Hi Gillian, This is what I have in my notes, 'William Westall was transported to NSW in 1830 for his part in the Berkshire 'Swing' riots. He had been arrested in Kintbury, Berks. He appears on the convicts list for the prison hulk Eleanor, which sailed from Portsmouth for NSW on 15th Feb 1831 (he had been convicted at Reading Assizes on 27 Dec 1830 and was given a Life sentence). He was freed on 9 Nov 1837 so he had served just 7 years of his sentence. It is not clear what happened to him after he was freed, but possibly he returned to the UK. Note that at the time of deportation it was stated he was 20 yrs old, which would have given a birth date of abt. 1810.' The only William Westall I have on my tree who could fit the above profile was born in abt 1806 in Baydon, Wilts. He was the son of Thomas Westall (1770, Baydon) and Sarah Bray (1766, Baydon). It would still make him 3 or 4 years older than stated on the assize court record. But all my other William Westall's born around that time are accounted for. I hope this helps. Of course, there could be a lot of his descendants in the antipodes waiting for us to track them down! Regards, Fred -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gillian Ford" <gford1@bigpond.net.au> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:09 AM To: <westall@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [WESTALL] (no subject) > Does anyone know who the William Westall was from Kintbury or > Hungerford who was sent to (I think) Tasmania for participating in > riots about 1830? This was a time when agricultural labourers were > starving and rose all over the southern and eastern counties of the > UK, and the ruling classes came down extremely hard on participants. > > I just read about him, had heard of him before. There is a William > Westall born in Hungerford in 1796, and he does not appear in the 1841 > census, so I wondered could it be him. > > Gillian Ford > > On 18/05/2009, at 3:29 AM, Bob Westall wrote: > >> Scott, >> >> Yes, I believe we have been in contact before and yes I have quite a >> bit on >> the Westall family of North Carolina and would be glad to share it >> with you. >> >> Bob >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: westall-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:westall-bounces@rootsweb.com >> ] On >> Behalf Of swestall >> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 3:04 PM >> To: westall@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [WESTALL] (no subject) >> >> Hi, >> My name is James Scott Westall, I think that maybe we had some >> contact years >> ago. I have lost all the records off that old computer so I'm not >> sure.. >> My Father was Beufort or Beauford Scott Westall of East Flat Rock ,NC. >> (different family records have his name spelled both ways. H was >> one of ten >> Children. If I can be of help let me know and if you have any >> information >> on my ancestry I would like to hear from you. >> >> Scott Westall >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) >> Database version: 6.12400 >> http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ >> >> >> >> >> >> E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) >> Database version: 6.12400 >> http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Fred, Good to hear from you; I think most convicts didn't come back. I believe there was also a Richard Westall who went to Tasmania from Berks. (but I am working from memory). I was reading a book by David Kent on the Convicts who went on the Eleanor and came across the name. I am at uni, and he is my professor in this subject. So it's a small world. Gill On 19/05/2009, at 8:25 PM, FredW wrote: > Hi Gillian, > This is what I have in my notes, 'William Westall was transported to > NSW in > 1830 for his part in the Berkshire 'Swing' riots. He had been > arrested in > Kintbury, Berks. He appears on the convicts list for the prison hulk > Eleanor, which sailed from Portsmouth for NSW on 15th Feb 1831 (he > had been > convicted at Reading Assizes on 27 Dec 1830 and was given a Life > sentence). > He was freed on 9 Nov 1837 so he had served just 7 years of his > sentence. > It is not clear what happened to him after he was freed, but > possibly he > returned to the UK. Note that at the time of deportation it was > stated he > was 20 yrs old, which would have given a birth date of abt. 1810.' > The only William Westall I have on my tree who could fit the above > profile > was born in abt 1806 in Baydon, Wilts. He was the son of Thomas > Westall > (1770, Baydon) and Sarah Bray (1766, Baydon). It would still make > him 3 or > 4 years older than stated on the assize court record. But all my > other > William Westall's born around that time are accounted for. > I hope this helps. Of course, there could be a lot of his > descendants in > the antipodes waiting for us to track them down! > Regards, > Fred > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Gillian Ford" <gford1@bigpond.net.au> > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:09 AM > To: <westall@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [WESTALL] (no subject) > >> Does anyone know who the William Westall was from Kintbury or >> Hungerford who was sent to (I think) Tasmania for participating in >> riots about 1830? This was a time when agricultural labourers were >> starving and rose all over the southern and eastern counties of the >> UK, and the ruling classes came down extremely hard on participants. >> >> I just read about him, had heard of him before. There is a William >> Westall born in Hungerford in 1796, and he does not appear in the >> 1841 >> census, so I wondered could it be him. >> >> Gillian Ford >> >> On 18/05/2009, at 3:29 AM, Bob Westall wrote: >> >>> Scott, >>> >>> Yes, I believe we have been in contact before and yes I have quite a >>> bit on >>> the Westall family of North Carolina and would be glad to share it >>> with you. >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: westall-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:westall-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> ] On >>> Behalf Of swestall >>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 3:04 PM >>> To: westall@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [WESTALL] (no subject) >>> >>> Hi, >>> My name is James Scott Westall, I think that maybe we had some >>> contact years >>> ago. I have lost all the records off that old computer so I'm not >>> sure.. >>> My Father was Beufort or Beauford Scott Westall of East Flat >>> Rock ,NC. >>> (different family records have his name spelled both ways. H was >>> one of ten >>> Children. If I can be of help let me know and if you have any >>> information >>> on my ancestry I would like to hear from you. >>> >>> Scott Westall >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) >>> Database version: 6.12400 >>> http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) >>> Database version: 6.12400 >>> http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>> the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Gill, I know that a Richard Westall was transported to Tasmania in 1830 on the Lord William Bentinck for his part in the Berkshire Swing Riots. I don't know what happened to him after that. One possibility is Richard Westall (bap 25 May 1758, Hungerford). I believe he married Caroline Lumley on 24 Aug 1815. So far I know of only two Westall's (William and Richard) who were convicted for their part in the Swing Riots in 1830 (named after 'Captain Swing' and his machine breakers). Coincidentally, another William Westall ARA accompanied Flinders on his expedition to map Australia and made some of the earliest landscape pictures of the continent. He was the brother of the famous artist Richard Westall RA (who taught the young Queen Victoria to paint in watercolours). I am certain that these two Richard/Westall artists were in no way associated with the Swing Riots! ;o) William Westall even has a mountain (Mt. Westall) named after him in Queensland. In case you know anyone influential (like an expert on Swing riots for example!) I am still waiting and willing for someone to offer me a mountain to be named after! ;0) It's amazing that you are a student of Prof. David Kent who I knew had authored a book on the convicts of the Eleanor (with Norma Townsend). I must get a copy as it sounds like compulsory reading to me. (I believe it is available in the UK published by Merlin Press Ltd). Summary: 'This book focuses on the men of the convict transport Eleanor, who arrived in NSW in 1831. They were all from the counties of Berkshire, Dorset, Hampshire and Wiltshire and were transported for their part in the Swing riots-the great agricultural protest of 1830-31. This episode spread across much of southern England and has been called the last peasants' revolt, led to more than 480 people being sent to Australia ("the largest single group in the history of transportation") (George Rude). Thanks for this lead. Tis indeed a small World! Fred -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gillian Ford" <gford1@bigpond.net.au> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:38 AM To: <westall@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [WESTALL] (no subject) > Thanks Fred, Good to hear from you; I think most convicts didn't come > back. I believe there was also a Richard Westall who went to Tasmania > from Berks. (but I am working from memory). > > I was reading a book by David Kent on the Convicts who went on the > Eleanor and came across the name. I am at uni, and he is my professor > in this subject. So it's a small world. > > > Gill > > > On 19/05/2009, at 8:25 PM, FredW wrote: > >> Hi Gillian, >> This is what I have in my notes, 'William Westall was transported to >> NSW in >> 1830 for his part in the Berkshire 'Swing' riots. He had been >> arrested in >> Kintbury, Berks. He appears on the convicts list for the prison hulk >> Eleanor, which sailed from Portsmouth for NSW on 15th Feb 1831 (he >> had been >> convicted at Reading Assizes on 27 Dec 1830 and was given a Life >> sentence). >> He was freed on 9 Nov 1837 so he had served just 7 years of his >> sentence. >> It is not clear what happened to him after he was freed, but >> possibly he >> returned to the UK. Note that at the time of deportation it was >> stated he >> was 20 yrs old, which would have given a birth date of abt. 1810.' >> The only William Westall I have on my tree who could fit the above >> profile >> was born in abt 1806 in Baydon, Wilts. He was the son of Thomas >> Westall >> (1770, Baydon) and Sarah Bray (1766, Baydon). It would still make >> him 3 or >> 4 years older than stated on the assize court record. But all my >> other >> William Westall's born around that time are accounted for. >> I hope this helps. Of course, there could be a lot of his >> descendants in >> the antipodes waiting for us to track them down! >> Regards, >> Fred >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Gillian Ford" <gford1@bigpond.net.au> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:09 AM >> To: <westall@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [WESTALL] (no subject) >> >>> Does anyone know who the William Westall was from Kintbury or >>> Hungerford who was sent to (I think) Tasmania for participating in >>> riots about 1830? This was a time when agricultural labourers were >>> starving and rose all over the southern and eastern counties of the >>> UK, and the ruling classes came down extremely hard on participants. >>> >>> I just read about him, had heard of him before. There is a William >>> Westall born in Hungerford in 1796, and he does not appear in the >>> 1841 >>> census, so I wondered could it be him. >>> >>> Gillian Ford >>> >>> On 18/05/2009, at 3:29 AM, Bob Westall wrote: >>> >>>> Scott, >>>> >>>> Yes, I believe we have been in contact before and yes I have quite a >>>> bit on >>>> the Westall family of North Carolina and would be glad to share it >>>> with you. >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: westall-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:westall-bounces@rootsweb.com >>>> ] On >>>> Behalf Of swestall >>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 3:04 PM >>>> To: westall@rootsweb.com >>>> Subject: [WESTALL] (no subject) >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> My name is James Scott Westall, I think that maybe we had some >>>> contact years >>>> ago. I have lost all the records off that old computer so I'm not >>>> sure.. >>>> My Father was Beufort or Beauford Scott Westall of East Flat >>>> Rock ,NC. >>>> (different family records have his name spelled both ways. H was >>>> one of ten >>>> Children. If I can be of help let me know and if you have any >>>> information >>>> on my ancestry I would like to hear from you. >>>> >>>> Scott Westall >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) >>>> Database version: 6.12400 >>>> http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) >>>> Database version: 6.12400 >>>> http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com >>>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>>> the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >