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    1. Re: [WESTALL] Mark Westall
    2. Fred Westall
    3. Hi Dorothy My 4th great grandfather David Westall married Hannah Sims on 26 Oct 1777 in Inkpen, Wilts. They had three children: 1. George Westall (bap. 3 May 1780 in Kintbury, Berks). He married Mary Ann Brooks (bap. 21 Jul 1782, Preshute Wilts) on 13 Jun 1808 in Kintbury. 2. William Westall (bap. 12 Jan 1783 in Kintbury, Berks). He married Rachel Westall (b.1779) on 19 Jun 1803 in Shalbourne, Wilts. She was William's cousin. 3. Sarah Westall (bap. 23 Nov 1777 in Kintbury, Berks). I know nothing more about Sarah and I would be grateful for any information. I have six David Westall's on my family tree in addition to my direct ancestor above:. 1. David Westall (bap. 12 Oct 1783, Aldbourne Wilts) who married Anne Marshall (bap. 21 Mar 1784, Ramsbury) on 10 Oct 1808 in Lambourne. They had 6 children one being William Westall (bap 31 Dec 1809, Lambourne). 2. David Westall (bap. 07 Jul 1804, Lambourne) who married Elizabeth (?) and had 5 children, one of whom was : 3. David Westall (bap. 13 Nov 1831, Lambourne Berks). 4. David Westall (bap. 15 Nov 1840, Baydon) son of William Westall and Elizabeth Addis (m.18 Nov 1837, Baydon). 5. David Richard Westall (b. 1882, Lambourne), killed in action in Amara, Iraq on 2 Jul 1916. 6. David Anthony Westall (b. 15 Mar 1941, Barry) None of these fit your profile so I'd be interested to know more about 'your' David. Regards, Fred -------------------------------------------------- From: "Dorothy Jones" <dee-jay@jones2115.fsnet.co.uk> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 11:34 AM To: <westall@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [WESTALL] Mark Westall > Fred > > I don't suppose 'your' David had sons named William or John > who went eastwards working on the Kennet & Avon Canal? > > Dorothy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fred Westall" <fred_westall@msn.com> > To: <westall@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 11:48 AM > Subject: Re: [WESTALL] Mark Westall > > > 'Snipped' > The River Kennet flows nearby and further downstream is > the town of Kintbury and some major locks on the Kennet and > Avon Canal where my 4th great grandfather David Westall (b. > 1752, Baydon Wilts) made the giant leap from working in > agriculture to the industrial revolution as a canal > labourer. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    10/27/2008 10:51:19
    1. Re: [WESTALL] Mark Westall
    2. Dorothy Jones
    3. Hi Fred & Christine I'm sorry to have confused you but I did not intend to infer that I had a David amongst my WESTALLs. It was the occupation that I was pursuing as I have found two, so far unconnected, WESTALL bargemen operating out of Newbury in the first quarter of the 19th Century: John WESTALL & Charlotte [nee BRUNSDON] at Quarrington's Yard in 1815 [Toomer's Census]. William WESTALL & Sarah [nee LEWIS] married 1820 at Newbury St Nicolas [my direct ancestors]. After Charlotte's death John moved on to Reading, remarried to Sarah WYATT and became a Barge Agent. However, neither of these menfolk lived to complete an 1851 Census return giving their origins; in fact William did not even make it to 1841 so I don't know if he was born in County, let alone his parentage. No occupations were recorded for widow Sarah or her sons in 1841. Like David, these WESTALLs must have made an early transition from the land to industry as I have yet to find any entries in PRs recording them as Ag Labs. The 1851 Enumerator, or his superior, returned to 'my' WESTALLs' schedule and inserted an out-of alignment 'Ag' in front of the original Labourer entries, when these WESTALLs had already evolved to the plumbing/bricklaying/painter & decorator trades, the latter probably accounting for their early demise due to lead pigment. William had provided a very confident signature at marriage; two of his sons were articulate Nonconformists who, following in their mother's footsteps, became members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints in the 1840s. William junr became an Elder and Francis a Teacher of the Gospel. However, I have a strong suspicion that they may have switched allegiance from the Primitive Brethren but I have yet to find provenance. I find that bargemen are as problematic as coachmen: if they did not live to see the 1851 Enumerator and there is no family hearsay, the link to earlier generations is extremely elusive as their dependants don't appear to have resorted to parish relief! Kind regards. Dorothy

    10/27/2008 10:44:14
    1. Re: [WESTALL] Mark Westall
    2. Christine Charles
    3. Ok Sorry I mustn't have read it properly Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Jones" <dee-jay@jones2115.fsnet.co.uk> To: <westall@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [WESTALL] Mark Westall > Hi Fred & Christine > > I'm sorry to have confused you but I did not intend to infer > that I had a David amongst my WESTALLs. It was the > occupation that I was pursuing as I have found two, so far > unconnected, WESTALL bargemen operating out of Newbury in > the first quarter of the 19th Century: > > John WESTALL & Charlotte [nee BRUNSDON] at Quarrington's > Yard in 1815 [Toomer's Census]. > William WESTALL & Sarah [nee LEWIS] married 1820 at Newbury > St Nicolas [my direct ancestors]. > > After Charlotte's death John moved on to Reading, remarried > to Sarah WYATT and became a Barge Agent. However, neither > of these menfolk lived to complete an 1851 Census return > giving their origins; in fact William did not even make it > to 1841 so I don't know if he was born in County, let alone > his parentage. No occupations were recorded for widow Sarah > or her sons in 1841. > > Like David, these WESTALLs must have made an early > transition from the land to industry as I have yet to find > any entries in PRs recording them as Ag Labs. The 1851 > Enumerator, or his superior, returned to 'my' WESTALLs' > schedule and inserted an out-of alignment 'Ag' in front of > the original Labourer entries, when these WESTALLs had > already evolved to the plumbing/bricklaying/painter & > decorator trades, the latter probably accounting for their > early demise due to lead pigment. > > William had provided a very confident signature at marriage; > two of his sons were articulate Nonconformists who, > following in their mother's footsteps, became members of the > Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints in the 1840s. > William junr became an Elder and Francis a Teacher of the > Gospel. However, I have a strong suspicion that they may > have switched allegiance from the Primitive Brethren but I > have yet to find provenance. > > I find that bargemen are as problematic as coachmen: if > they did not live to see the 1851 Enumerator and there is no > family hearsay, the link to earlier generations is extremely > elusive as their dependants don't appear to have resorted to > parish relief! > > Kind regards. > Dorothy > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    10/29/2008 12:32:36