This original, from December 2004. I had just started looking into my family tree, very much a newbie, copied and pasted it into my tree(mind you, with full references, so I knew where the information had come from!) Sorry to say, Bob, that it is incorrect. 1871 census Charles Houghton, Head, Mar, M, 27, Iron plate worker, Hampshire, Portsmouth Sarah L Houghton, Wife, Mar, F, 22, Formerly mantle maker, Hampshire, Portsmouth Louisa S Hoghton, Daur, F, 5, Scholar, Hampshire, Portsmouth George E Houghton, Son, M, 1, Middx, St Pancras Address 4, Hanway Place, St Pancras lass: RG10; Piece: 208; Folio: 23; Page: 40 So it looks like a second marriage for Charles E Houghton I'm rather glad about that, otherwise Mary Maria Westall would have been not only unmarried, which I can live with, but also only 10 years old when Louisa S Houghton was born!! Mar 1865 Vol 2b p528 Marriages Portsea Charles Edwin Houghton Sarah Louisa Verlin Deaths Pancras Mar qtr 1878 Vol 1b p54 Sarah Louisa HOUGHTON, Aged 29 Marriages Pancras Sep qtr 1880 Vol 1b p118 Charles Edwin Houghton Mary Maria Westall In 1881 census, the Houghton family had a visitor, Frank Verlin, born Portsmouth, giving added credence to the marriage detailed above. And in 1901, Grace is staying with her grandparents - Thomas J Westall, Head, Mar, M, 63, Boot Leather& [ ], Own account from home, London, St Giles Mary Westall, Wife, Mar, F, 62, London, St Martins Amelia Westall, Daur, Unm, F, 28, Assistant Boot Store, London, St Pancras Grace Houghton, Grandaur, Unm, 19, Assistant Boot Store, London, St Pancras Address 129/131, Cromer Street, St Pancras, London RG 13/140 Folio 59 p7 Margaret From: "Bob Westall" <bobatbmw@cox.net> Subject: Thomas John Westall Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 20:58:12 -0500 MARY M WESTALLwas born 1856 in St Pancras, Middlesex, Eng.. She married CHARLES E. HOUGHTON He was born 1844 in Portsmouth, Hampshire, Eng. Children of MARY WESTALL and CHARLES HOUGHTON are: i. SARAH L HOUGHTON, b. 1866, St Pancras, London, Middlesex, Eng. ii. GEORGE E. HOUGHTON, b. 1870, St Pancras, London, Middlesex, Eng. iii. GRACE T. HOUGHTON, b. 1882, St Pancras, London, Middlesex, Eng. iv. CHARLES E. HOUGHTON, JR., b. 1884, St Pancras, London, Middlesex, Eng. v. CONSTANCE M. HOUGHTON, b. 1886, St Pancras, London, Middlesex, Eng. vi. CHRISTINE E. HOUGHTON, b. 1887, St Pancras, London, Middlesex, Eng. _________________________________________________________________ Download the new Windows Live Toolbar, including Desktop search! http://toolbar.live.com/?mkt=en-gb