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    1. Re: [WESTALL] (no subject)
    2. Gillian Ford
    3. I am working on an assignment on the Swing Riots. The conditions in England were dreadful for the agricultural labourer. I read today about four of them dying under a hedge from starvation. Gill On 19/05/2009, at 9:08 PM, FredW wrote: > Gill, > I know that a Richard Westall was transported to Tasmania in 1830 on > the > Lord William Bentinck for his part in the Berkshire Swing Riots. I > don't > know what happened to him after that. One possibility is Richard > Westall > (bap 25 May 1758, Hungerford). I believe he married Caroline Lumley > on 24 > Aug 1815. So far I know of only two Westall's (William and > Richard) who > were convicted for their part in the Swing Riots in 1830 (named after > 'Captain Swing' and his machine breakers). Coincidentally, another > William Westall ARA accompanied Flinders on his expedition to map > Australia > and made some of the earliest landscape pictures of the continent. > He was > the brother of the famous artist Richard Westall RA (who taught the > young > Queen Victoria to paint in watercolours). I am certain that these two > Richard/Westall artists were in no way associated with the Swing > Riots! ;o) > William Westall even has a mountain (Mt. Westall) named after him in > Queensland. In case you know anyone influential (like an expert on > Swing > riots for example!) I am still waiting and willing for someone to > offer me > a mountain to be named after! ;0) > It's amazing that you are a student of Prof. David Kent who I knew had > authored a book on the convicts of the Eleanor (with Norma > Townsend). I > must get a copy as it sounds like compulsory reading to me. (I > believe it > is available in the UK published by Merlin Press Ltd). Summary: > 'This book > focuses on the men of the convict transport Eleanor, who arrived in > NSW in > 1831. They were all from the counties of Berkshire, Dorset, > Hampshire and > Wiltshire and were transported for their part in the Swing riots-the > great > agricultural protest of 1830-31. This episode spread across much of > southern > England and has been called the last peasants' revolt, led to more > than 480 > people being sent to Australia ("the largest single group in the > history of > transportation") (George Rude). > Thanks for this lead. Tis indeed a small World! > Fred > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Gillian Ford" <gford1@bigpond.net.au> > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:38 AM > To: <westall@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [WESTALL] (no subject) > >> Thanks Fred, Good to hear from you; I think most convicts didn't come >> back. I believe there was also a Richard Westall who went to Tasmania >> from Berks. (but I am working from memory). >> >> I was reading a book by David Kent on the Convicts who went on the >> Eleanor and came across the name. I am at uni, and he is my professor >> in this subject. So it's a small world. >> >> >> Gill >> >> >> On 19/05/2009, at 8:25 PM, FredW wrote: >> >>> Hi Gillian, >>> This is what I have in my notes, 'William Westall was transported to >>> NSW in >>> 1830 for his part in the Berkshire 'Swing' riots. He had been >>> arrested in >>> Kintbury, Berks. He appears on the convicts list for the prison >>> hulk >>> Eleanor, which sailed from Portsmouth for NSW on 15th Feb 1831 (he >>> had been >>> convicted at Reading Assizes on 27 Dec 1830 and was given a Life >>> sentence). >>> He was freed on 9 Nov 1837 so he had served just 7 years of his >>> sentence. >>> It is not clear what happened to him after he was freed, but >>> possibly he >>> returned to the UK. Note that at the time of deportation it was >>> stated he >>> was 20 yrs old, which would have given a birth date of abt. 1810.' >>> The only William Westall I have on my tree who could fit the above >>> profile >>> was born in abt 1806 in Baydon, Wilts. He was the son of Thomas >>> Westall >>> (1770, Baydon) and Sarah Bray (1766, Baydon). It would still make >>> him 3 or >>> 4 years older than stated on the assize court record. But all my >>> other >>> William Westall's born around that time are accounted for. >>> I hope this helps. Of course, there could be a lot of his >>> descendants in >>> the antipodes waiting for us to track them down! >>> Regards, >>> Fred >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Gillian Ford" <gford1@bigpond.net.au> >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:09 AM >>> To: <westall@rootsweb.com> >>> Subject: Re: [WESTALL] (no subject) >>> >>>> Does anyone know who the William Westall was from Kintbury or >>>> Hungerford who was sent to (I think) Tasmania for participating in >>>> riots about 1830? This was a time when agricultural labourers were >>>> starving and rose all over the southern and eastern counties of the >>>> UK, and the ruling classes came down extremely hard on >>>> participants. >>>> >>>> I just read about him, had heard of him before. There is a William >>>> Westall born in Hungerford in 1796, and he does not appear in the >>>> 1841 >>>> census, so I wondered could it be him. >>>> >>>> Gillian Ford >>>> >>>> On 18/05/2009, at 3:29 AM, Bob Westall wrote: >>>> >>>>> Scott, >>>>> >>>>> Yes, I believe we have been in contact before and yes I have >>>>> quite a >>>>> bit on >>>>> the Westall family of North Carolina and would be glad to share it >>>>> with you. >>>>> >>>>> Bob >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: westall-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:westall-bounces@rootsweb.com >>>>> ] On >>>>> Behalf Of swestall >>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 3:04 PM >>>>> To: westall@rootsweb.com >>>>> Subject: [WESTALL] (no subject) >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> My name is James Scott Westall, I think that maybe we had some >>>>> contact years >>>>> ago. I have lost all the records off that old computer so I'm not >>>>> sure.. >>>>> My Father was Beufort or Beauford Scott Westall of East Flat >>>>> Rock ,NC. >>>>> (different family records have his name spelled both ways. H was >>>>> one of ten >>>>> Children. If I can be of help let me know and if you have any >>>>> information >>>>> on my ancestry I would like to hear from you. >>>>> >>>>> Scott Westall >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>> the >>>>> quotes >>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) >>>>> Database version: 6.12400 >>>>> http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) >>>>> Database version: 6.12400 >>>>> http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com >>>>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>>>> the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>> the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

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