Dear Fred: You know that Richard Westall and his brother came from Norwich. You and I have been in touch over the Hungerford Westalls two of whom went to Cookham/Maidenhead. Their ancestor was William Westall and Mary Chilvester. In the 1851 census, Thomas is still alive (b. 1766) and it says he comes from Fairford, Gloucester. Yet, he came from the Hungerford line of Westalls who are traceable back 200 years. It's hard to see that it could be a mistake. Did he know something we don't? Gill (Wastell) Ford On 01/10/2008, at 5:45 PM, Fred Westall wrote: > Hi Christine, > I've been in touch with a descendant of the Westall artists (Richard > Westall) and so far we have not found a definite link between our > respective > branches. It's possible there is a connection via William Westall > (b.1638) > who married Mary Chilvester (b.1638). Mary's parents were Edmund > Chilvester > (b.1610) and Mary Clidsdale (b. 1612) who married 29 Jul 1632 in > Hungerford. > The Westall artists line is very interesting and there are quite a few > Reverends as well as the Wilfred Westall, the Bishop of Crediton in > that > line. In fact Bishop Wilfred Westall's line can be traced back to > 1066 and > all that! So let's hope the connection is made in due course. > Fred > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Christine Charles" <chris1@bigpond.net.au> > Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 10:59 PM > To: <westall@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [WESTALL] Mark Westall b ca. 1705 > >> HI again >> >> Do you think that the painter was related to us Fred? >> Wouldn't that be wonderful to find out >> >> He certainly didn't pas any of his talent to me though >> >> LOLL >> >> Christine >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Fred Westall" <fred_westall@msn.com> >> To: <westall@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:05 PM >> Subject: Re: [WESTALL] Mark Westall b ca. 1705 >> >> >>> Eileen, >>> >>> I know Australian's are VERY pleased when they find convicts in the >>> family. >>> It's a bit like us poms feel when we find we are related to Diana >>> (which >>> I'm >>> not, by the way!). >>> William Westall was transported to NSW for his part in the Berkshire >>> 'Swing' >>> Riots. He was arrested in Kintbury and convicted at Reading >>> Assizes on 27 >>> Dec 1830. He got a Life sentence (one of four that day I >>> believe). He >>> sailed on the Prison Hulk, Eleanor from Portsmouth on 15 Feb 1831 >>> and was >>> finally freed on 9 Nov 1837 after serving just 7 years. It's not >>> clear >>> what happened after that but he was 20 at the time of his >>> deportation >>> which >>> would give him a dob of about 1810. The only William Westall I >>> can't >>> account for was the son of Thomas Westall (b.1770) and Sarah Bray >>> (b.1766). >>> William was baptised on 16 Nov 1806 in Baydon which makes him a >>> bit old - >>> but possibly still our wayward lad. This would make him my 3rd >>> cousin 5 >>> times removed. There are a couple of other possible candidates, >>> but this >>> is >>> the only one I can't account for after 1830. >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> William Westall ARA was the brother of Richard Westall RA the famous >>> painter >>> (who also taught Queen Victoria to paint in watercolour). >>> William was >>> on >>> the pioneering Flinders expedition to map Australia and he painted >>> the >>> first >>> landscape pictures of the continent. There is even a Mount >>> Westall named >>> after him situated on the north-eastern side of Shoalwater Bay in >>> Queensland. I'm told it's a very remote place but if we design a >>> special >>> Westall flag do you think you could please pop up there to plant it? >>> ... >>> just kidding! ^_^ >>> >>> Fred >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "J & E Armstrong" <ellmay1@bigpond.com> >>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 2:51 AM >>> To: <westall@rootsweb.com> >>> Subject: Re: [WESTALL] Mark Westall b ca. 1705 >>> >>>> Bob >>>> I have Sarah b 1733, Charity b 1738 and Mary b 1740 as Appleford >>>> sisters >>>> of >>>> Jane Appleford married to Richard Westall b 1730. >>>> I wish there weren't so many duplications of christian names in >>>> large >>>> Westall families. >>>> Whilst I am here I have two transported Westalls to offer.... 1 >>>> William >>>> Westall aboard the "Eleanor" in 1831 to Sydney and also Richard >>>> Westall >>>> in >>>> 1835 aboard the "Lord William Bentwick" to Tasmania. >>>> Both committed crimes associated with the farmworkers riots in that >>>> era.. >>>> I have not been able to locate family for them , or Henry Westall >>>> either. >>>> Henry doesn't feature in muJohn Appleford Westall family. >>>> >>>> Eileen >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message