Hi Gillian, It's very nice to hear from you again. It'll be good to confirm notes with you on this particular Westall branch. I have a Thomas Westall (bap. 2 Jul 1766, Hungerford) mar. Mary Heuse (b.1775, Bisham Berks) on 5 Jun 1801 in Cookham, Berks. I have 7 children for them, some being Westall and some being Westell. Could this be another Westell variant? Thomas's parents were William Westall (b.1736) and Anne Savage (b.1734) who married 9 Jun 1760 in Hungerford. They had 6 children all born in Hungerford. William's father was Edward Westall (b. 1697, Hungerford) who married Elizabeth? They had 9 children. Edwards parents were Edward Westall (b.1664, Hungerford) and Elizabeth Head who married 4 Oct 1694 in Ashbury. Edward's parents were William Westall and Mary Chilvester who had 5 children. Edward's bro. was William Westall (1673, Chute) who married Martha King on 17 Oct 1699 in Chute, Wilts. Your family line (Wastell) is very interesting. First you managed to beat all of us by transposing the 'a' and the 'e' (;o)), and secondly didn't your ancestors come to London via Hertfordshire and have a few artists of their own? The Westall artists (Richard and William) originated in Norfolk and then moved to Hertfordshire. I think there's a slim possibility the famous artists may well be connected with your branch and that your branch may well be connected with mine. Just a thought. I'd be proud to have you as a cousin ;0) Once the connections between the artist Westall's the Wiltshire Westall's and the Wastell's are established then our family tree will suddenly expand dramatically! Just the lancashire westall's (around Bradford/Oswaldwistle) to connect and I think we've got all the UK Westall's... Just a thought and a challenge for all Westall's out there. Fred -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gillian Ford" <gford1@bigpond.net.au> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:01 AM To: <westall@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [WESTALL] Mark Westall b ca. 1705 b.1673 > Dear Fred: You know that Richard Westall and his brother came from > Norwich. You and I have been in touch over the Hungerford Westalls two > of whom went to Cookham/Maidenhead. Their ancestor was William Westall > and Mary Chilvester. In the 1851 census, Thomas is still alive (b. > 1766) and it says he comes from Fairford, Gloucester. Yet, he came > from the Hungerford line of Westalls who are traceable back 200 years. > It's hard to see that it could be a mistake. Did he know something we > don't? > > Gill (Wastell) Ford > > On 01/10/2008, at 5:45 PM, Fred Westall wrote: > >> Hi Christine, >> I've been in touch with a descendant of the Westall artists (Richard >> Westall) and so far we have not found a definite link between our >> respective >> branches. It's possible there is a connection via William Westall >> (b.1638) >> who married Mary Chilvester (b.1638). Mary's parents were Edmund >> Chilvester >> (b.1610) and Mary Clidsdale (b. 1612) who married 29 Jul 1632 in >> Hungerford. >> The Westall artists line is very interesting and there are quite a few >> Reverends as well as the Wilfred Westall, the Bishop of Crediton in >> that >> line. In fact Bishop Wilfred Westall's line can be traced back to >> 1066 and >> all that! So let's hope the connection is made in due course. >> Fred >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Christine Charles" <chris1@bigpond.net.au> >> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 10:59 PM >> To: <westall@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [WESTALL] Mark Westall b ca. 1705 >> >>> HI again >>> >>> Do you think that the painter was related to us Fred? >>> Wouldn't that be wonderful to find out >>> >>> He certainly didn't pas any of his talent to me though >>> >>> LOLL >>> >>> Christine >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Fred Westall" <fred_westall@msn.com> >>> To: <westall@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:05 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WESTALL] Mark Westall b ca. 1705 >>> >>> >>>> Eileen, >>>> >>>> I know Australian's are VERY pleased when they find convicts in the >>>> family. >>>> It's a bit like us poms feel when we find we are related to Diana >>>> (which >>>> I'm >>>> not, by the way!). >>>> William Westall was transported to NSW for his part in the Berkshire >>>> 'Swing' >>>> Riots. He was arrested in Kintbury and convicted at Reading >>>> Assizes on 27 >>>> Dec 1830. He got a Life sentence (one of four that day I >>>> believe). He >>>> sailed on the Prison Hulk, Eleanor from Portsmouth on 15 Feb 1831 >>>> and was >>>> finally freed on 9 Nov 1837 after serving just 7 years. It's not >>>> clear >>>> what happened after that but he was 20 at the time of his >>>> deportation >>>> which >>>> would give him a dob of about 1810. The only William Westall I >>>> can't >>>> account for was the son of Thomas Westall (b.1770) and Sarah Bray >>>> (b.1766). >>>> William was baptised on 16 Nov 1806 in Baydon which makes him a >>>> bit old - >>>> but possibly still our wayward lad. This would make him my 3rd >>>> cousin 5 >>>> times removed. There are a couple of other possible candidates, >>>> but this >>>> is >>>> the only one I can't account for after 1830. >>>> Hope this helps. >>>> >>>> William Westall ARA was the brother of Richard Westall RA the famous >>>> painter >>>> (who also taught Queen Victoria to paint in watercolour). >>>> William was >>>> on >>>> the pioneering Flinders expedition to map Australia and he painted >>>> the >>>> first >>>> landscape pictures of the continent. There is even a Mount >>>> Westall named >>>> after him situated on the north-eastern side of Shoalwater Bay in >>>> Queensland. I'm told it's a very remote place but if we design a >>>> special >>>> Westall flag do you think you could please pop up there to plant it? >>>> ... >>>> just kidding! ^_^ >>>> >>>> Fred >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "J & E Armstrong" <ellmay1@bigpond.com> >>>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 2:51 AM >>>> To: <westall@rootsweb.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [WESTALL] Mark Westall b ca. 1705 >>>> >>>>> Bob >>>>> I have Sarah b 1733, Charity b 1738 and Mary b 1740 as Appleford >>>>> sisters >>>>> of >>>>> Jane Appleford married to Richard Westall b 1730. >>>>> I wish there weren't so many duplications of christian names in >>>>> large >>>>> Westall families. >>>>> Whilst I am here I have two transported Westalls to offer.... 1 >>>>> William >>>>> Westall aboard the "Eleanor" in 1831 to Sydney and also Richard >>>>> Westall >>>>> in >>>>> 1835 aboard the "Lord William Bentwick" to Tasmania. >>>>> Both committed crimes associated with the farmworkers riots in that >>>>> era.. >>>>> I have not been able to locate family for them , or Henry Westall >>>>> either. >>>>> Henry doesn't feature in muJohn Appleford Westall family. >>>>> >>>>> Eileen >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>> the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >