Well well well it appears that Ernest aka Charles, deserted ship - Thanks Dorothy and to your mate for your great detective work. Sounds like he started a new life in Australia after deserting ship in Sydney and that would explain how he got here and why he isn't on passenger lists at the National Archives etc. I will get onto a mailing list I am part of on immigration and see if more info can be found on him from those crew lists. Mum & I are planning on getting a copy of his death cert from QLD as soon as we can afford it - to me it appears that by the time he died he 'felt' free enough to make known his mother's correct maiden name of HEAD as opposed to ALLEN on his marriage cert. I have to wonder if he was still married to Louie when he married my Great Grandma - mmmm I wonder if he remarried after he left Great Grandma somewhere after 1930? The plot thickens..... I am off now to get my magnifying glass and play detective.... Sherlock Holmes eat your heart out!!!!! Cheers Julie ----- Original Message ----- From: Dorothy Jones To: Julie Watt ; westall@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 12:46 AM Subject: Re: [WESTALL] Charles Westall Middlesex to Australia Courtesy of a mate, these were Crew lists: Name: E F Westall Estimated birth year: abt 1875 Age: 31 Port of Departure: London Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales Voyage Arrival Date: 1 Jun 1906 Vessel Name: Ormuz Name: E F Westall Estimated birth year: abt 1875 Age: 31 Port of Departure: Brisbane Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales Voyage Arrival Date: 11 Jun 1906 Vessel Name: Ormuz Name: E F Westall Estimated birth year: abt 1876 Age: 30 Port of Departure: London Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales Voyage Arrival Date: 5 Oct 1906 Vessel Name: Orient Name: E F Westall Estimated birth year: abt 1876 Age: 30 Port of Departure: Brisbane Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales Voyage Arrival Date: 15 Oct 1906 Vessel Name: Orient Note: DESERTED at Brisbane 13.10.06 I have put out a 'feeler' to a WESTALL researcher in close proximity to Newbury who may be able to access a report in the Newbury Weekly News on the 1889 trial. The details in the Criminal Register are contained in a one-line entry in a Home Office Return from Newbury Borough: Name: Ernest Francis WESTALL Offences of which those tried were Convicted [&c]: Felony - Larceny of person Date of Session: 23 Oct 1889 Convicted and Sentenced: Penal Servitude 5 years Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Watt" <wattlebee@bigpond.com> To: <westall@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [WESTALL] Charles Westall Middlesex to Australia > > Hi from downunder > > Dorothy & Bob it sure was interesting to learn that Ernest > (?aka) Charles was married and had a daughter - I don't > have access to view the 1901 census but I was able to > search and see that there was a Charles married to a > Louie. > > Now to find out when he did come to Australia under which > name and whether he left his wife and child behind. > > On ancestry I found a few entries for an E F Westall on > the New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant > Passenger Lists 1826-1922 arriving Sydney - does anyone > have access to the record/image? I also notice there is > Ernest Francis on England & Wales Criminal Register > residing in Berkshire on 23 Oct 1889 that I would love to > see too. > > I also found a listing for a Mr E Westall who arrived in > May 1914 but was aged 19 - however I don't think we could > really believe any age as far as Charles was concerned. > > I will see what I can find out with regards the above > Westall passengers > Cheers Julie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message