I dare say Patricia's artist Westalls may connect with the earlier William Westall 1781-1850 who was the artist with Flinders' expedition to Australia. His wife Ann Sidgwick from Dent bore him four sons: William (Rev) 1821, Thomas, Robert (artist) and Richard. William the elder had a much older half-brother Richard, also an artist. John Ward Website: www.wardjc.com. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Harper" <pats7@bigpond.com> To: <WESTALL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 8:30 AM Subject: re: Thomas Westall c1793 Oxford > Hi Bob and all Westall researchers, > > I last emailed last October re my great great great great grandfather > Thomas Westall, a landscape painter born in Oxford, (probably St > Magdalen). At that time I was under the misapprehension that he had > married an Elizabeth King, but their youngest son's birth certificate from > 1838 revealed her name as being Elizabeth Cocker. > > A connection via genesreunited with a descendant of another of their sons, > Thomas junior, has been a real breakthrough. Jacqui, (who will be joining > us here soon) had found details of a marriage for Thomas Westall and > Elizabeth Cocker at St Mary Magdalen, Oxford, on 30 October 1815, but > wasn't sure if she had the right Thomas Westall. Luckily we were able to > pool our information to confirm this, and we have been happily > collaborating on our Westall family ever since. > > We know that sons George c1820 Newbury, Berkshire, John c1823 Oxford, > and Thomas c1830 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, were all landscape painters > at one time, though Thomas and younger brother William later became house > painters. George earned a living as a picture framer/restorer in London > and my great great great grandmother, the widowed Harriet Calcutt nee > Westall (c1817 Newbury, Berkshire) lived with him at Hampstead for at > least 20 years. Sadly they both died in the Hampstead Union Workhouse in > 1900 within four months of one another. > > Their brother John did quite well for himself as a landscape painter and > one of his works can be seen at > > http://www.aspireauctions.com/auction21/details/2831.html > > He moved to Birmingham in the 1860's and later married a woman some 25 > years his junior. They had many children, some of whom emigrated to > Canada. > > As well as the above-mentioned four sons and daughter Harriet, Thomas and > Elizabeth also had daughters Elizabeth, Ann Alice, and Selina. They all > had lots of children so hopefully someone descended from one or another of > them will see this and add some more details. > > Regards, > > Pat > > >