Nancy, This email address for you is 8 years old but here goes. In your emails of 2001 you mentioned your James Westall had a daughter Mary Ann Westall b 1845 in Rochdale, d 1889 Rochdale. The only Mary Ann born in Rochdale, as per Free BMD, was born Bet. Jul - Sep 1850 in Rochdale, Vol. 21, Page 769. Of course that does not mean there was not another but it does not show if there is. There are two parallel James & Alice Westall families it would appear? This James would be a little young as would his wife Alice b 1837 to have Mary Ann in 1845? But amuzingly he is a Basket Maker? Taken from the 1881 British census LDS Dwelling: 5 Fieldhouse Lane Census Place: Wardleworth, Lancashire, England Source: FHL Film 1341985 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 4116 Folio 114 Page 52 Marr Age Sex Birthplace James WESTHALL M 53 M Rochdale, Lancashire, England Rel: Head Occ: Basket Maker Alice WESTHALL M 44 F Bury, Lancashire, England Rel: Wife Thomas J. WESTHALL U 20 M Bury, Lancashire, England Rel: Son Occ: Roving Carrier (Cotton Mill) Mary Ellen WESTHALL U 17 F Oldham, Lancashire, England Rel: Daur Occ: Throstle Piecer (Cotton Mill) Richard WESTHALL 13 M Rochdale, Lancashire, England Rel: Son Occ: Doffer In (Cotton) The second which may tie in with your James Westall also shows in the 1881 British Census! But he shows as a farm laborer but he is the right age? Taken from the 1881 British Census Dwelling: Peel Fold Farm Census Place: Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England Source: FHL Film 1342007 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 4202 Folio 109 Page 26 Marr Age Sex Birthplace James WESTALL M 66 M Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England Rel: Head Occ: Farm Labourer Alice WESTALL M 61 F Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England Rel: Mar With Genealogy there are always more questions than you get answers? Bob E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.12650 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/