Mary Ann Kealy had two sisters who left Ireland and went to Massachusetts, Julia (b. abt 1824) and Bridget. We are spelling Kealy this way because it is given by Julia's daughter on Julia's death registration. Any help a guidance is appreciated. Bonnie in California

You might find following this family interesting - they are well known in Queensland Australia http://www.asap.unimelb.edu.au/bsparcs/biogs/P003640b.htm Lyn in Oz. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara_Links" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [WEX] enquiry Hornibrook > Dear Margaret > > The name exist in Co Cork > > Cara > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margaret Mckinlay" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:36 AM > Subject: [WEX] enquiry > > >>I have now had a birth certificate that I applied for from Roscommon for >>Daniel Collins B 21st August 1870. His parents are given as Michael >>(Collins Calatrim) and Frances formerly Hornibrook. >> Can anyone explain Calatrim (place?) and have you heard the name >> Hornibrook. I realise that sometimes spelling of names is not accurate >> so maybe that's an approximation. >> I know this is the Wexford site and I'm asking about Cork - as Cyril once >> pointed out but it's the name Hornibrook that sounds to unusual. Margaret >> in Edinburgh. >> >> >> ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== >> The Wexford Surnames List can be found at >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/wexford.html >> >> > > > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > To do a search of the Wexford Archives go to > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

John I tried to contact you off list at aol.com but email couldn't be delivered and was returned. I'd like to see the list of graveyard inscriptions. [email protected] Margaret in Edinburgh. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:35 AM Subject: Re: [WEX] enquiry > Margaret. > If you would like to get in touch off list, I have Gravestone Inscriptions > of > Kilbrogan Church of Ireland, and there some Hornibrooks there. Callatrim > is > North of Bandon about 3 miles. > John Patrick > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > The Wexford Surnames List can be found at > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/wexford.html > > >

Dear Margaret The name exist in Co Cork Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Mckinlay" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:36 AM Subject: [WEX] enquiry >I have now had a birth certificate that I applied for from Roscommon for >Daniel Collins B 21st August 1870. His parents are given as Michael >(Collins Calatrim) and Frances formerly Hornibrook. > Can anyone explain Calatrim (place?) and have you heard the name > Hornibrook. I realise that sometimes spelling of names is not accurate so > maybe that's an approximation. > I know this is the Wexford site and I'm asking about Cork - as Cyril once > pointed out but it's the name Hornibrook that sounds to unusual. Margaret > in Edinburgh. > > > ==== WEXFORD Mailing List ==== > The Wexford Surnames List can be found at > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/wexford.html > >