Eileen, I have included my notes for Thomas Westall, and his wife Sarah nee Dobson. I too came up with 12 children but do they agree with your 12? You mentioned that John Newman Westall b 1815 was you Great Grandfather I Believe. Which of his children was your grandparent? Also you mentioned you were born in England I believe. How did you happened to go to Australia? As usual more questions than answers. Regards Bob 1871 England Census Name: Thomas Westall Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Ramsbury, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Ramsbury County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: Oxford St. Occupation: Ag Laborer Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Hungerford Sub registration district: Hungerford ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 46 Thomas Westall Head..M..28..Ag Laborer..Wilts, Ramsbury Sarah Westall Wife..M..30..Ag Laborer..Wilts, Ramsbury Manas Westall Son...S....6..Scholar........Wilts, Ramsbury "I believe this is Thomas" George Westall Son...S....5..Scholar........Wilts, Ramsbury James Westall Son...S....3......................Wilts, Ramsbury Harriet E Westall Dau...S....6 months.........Wilts, Ramsbury ############################# 1881 England Census Name: Thomas Westel Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Ramsbury, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Ramsbury County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: Blind Lane Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Ag Lab Registration district: Hungerford Sub registration district: Hungerford ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Thomas Westel Head..M..39..Ag Laborer....Wilts, Ramsbury Sarah Westel Wife..M..40...................... .Wilts, Ramsbury Thomas Westel Son...S..16..Under Carter..Wilts, Ramsbury George Westel Son...S..15..Under Carter..Wilts, Ramsbury James Westel Son...S..13..Plough Boy.....Wilts, Ramsbury Harriet Westel Dau...S..10..Scholar...........Wilts, Ramsbury William J. Westel Son...S....8..Scholar...........Wilts, Ramsbury Maurice Westel Son...S....7..Scholar...........Wilts, Ramsbury John Westel Son...S....5..Scholar...........Wilts, Ramsbury Louisa Westel Dau...S....3..Scholar...........Wilts, Ramsbury Henry Westel Son...S.....1........................Wilts, Ramsbury ######################## 1891 England Census Name: Thomas Westall Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Ramsbury, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Ramsbury Ecclesiastical parish: Ramsbury Town: Ramsbury County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: 62 Blind Lane Occupation: General Laborer Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Hungerford Sub registration district: Hungerford ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Thomas Westall Head..M..51..General Laborer..Wilts, Ramsbury Sarah Westall Wife..M..50...............................Wilts, Ramsbury George Westall Son...S..25..Farm Lab Ag.........Wilts, Ramsbury John Westall Son...S..15..Woodman.............Wilts, Ramsbury Louisa Westall Dau...S..13...............................Wilts, Ramsbury Harry Westall Son...S..11..Scholar.................Wilts, Ramsbury Fred Westall Son...S...9..Scholar..................Wilts, Ramsbury James Westall Son...S...6..Scholar..................Wilts, Ramsbury Edward Westall Son...S...3..................................Wilts, Ramsbury ########################### 1901 England Census Name: Thomas Westall Age: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Ramsbury, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Ramsbury Ecclesiastical parish: Ramsbury Holy Cross Town: Ramsbury County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: 120 High St. Occupation: Estate Laborer Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Hungerford Sub registration district: Hungerford ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 120 Thomas Westall Head..M..60..Estate Laborer..Worker..Wilts, Ramsbury Sarah Westall Wife..M..59..........................................Wilts, Ramsbury George Westall Son...S..35..Cattle Man..........Worker..Wilts, Ramsbury Louisa Westall Dau..S..23...........................................Wilts, Ramsbury Fredrick Westall Son..S..19..??????????.....................Wilts, Ramsbury James Westall Son..S..16..Boot Boy Domestic..........Wilts, Ramsbury Edward Westall Son..S..13..Teaster............................Wilts, Ramsbury ########################### Taken from Free BMD Deaths Mar 1908 WESTALL Thomas Hungerford 2c 186 The district Hungerford spans the boundaries of the counties of Berkshire, Hampshire and Wiltshire From: J & E Armstrong [mailto:ellmay7@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 3:18 AM To: Bob Westall Subject: George Westall 1806 Bob Thank for all that script, I had the names but not addresses. I have another Westall connection, or so claimed, Through the Pike Family. George Westall b 1854 m Martha Ann Pike 26 Aug 1876 but can't find her amongst all the Pikes. The family tree ia actually the Starbucks through a 2nd wife but I am lost. Thanks again Eileen E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11080 http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ <http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/> E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11080 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/