Patricia, The following are my notes on Thomas and Elizabeth. Bob 1841 England Census Name: Thos Westall Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796 Gender: Male Civil Parish: St Pancras Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: Grove Lane Occupation: artist Registration district: St Pancras Sub registration district: Regents Park Thos Westall 45..Artist..No Elizth Westall 45............Yes Geoe Westall 20.............No Anne Westall 15.............No John Westall 15.............No Thos Westall 11.............No Selina Westall 6.............No William Westall 3.............Yes ################################ 1851 England Census Name: Thomas Westall Age: 57 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1794 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Mayden, Oxfordshire, England Civil Parish: St Pancras County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: 101 Grove Lane Occupation: Artist Landscape Painter Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Pancras Sub registration district: Regents Park ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 208 Thomas Westall Head..M..57..Artist Landscape Painter....Mayden, Oxfordshire Elizabeth Westall Wife..M..57...Wife...................................St. Giles George Westall Son....S..31..Picture Cleaner & restorer..NewBury, Berkshire John Westall Son....S..27..Picture Cleaner & restorer..Eles, Oxfordshire Thomas Westall Son....S..21..Landscape Painter.............Cheltenham, Goucestershire Selina Westall Dau....S..16..Laundress..........................Cheltenham, Goucestershire Willm Westall Son....S..12..Scholar...............................Middlesex, St. Pancras ################################ 1871 England Census about Thos Westall Name: Thos Westall Age: 77 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1794 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Eliz Gender: Male Where born: St Mayaline, Oxfordshire, England Civil Parish: St Pancras County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 10 Southwick Rd ?? Occupation: Inmates of St. ?? House Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Pancras Sub registration district: Kentish Town ED, institution, or vessel: 23a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 161 Thos Westall Husband..M..77..Inmates of St. ?? House..St. Mayaline, Oxfordshire Eliz Westall Wife..M..77..Inmates of St. ?? House..St. Giles, London ################################ Taken from Free BMD Deaths Mar 1872 WESTALL Thomas 78 Pancras 1b 106 The district Pancras spans the boundaries of the counties of London and Middlesex From: Patricia Harper [mailto:pats7@bigpond.com] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 5:35 PM To: bobatbmw@cox.net Subject: re: William Walter Westall Hi Bob, I was looking at the Westall digest today for the first time in a while and noticed you had a message in October 2008 about an email you had received regarding a couple of William Walter Westalls in London. This ties in with my messages sent last year regarding my Westall family, Harriet Westall being my 3 x great grandfather and her father Thomas Westall the landscape painter my 4 x. I don't know about William Walter Westall born 1839, but I do have the birth certificate of Thomas and Elizabeth Westall's son William born December 1838 in Camden Town. No mention of the name Walter on the certificate. However he is the one who married Harriet Crossman in 1859 and I have nine children for him, including sons Walter Robert, William George, Charles (who married Alice Jane Carter in 1892) By the way, although it looks like St Mayoline on the census records, we have established that Thomas Westall was actually born at St Magdalen, Oxford and married there in 1815. Also there was another daughter, Elizabeth born c1818 Newbury. Hope this is of interest to the mysterious person who was making inquiries about this line. Regards, Patricia Harper E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11280 http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ <http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/> E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11280 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/