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    1. [WESTALL] Thomas George Westall
    2. Bob Westall
    3. For all of those from the North Carolina Westall Family the following may be of some interest. There is a great deal of controversy as to whether there were two brothers that the North Carolina Westall family is descended from or whether there was only the one man by the name of Westall that the whole family is descended from. Regardless, this Thomas Westall came from North Carolinas via Tennessee and made quite a wide swath when he went to Texas in the mid 1820's as part of the Old Three Hundred settlers brought to Texas by Stephen F. Austin. When Thomas Westall's estate was probated ca. 1838 it was worth $398,000! Both Thomas and his eldest son James M. Westall received land in Texas and both died in 1833 as did a host of others in the Cholera epidemic of August 1833. Many of the Austin family had left San Felipe de Austin and went to the Westall Plantation to get away from the Cholera epidemic. The tragedy was that they brought the Cholera to the plantation and many died as a result. Bob http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/WW/fwe35.html WESTALL, THOMAS (?-1833). Thomas Westall, member of the Old Three Hundred.qv, was on his way to Texas from Tennessee in April 1824, when he stopped at Alexandria, Louisiana, where J. Thomas gave him a letter of recommendation to Stephen F. Austin.qv As one of Austin's Old Three Hundred settlers, Westall received title to two leagues and two labors of land in what became Wharton, Fort Bend, and Austin counties on July 19, 1824. In August 1824 Westall hired four slaves to Austin as part payment for his land. Westall went back to Tennessee and laid in a supply of merchandise in the fall of 1824. Both Stephen F. and J. E. B. Austin.qv bought supplies from him in March 1825. J. E. B. Austin married Westall's daughter, Eliza, in 1825 or 1826. The census of 1826 classified Westall as a farmer and stock raiser, aged between twenty-five and forty. His household included his wife, two sons, a daughter, and four slaves. In 1830 Westall agreed to build a brick house and do some fencing in San Felipe in return for building lots there. His plantation near the McNeil plantation on the Brazos River had a school taught by Timothy B. Phelps.qv In June 1832 Westall was on a committee to decide whether or not citizens at Brazoria should take part in the war against the Mexican garrison at Anahuac (see ANAHUAC DISTURBANCES). He was sent by John Austin.qv to order the Mexican collector at Brazoria to give up his arms and ammunition. Westall died in a cholera epidemic in 1833; James F. Perryqv wrote Austin of claims being made on his estate by persons in Tennessee. BIBLIOGRAPHY: Eugene C. Barker, ed., The Austin Papers (3 vols., Washington: GPO, 1924-28). Eugene C. Barker, ed., "Minutes of the Ayuntamiento of San Felipe de Austin, 1828-1832," 12 parts, Southwestern Historical Quarterly 21-24 (January 1918-October 1920). Lester G. Bugbee, "The Old Three Hundred: A List of Settlers in Austin's First Colony," Quarterly of the Texas State Historical Association 1 (October 1897). Marie Beth Jones, Peach Point Plantation: The First 150 Years (Waco: Texian Press, 1982). P. E. Peareson, "Reminiscences of Judge Edwin Waller," Quarterly of the Texas State Historical Association 4 (July 1900). Edna Rowe, "The Disturbances at Anahuac in 1832," Quarterly of the Texas State Historical Association 6 (April 1903). Noah Smithwick, The Evolution of a State, or Recollections of Old Texas Days (Austin: Gammel, 1900; rpt., Austin: University of Texas Press, 1983). Telegraph and Texas Register, March 28, 1837. Visit to Texas (New York, Goodrich & Wiley, 1834; Austin, Steck, 1952). E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) Database version: 5.10870e http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/

    10/09/2008 11:38:23
    1. Re: [WESTALL] Thomas George Westall
    2. Tom Camfield
    3. Hello, Bob (and all), Tom Camfield here. I dug up quite a bit about old Thomas Westall for my book published in 1998. The identity of Thomas has never been determined quite to everyone's satisfaction, and as near as I could tell, the confusion originated back in North Carolina, where some barely informed descendants confused him with his son William Brittain Westall. Before heading to Texas, he was fairly prominent in Tennessee (after leaving his first wife), where he also is said to have had a "plantation" and kept slaves. But my research in Tennessee came up short on several fronts. If my memory serves without digging out the book, he settled in Winchester, Tenn. I'm pretty sure this guy lied about his age along the way. The census records don't gibe too well from one to another. He was pretty well along in years when he took part in the Battle of Velasco, a prelude to the War with Mexico. I know that you, Bob, have all of this info, but if any of the others want some of it in further detail, I'd be happy to try and pass some of it along. I still have a few extras of my 350-pp hardcover books on "The Westalls and Their Kin." They cost me too much ($190 each to print up), but I'd be happy to donate a couple to libraries with decent genealogical sections. Some libraries back in N. C., one in Texas, and a few others already have it. Regards, Tom On Oct 9, 2008, at 2:38 PM, Bob Westall wrote: > For all of those from the North Carolina Westall Family the > following may be > of some interest. There is a great deal of controversy as to > whether there > were two brothers that the North Carolina Westall family is > descended from > or whether there was only the one man by the name of Westall that > the whole > family is descended from. > > Regardless, this Thomas Westall came from North Carolinas via > Tennessee and > made quite a wide swath when he went to Texas in the mid 1820's as > part of > the Old Three Hundred settlers brought to Texas by Stephen F. > Austin. When > Thomas Westall's estate was probated ca. 1838 it was worth > $398,000! Both > Thomas and his eldest son James M. Westall received land in Texas > and both > died in 1833 as did a host of others in the Cholera epidemic of > August 1833. > Many of the Austin family had left San Felipe de Austin and went to > the > Westall Plantation to get away from the Cholera epidemic. The > tragedy was > that they brought the Cholera to the plantation and many died as a > result. > > > > > Bob > > > > http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/WW/fwe35.html > > > > > > WESTALL, THOMAS (?-1833). Thomas Westall, member of the Old Three > Hundred.qv, was on his way to Texas from Tennessee in April 1824, > when he > stopped at Alexandria, Louisiana, where J. Thomas gave him a letter of > recommendation to Stephen F. Austin.qv As one of Austin's Old Three > Hundred > settlers, Westall received title to two leagues and two labors of > land in > what became Wharton, Fort Bend, and Austin counties on July 19, > 1824. In > August 1824 Westall hired four slaves to Austin as part payment for > his > land. Westall went back to Tennessee and laid in a supply of > merchandise in > the fall of 1824. Both Stephen F. and J. E. B. Austin.qv bought > supplies > from him in March 1825. J. E. B. Austin married Westall's daughter, > Eliza, > in 1825 or 1826. The census of 1826 classified Westall as a farmer > and stock > raiser, aged between twenty-five and forty. His household included > his wife, > two sons, a daughter, and four slaves. In 1830 Westall agreed to > build a > brick house and do some fencing in San Felipe in return for building > lots > there. His plantation near the McNeil plantation on the Brazos River > had a > school taught by Timothy B. Phelps.qv In June 1832 Westall was on a > committee to decide whether or not citizens at Brazoria should take > part in > the war against the Mexican garrison at Anahuac (see ANAHUAC > DISTURBANCES). > He was sent by John Austin.qv to order the Mexican collector at > Brazoria to > give up his arms and ammunition. Westall died in a cholera epidemic > in 1833; > James F. Perryqv wrote Austin of claims being made on his estate by > persons > in Tennessee. > > > > BIBLIOGRAPHY: Eugene C. Barker, ed., The Austin Papers (3 vols., > > Washington: GPO, 1924-28). Eugene C. Barker, ed., "Minutes of the > Ayuntamiento of San Felipe de Austin, 1828-1832," 12 parts, > Southwestern > Historical Quarterly 21-24 (January 1918-October 1920). Lester G. > Bugbee, > "The Old Three Hundred: A List of Settlers in Austin's First Colony," > > Quarterly of the Texas State Historical Association 1 (October > 1897). Marie > Beth Jones, Peach Point Plantation: The First 150 Years (Waco: > Texian Press, > 1982). P. E. Peareson, "Reminiscences of Judge Edwin Waller," > > Quarterly of the Texas State Historical Association 4 (July 1900). > Edna > Rowe, "The Disturbances at Anahuac in 1832," Quarterly of the Texas > State > Historical Association 6 (April 1903). Noah Smithwick, The Evolution > of a > State, or Recollections of Old Texas Days (Austin: Gammel, 1900; rpt., > > Austin: University of Texas Press, 1983). Telegraph and Texas > Register, > March 28, 1837. Visit to Texas (New York, Goodrich & Wiley, 1834; > Austin, > Steck, 1952). > > > > > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) > Database version: 5.10870e > http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

    10/09/2008 09:13:13
    1. Re: [WESTALL] Thomas George Westall
    2. Chris Galbreath
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Camfield" <camfield@olympus.net> To: <westall@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [WESTALL] Thomas George Westall Tom, I'm Chris Westall Galbreath descendant of the William Bury Westall line in Lancashire. Does your book address any of those Westall's? Regarding Texas .... Thomas Westall had a neighbor, Thomas P. Crosby whose wife Clementina was the sister of my ggggrandmother (Jane Murray Sheldon). Thanks, Chris > Hello, Bob (and all), Tom Camfield here. > > I dug up quite a bit about old Thomas Westall for my book published in > 1998. The identity of Thomas has never been determined quite to > everyone's satisfaction, and as near as I could tell, the confusion > originated back in North Carolina, where some barely informed > descendants confused him with his son William Brittain Westall. Before > heading to Texas, he was fairly prominent in Tennessee (after leaving > his first wife), where he also is said to have had a "plantation" and > kept slaves. But my research in Tennessee came up short on several > fronts. If my memory serves without digging out the book, he settled > in Winchester, Tenn. > > I'm pretty sure this guy lied about his age along the way. The census > records don't gibe too well from one to another. He was pretty well > along in years when he took part in the Battle of Velasco, a prelude > to the War with Mexico. > > I know that you, Bob, have all of this info, but if any of the others > want some of it in further detail, I'd be happy to try and pass some > of it along. I still have a few extras of my 350-pp hardcover books on > "The Westalls and Their Kin." They cost me too much ($190 each to > print up), but I'd be happy to donate a couple to libraries with > decent genealogical sections. Some libraries back in N. C., one in > Texas, and a few others already have it. > > Regards, > Tom > > On Oct 9, 2008, at 2:38 PM, Bob Westall wrote: > >> For all of those from the North Carolina Westall Family the >> following may be >> of some interest. There is a great deal of controversy as to >> whether there >> were two brothers that the North Carolina Westall family is >> descended from >> or whether there was only the one man by the name of Westall that >> the whole >> family is descended from. >> >> Regardless, this Thomas Westall came from North Carolinas via >> Tennessee and >> made quite a wide swath when he went to Texas in the mid 1820's as >> part of >> the Old Three Hundred settlers brought to Texas by Stephen F. >> Austin. When >> Thomas Westall's estate was probated ca. 1838 it was worth >> $398,000! Both >> Thomas and his eldest son James M. Westall received land in Texas >> and both >> died in 1833 as did a host of others in the Cholera epidemic of >> August 1833. >> Many of the Austin family had left San Felipe de Austin and went to >> the >> Westall Plantation to get away from the Cholera epidemic. The >> tragedy was >> that they brought the Cholera to the plantation and many died as a >> result. >> >> >> >> >> Bob >> >> >> >> http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/WW/fwe35.html >> >> >> >> >> >> WESTALL, THOMAS (?-1833). Thomas Westall, member of the Old Three >> Hundred.qv, was on his way to Texas from Tennessee in April 1824, >> when he >> stopped at Alexandria, Louisiana, where J. Thomas gave him a letter of >> recommendation to Stephen F. Austin.qv As one of Austin's Old Three >> Hundred >> settlers, Westall received title to two leagues and two labors of >> land in >> what became Wharton, Fort Bend, and Austin counties on July 19, >> 1824. In >> August 1824 Westall hired four slaves to Austin as part payment for >> his >> land. Westall went back to Tennessee and laid in a supply of >> merchandise in >> the fall of 1824. Both Stephen F. and J. E. B. Austin.qv bought >> supplies >> from him in March 1825. J. E. B. Austin married Westall's daughter, >> Eliza, >> in 1825 or 1826. The census of 1826 classified Westall as a farmer >> and stock >> raiser, aged between twenty-five and forty. His household included >> his wife, >> two sons, a daughter, and four slaves. In 1830 Westall agreed to >> build a >> brick house and do some fencing in San Felipe in return for building >> lots >> there. His plantation near the McNeil plantation on the Brazos River >> had a >> school taught by Timothy B. Phelps.qv In June 1832 Westall was on a >> committee to decide whether or not citizens at Brazoria should take >> part in >> the war against the Mexican garrison at Anahuac (see ANAHUAC >> DISTURBANCES). >> He was sent by John Austin.qv to order the Mexican collector at >> Brazoria to >> give up his arms and ammunition. Westall died in a cholera epidemic >> in 1833; >> James F. Perryqv wrote Austin of claims being made on his estate by >> persons >> in Tennessee. >> >> >> >> BIBLIOGRAPHY: Eugene C. Barker, ed., The Austin Papers (3 vols., >> >> Washington: GPO, 1924-28). Eugene C. Barker, ed., "Minutes of the >> Ayuntamiento of San Felipe de Austin, 1828-1832," 12 parts, >> Southwestern >> Historical Quarterly 21-24 (January 1918-October 1920). Lester G. >> Bugbee, >> "The Old Three Hundred: A List of Settlers in Austin's First Colony," >> >> Quarterly of the Texas State Historical Association 1 (October >> 1897). Marie >> Beth Jones, Peach Point Plantation: The First 150 Years (Waco: >> Texian Press, >> 1982). P. E. Peareson, "Reminiscences of Judge Edwin Waller," >> >> Quarterly of the Texas State Historical Association 4 (July 1900). >> Edna >> Rowe, "The Disturbances at Anahuac in 1832," Quarterly of the Texas >> State >> Historical Association 6 (April 1903). Noah Smithwick, The Evolution >> of a >> State, or Recollections of Old Texas Days (Austin: Gammel, 1900; rpt., >> >> Austin: University of Texas Press, 1983). Telegraph and Texas >> Register, >> March 28, 1837. Visit to Texas (New York, Goodrich & Wiley, 1834; >> Austin, >> Steck, 1952). >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) >> Database version: 5.10870e >> http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    10/09/2008 01:27:20