Bob, There is no child Emma born to John and Elizabeth.. Can you tell me why you think this , please ? The Emma WESTALL born c 1872, I have, was the daughter of Henry WESTALL and wife Eliza [nee PIKE] and she married William LANE 29 Oct 1892, Ramsbury. Beryl In a message dated 10/25/2009 10:49:52 A.M. Central Daylight Time, bobatbmw@cox.net writes: Beryl, I come up with two more daughters for John Westall and Elizabeth nee Vockins besides the oneS you mentioned. I have included the 1851 census through 1891 census for your revues. These Census show an Elizabeth Bet. Jul - Sep 1846; a Mary Bef. 02 Jul 1848 and I believe. There is a possibly an Emma Westall b Bet. Apr - Jun 1872? Bob 1851 England Census Name: John Westall Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Ham, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Ramsbury County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: 50 Axford Occupation: Agri Labourer Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Hungerford Sub registration district: Kintbury ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 50 John Westall Head..M..32..Agri Labourer..Wilts, Ham Elizabeth Westall Wife..M..27..........................Wilts, Ramsbury Eliza Westall Dau...S....5...........................Wilts, Mildenhall Mary Westall Dau...S...3...........................Wilts, Ramsbury Sarah Westall Dau...S...5 Mo........................Wilts, Ramsbury ################################ 1861 England Census Name: John Westall Age: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Axford, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Ramsbury County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: 42 Lab Cottage Occupation: Field Laborer Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Hungerford Sub registration district: Hungerford ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 42 John Westall Head..M..43..Field Laborer..Axford, Wilts Elizabeth Westall Wife..M..37.........................Ramsbury, Wilts Eliza Westall Dau..S..14..Field Laborer..Mildenhall, Wilts Mary Westall Dau..S..12..Field Laborer..Axford, Wilts Sarah Westall Dau..S..10..Field Laborer..Axford, Wilts Jane Westall Dau..S....5.........................Axford, Wilts Anne Westall Dau..S....3.........................Axford, Wilts ############################## 1871 England Census Name: John Westall Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Ham, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Ramsbury Town: Axford County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: 46 Axford Occupation: Carter Ag Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Hungerford Sub registration district: Hungerford ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 46 John Westall Head..M..50..Carter Ag..Wilts, Ham Elizabeth Westall Wife..M..47....................Wilts, Ramsbury Mary Westall Dau...S..22..Ag Lab......Wilts, Axford Elizabeth Westall Dau...S...8..Scholar......Wilts, Axford William Westall Son...S...6..Scholar......Wilts, Axford Henry Westall Son...S...4.....................Wilts, Axford Emma Westall Dau...S...3 months.........Wilts, Axford John Palmer Lodger..M..22..Carter.........Wilts, Cadley Sarah Palmer Lodger..M..20..Ag Lab.......Wilts, Axford Ann Westall Visitor...S....2 ....................Wilts, Axford ############################### 1881 England Census Name: John Westall Age: 63 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizth. Gender: Male Where born: Ham, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Ramsbury County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Carter Registration district: Hungerford Sub registration district: Hungerford ED, institution, or vessel: 17 John Westall Head..M..63..Carter...Wilts, Ham Elizth. Westall Wife..M..57...........Wilts, Ramsbury Elizth. Westall Dau...S..18..Ag Lab...Wilts, Axford Henry Westall Son...S..14..Ag Lab...Wilts, Axford ############################## 1891 England Census Name: John Westall Age: 73 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Hamburg, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Ramsbury Ecclesiastical parish: Ramsbury Town: Axford County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street address: 68 Stone Lane Occupation: General Laborer Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Hungerford Sub registration district: Hungerford ED, institution, or vessel: 16 John Westall Head..M..73..General Laborer..Ham, Wilts Elizabeth Westall Wife..M..65...............................Ramsbury, Wilts William Westall Son..S...26..General Laborer...Axford, Wilts ############################## Taken from Free BMD Deaths Mar 1892 (>99%) WESTALL John 74 Hungerford 2c 261 ############################## -----Original Message----- From: westall-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:westall-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bdm2918@aol.com Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:14 AM To: westall@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WESTALL] Henry William Westall b 1867 Devozes, Wiltshire It is Devizes and it is not too far away from Axford, BUT I do not think this is the right Henry WESTALL. Also I do not think that Hamberg is right. The children of John WESTALL and Elizabeth nee VOCKINS were Sarah, 1850, William 1852, Jane 1855, Anne 1857, Thomas 1859, Elizabeth 1862, William 1864 and Henry about 1867. I have the family in 1861, 1881 and 1891 census. Hope this helps. Beryl Metherell virus/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.13550 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message