Hi We actually go right back to Margery & William & yes we branch off at the point you say. I'm DELIGHTED to meet you cousin. Re Change of name Yes you are right It was that family that changed their names . It is funny as the WESTELL's thought they were kind of "special " as their name was spelt differently But it was only changed relatively recently. Now I have a query or two 1. Wm Albert aka Albert W died at sea on the way to NY in approx 1912 BUT I cant find any ref. to that event 2. Same as above married twice. Both times as a bachelor & I can find no death of the former Sarah Anne Perrett (his cousin ) before he married Edith GIBBS . HMMMMMMMM Was he a bigamist OR did she die at sea between 1875 & 1889 Any ideas anyone PLEASE? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Westall" <fred_westall@msn.com> To: <westall@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [WESTALL] Westall connections > Hi Christine, > > I suspect our common ancestors were David Westall (1752, Baydon) and > Hannah > Sims (1751, Inkpen) who married on 26 Oct 1777 in Inkpen. They had three > children: George (1780, Kintbury), Sarah (1777, Kintbury) and William > (1783, > Kintbury). My line goes via George and yours goes via William. I don't > think Sarah had any children(?). Therefore I think you are my 5th > cousin - > or something like that. > > When did Westall become Westell in your line? I suspect that it happened > with the children of John Westall (1804, Chilton Foliat) and Lucy Perrott > (1802, Walcot, Bath Som). According to my records their eldest three > children (Frederick (1830, Bristol), Elizabeth (1831, Bristol) and Lucy > (1832)) all took the Westall name but the following five children (James > (1834, Bedminster), Sarah (1836, Bedminster), John (1839, Bedminster), > Rosa > (1841, Bedminster) and William (1843, Bedminster)) all adopted the Westell > name. It seems there was possibly also a daughter Julia (1846, Bristol) > who > took the Westall name. In other branches of my family the Westell name > sometimes appears as a typographical error .. or should that be the other > way around ^_^ > > In the 1891 census my great grandfather's family were wrongly recorded as > the Wartall family! Henry Westall (Wartall) and his family of 10 were > living in a three-roomed hut on the side of the Manchester ship canal at > Rixton near Warrington where was a walking ganger (a sort of navvie > foreman). Several of his descendants, my cousins, still live in Rixton > and > nearby in Leigh, Lancs. I live nearby in Stockport, Cheshire having been > born in Cardiff Glamorgan. > > I think your connection with Liverpool is possibly via William Albert > Westell (1843) who married Edith Elizabeth Gibbs (1858, Pembroke Dock) in > 1889 in Liverpool, Lancs. Does any of this make sense? > Hope this is useful. > > Fred > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Christine Charles" <chris1@bigpond.net.au> > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 11:28 PM > To: <westall@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [WESTALL] Westall connections > >> My Westall's changed their names in the 1800's to WESTELL .That branch >> were >> from Bristol & my gt grandfather moved to Liverpool >> >> Christine >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Fred Westall" <fred_westall@msn.com> >> To: <WESTALL@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:45 AM >> Subject: [WESTALL] Westall connections >> >> >>> Hi Bob, >>> >>> >>> >>> Wow ... you really do have a great database of Westall's! By the way, >>> who >>> is the earliest Westall on your database? >>> >>> >>> >>> It seems that my earliest ancestor was William Westall (1638) who >>> married >>> Margery Willis (1630) on 1 April 1658 in Aldbourne Wilts. They were my >>> 8x >>> great grandparents. Their son, William Westall (1659) married Sarah >>> Sylvester or Chilvester. Their son Edward Westall (1695) married Sarah >>> Barnet (1698) in 1718, and then my line continues through son John >>> Westall >>> (1718) who married Hester Benfield (1720) in 1745. >>> >>> >>> >>> I think that the Richard Westall RA (the artist) line can be traced back >>> much further but so far we have not been able to definitively link the >>> Norfolk line of Westall's with my own line from Wiltshire/Berkshire. >>> We >>> have come tantalizingly close but no cigar yet! But I am quietly >>> confident >>> that there is a connection linking most of the southern English >>> Westall's >>> together. Currently I am trying to find the link between the Trowbridge >>> Westall's and my own line. I think there may be a link via the Westall >>> group in East Isley but I have not found it yet. >>> >>> >>> >>> I notice there is also a large group of Westall's based in the >>> Oswaldwistle >>> area of Lancashire near Huddersfield. I would love the find how that >>> group >>> came into being - was it a completely independent line or did they join >>> the >>> migration from the south to the north during the industrial revolution? >>> The >>> Westall's of North (Fylde) and West (Liverpool) Lancashire and Cheshire >>> (Warrington) can all be traced back to remote branches of my own line. >>> So >>> far I have not found any Scottish Westall's but I have a lot of Scottish >>> blood from my mother's side! >>> >>> >>> >>> Like you say Genealogy is fascinating. I only got into it about 3 years >>> ago >>> but now I am completely hooked. I am particularly interested in the >>> lives >>> of my ancestors, the historical context and the patterns of migration >>> throughout the family. There's a lot still to do I think! ;0) >>> >>> >>> >>> Fred Westall (the third) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message