Dorothy, The best suggestion I have come up with relevant to William parents and place of birth would probably be his death certificate as mentioned in an earlier email. Earlier you had mentioned not to worry about the census material but it is hard to follow the trail if you don't keep track of them! J Anyway, one thing led to another and I finally decided that William & Sarah deserve their own Westall Family Group. What I came up with follows. I hope there is material in it that will be of some use to you. If you find any goofs please let me know. Oh yes, all of the children that are in the 1856 Iowa State Census are also in the 1860 US Census, but Sarah Westall is not. This being so Sarah may or may not have died in the severe winter of 1856 but none of her grandchildren died that winter. Ebenezer was in the 1870 census but I could not find him after that. This Descendants of William Westall is in two emails. This is the first. Regards Bob Descendants of William Westall Generation No. 1 1. WILLIAM1 WESTALL was born 1800 in England, and died Bet. Jul - Sep 1840 in Marylebone ,Middlesex, Eng. He married SARAH LEWIS 16 May 1820 in Newbury, Berkshire, England. She was born 1803 in England, and died Aft. 1856 in Kane, Council Bluffs, Pottawattamie Co., IA. Notes for WILLIAM WESTALL: Taken from Free BMD Deaths Sep 1840 (99%) WESTALL William Marylebone 1 10_ The district Marylebone spans the boundaries of the counties of London and Middlesex Notes for SARAH LEWIS: New Orleans Passenger Lists, 1820-1945 Name: Sarah Westhall Arrival Date: 7 Mar 1853 Age: 50 Gender: Female Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Ship Name: Ellen Maria Port of Arrival: New Orleans, Louisiana National Archives' Series Number: M259 More About SARAH LEWIS: Census: 1856, Kane, Council Bluffs, Pottawattamie Co., IA, lived with daughter Mary Ann & family. Immigration: 07 Mar 1853, Departed Liverpool, Eng. on the ship Ellen Maria, and landed at New Orleans, Louisiana on 7 Mar 1853 Marriage Notes for WILLIAM WESTALL and SARAH LEWIS: www.familysearch.org William Westall Marylebone 16 MAY 1820 Newbury, Berkshire, England Child of WILLIAM WESTALL and SARAH LEWIS is: 2. i. MARY ANN2 WESTALL, b. 1825, England; d. Aft. 1895, Kane, Council Bluffs, Pottawattamie Co., IA. Generation No. 2 2. MARY ANN2 WESTALL (WILLIAM1) was born 1825 in England, and died Aft. 1895 in Kane, Council Bluffs, Pottawattamie Co., IA. She married GEORGE CANNING Bet. Oct - Dec 1842 in Newbury, Berkshire, Eng. He was born 1824 in England, and died Aft. 1895 in Kane, Council Bluffs, Pottawattamie Co., IA. Notes for MARY ANN WESTALL: From: westall-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:westall-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dorothy Jones Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 6:18 PM To: westall@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WESTALL] Booth Winkley Westall b 1844, Manchester, Lancashire, Eng. And of course, there is also 'my' William WESTALL - origins unknown - who married Sarah LEWIS, a minor, in 1820 at Newbury St Nicolas. He died in 1840, supposedly aged 39, and left no clue in a census whether or not he was Berkshire-born. I've only recently discovered that widow Sarah WESTHALL [sic] left these shores [UK] in 1853 in the wake of her only daughter, Mary Ann CANNING, on the Mormon trail to Utah: last sighting 1856 with George CANNING, Mary Ann & family at Council Bluffs, Pottawattamie Co., Iowa. The impending Winter was the worst on record: the mercury sunk to minus 36%. Did she perish with a couple of her CANNING grandsons? How on earth did they accomplish burials in those conditions? Sadly, I may never know, but I live in hope that 'something will turn up ..........' The elder CANNINGs remained at Council Bluffs for life, but one son did complete the trek to Salt Lake City in the early 1900s. One recorded his mother's maiden name WESTON instead of WESTALL at marriage, so that may cause problems for his branch should they research their origins from USA. ################################# Iowa State Census, 1895 Name: Mary Canning Age: 72 Race: White Birthplace: England RESIDENCE: Connect Bluffs;Kane, Pottawattamie More About MARY ANN WESTALL: Census: 1850, District 21, Pottawattamie Co., IA Immigration: 23 Oct 1849 Occupation: 1880, Keeping House Notes for GEORGE CANNING: New Orleans Passenger Lists, 1820-1945 Name: Mary A Canning Arrival Date: 23 Oct 1849 Age: 24 Gender: Female Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Ship Name: James Pennell Port of Arrival: New Orleans, Louisiana National Archives' Series Number: George Canning 25..Male....Taylor..England Mary A. 24..Female............England Mary G. 6..Female.............England George 4..Male..................England Ebeneza 2..Male..................England ############################### 1850 United States Federal Census Name: George Canning Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824 Birth Place: England Gender: Male Home in 1850(City,County,State): District 21, Pottawattamie, Iowa George Canning 26..M..Tailor..England Mary Ann 24 ..F.............England Mary 7..F .............England George 5..M.............England Ebenezer 4..M.............England Alice 2..F.............England ############################### Iowa State Census Collection, 1836-1925 Name: George Canning Census Date: 1851 Residence County: Pottawattamie Residence State: Iowa Gender: Male Birth Year: abt 1823 Line: 35 Roll: IA_118 George Canning 28 Mary Ann 27 Mary J. 7 George 6 Ebenezer 4 Alice 2 ################################ Iowa State Census Collection, 1836-1925 Name: George Canning Census Date: 1856 Residence County: Pottawattamie Residence State: Iowa Locality: Kane Birth Location: England Family Number: 71 Marital Status: Married Gender: Male Birth Year: abt 1821 Line: 18 Roll: IA_64 George Canning 35..M..7..England..Farmer Mary Ann 30..F..7..England Mary Jane 13..F..7..England Geo 11..M..7..England Ebenezer 9..M..7..England Allice 7..F..7..England Orson 5..M.....IA Frank 1..M.....IA Sarah Westall 52..F..7..England Horatio Lovell 25..M.....England...Laborer Lewis Rubell 34..M.....France.....Laborer Henry Erchell 19..M.....Germany..Laborer Thomas Mason 20..M..2.England....Laborer Thomas Davis 23..M.....Wales......Laborer Alexander McCurdy 35..M..1..PA..........Laborer ############################### 1860 United States Federal Census Name: George Caning Age in 1860: 34 Birth Year: abt 1826 Birthplace: England Home in 1860: Kane, Pottawattamie, Iowa Gender: Male Post Office: Council Bluffs George Caning 34..M..Tailor..600..200..England Mary Ann 31..F...House Work.......England Mary J 15..F..............................England George 13..M.............................England Ebenezer 12..M.............................IA Alice 10..F..............................IA Orson 8..M.............................IA Frank 6..M.............................IA Albert 4..M.............................IA Ellen 1..F.............................IA John Huntington 33..M............................IL ################################ 1870 United States Federal Census Name: George Canning Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Age in 1870: 25 Birthplace: England Home in 1870: Council Bluffs Ward 1, Pottawattamie, Iowa Race: White Gender: Male Post Office: Council Bluffs G Canning 50..M..W..Taylor..1500..500..England M A 45..F..W....Keeping House.....England George 25..M..W.................................England Aben 22..M..W................................England Alice 21..F..W................................England Frank 17..M..W................................IA Albert 14..M..W................................IA Nellie 11..F..W.................................IA Wm 8..M..W................................IA Edward 7..M..W................................IA Kate 5..F..W.................................IA Walter 1..M..W.................................IA #################################### 1880 United States Federal Census Name: Geo. Canning Home in 1880: Council Bluffs, Pottawattamie, Iowa Age: 57 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823 Birthplace: England Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head) Spouse's Name: Mary A. Father's birthplace: England Mother's birthplace: England Occupation: Tailor Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Geo. Canning W..M..57..........Tailor...................Eng..Eng..Eng Mary A. W..F..56..Wife..Keeping House...Eng..Eng..Eng Alice W..F..27..Dau............................... Eng..Eng..Eng Frank W..M..22..Son.............................. IA..Eng..Eng Albert W..M..21..Son...............................IA..Eng..Eng William W..M..19..Son...............................IA..Eng..Eng Nellie W..F..19..Dau................................IA..Eng..Eng Edward W..M..17..Son...............................IA..Eng..Eng Kate W..F..15..Dau................................IA..Eng..Eng Walter W..M..11..Son................................IA..Eng..Eng ################################## Iowa State Census Collection, 1836-1925 Name: George Canning Census Date: 1885 Residence County: Pottawattamie Residence State: Iowa Locality: Council Bluffs Ward 1 Birth Location: England Family Number: 612 Marital Status: Married Gender: Male Birth Year: abt 1822 Line: 11 Roll: IA1885_253 Township 75, Range 43, Section 30 George Canning 63..M..M..Tailor................England Mary A 62..F..M............................England William 24..M..S..Mechanic...........IA Kate 20..F...S............................IA Walter 14..M..S............................IA ################################## Iowa State Census, 1895 Name: George Canning Age: 73 Race: White Birthplace: England RESIDENCE: Connect Bluffs;Kane, Pottawattamie More About GEORGE CANNING: Census: 1850, District 21, Pottawattamie Co., IA Immigration: 23 Oct 1849, Departed Liverpool, Eng. on the ship James Pennell, and landed at New Orleans, Louisiana on 23 Oct 1849 Occupation: 1850, Tailor Marriage Notes for MARY WESTALL and GEORGE CANNING: Taken from Free BMD Marriages Dec 1842 CANNING George Newbury 6 379 Westall Mary Ann Newbury 6 379 The district Newbury spans the boundaries of the counties of Berkshire and Hampshire Children of MARY WESTALL and GEORGE CANNING are: 3. i. MARY JANE3 CANNING, b. Bet. Jul - Sep 1843, Newbury, Berkshire, Eng. ii. GEORGE CANNING, b. Bet. Jan - Mar 1845, Newbury, Berkshire, Eng. Notes for GEORGE CANNING: Taken from Free BMD Births Mar 1845 CANNING George Newbury 6 233 More About GEORGE CANNING: Census: 1850, District 21, Pottawattamie Co., IA, lived with parents. iii. EBENEZER CANNING, b. Bet. Oct - Dec 1846, Newbury, Berkshire, Eng. Notes for EBENEZER CANNING: Taken from Free BMD Births Dec 1846 Canning Ebenezer Newbury 6 234 More About EBENEZER CANNING: Census: 1850, District 21, Pottawattamie Co., IA, lived with parents. iv. ALICE CANNING, b. Bet. Jul - Sep 1848, Newbury, Berkshire, Eng. Notes for ALICE CANNING: Taken from Free BMD Births Sep 1848 CANNING Alice Newbury 6 212 More About ALICE CANNING: Census: 1850, District 21, Pottawattamie Co., IA, lived with parents. v. ORSON CANNING, b. 1852, Council Bluffs, Pottawattamie Co., IA. More About ORSON CANNING: Census: 1856, Kane, Council Bluffs, Pottawattamie Co., IA, lived with parents. vi. FRANK CANNING, b. Sep 1854, Council Bluffs, Pottawattamie Co., IA. Notes for FRANK CANNING: 1900 United States Federal Census Name: Frank Canning Home in 1900: Omaha Ward 5, Douglas, Nebraska Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Birthplace: Iowa Relationship to head-of-house: Head Race: White Frank Canning Head..W..M..Sep 1854..46..s..IA..Eng..Eng..Machinist More About FRANK CANNING: Census: 1856, Kane, Council Bluffs, Pottawattamie Co., IA, lived with parents. Occupation: 1900, Machinist vii. ALBERT CANNING, b. 1856, Council Bluffs, Pottawattamie Co., IA. More About ALBERT CANNING: Census: 1860, Kane, Pottawattamie Co., IA, living with parents viii. ELLEN 'NELLIE" CANNING, b. 1859, Council Bluffs, Pottawattamie Co., IA. More About ELLEN 'NELLIE" CANNING: Census: 1860, Kane, Pottawattamie Co., IA, living with parents 4. ix. NELLIE CANNING, b. 1861, Council Bluffs, Pottawattamie Co., IA; d. Bet. 1920 - 1930, Rochester, Olmsted Co., MN. 5. x. WILLIAM CANNING, b. Jan 1861, Council Bluffs, Pottawattamie Co., IA. 6. xi. EDWARD CANNING, b. Feb 1863, Council Bluffs, Pottawattamie Co., IA. xii. KATE CANNING, b. 1865, Council Bluffs, Pottawattamie Co., IA. Notes for KATE CANNING: Iowa State Census, 1895 Name: Katie Canning Age: 29 Race: White Birthplace: Pottawattamie RESIDENCE: Connect Bluffs;Kane, Pottawattamie More About KATE CANNING: Census: 1895, Kane, Council Bluffs, Pottawattamie Co., IA E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) Database version: 5.10440e http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/