Hi Dorothy Thank you for the very 'interesting' information on our Charles aka Ernest Westall - every piece of information that you find indicates to me that Charles and Ernest are indeed one and the same. I haven't had time to really digest what you sent me the other day and today because I am in the middle of moving house and if that isn't enough I have hurt my back in the process. I cannot sit and can stand and lie down on my left side at intervals - this is the first time I've been able to go online for many days so I am not able to do anything much for the time being. My family history files are in a box somewhere!!! I do appreciate your help with solving the Charles Westall mystery - will be in touch ASAP Cheers Julie laidup downunder LOL ---- Dorothy Jones <dee-jay@jones2115.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: ============= Having given Julie a fortnight to 'digest' the court reports published in the Newbury Weekly News, the recorded facts are these: In either 1882 or 1884 [more likely the latter year] Ernest Francis WESTALL brought himself to the notice of the law: sacrilege [break-in] at Ashmore Green Chapel, for which he was sentenced to 10 days' imprisonment and five years at an industrial/reformatory school. Before the expiration of the sentence he was sent to Canada but worked his way back to the UK. At County Petty Sessions on 03 Aug 1889, charged with larceny [stealing a watch & chain], he was sentenced to two months' hard labour. [When apprehended he had given his name as 'Charles BROWN'!] At Newbury Borough Quarter Sessions on 23 Oct 1889, aged 16, charged with larceny [stealing a pocket-book, rule, handkerchief and other articles] on 09 Oct [eight days after leaving prison for previous offence], he was sentenced to 5 years' penal servitude. It appears that although at the time of the last offence Ernest was in pursuit of work, which was refused at the premises prior to what would now be viewed as an opportunist theft, the severity of the sentence was imposed as a deterrent to others in the knowledge that, if considered too severe, it could be mitigated by the Home Secretary. I am indebted to Eileen Barnes for the newspaper reports. Dorothy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Julie, I hope you're now well on the road to recovery. I almost forgot to pass on the most recent development: receipt of this snippet from another of my correspondents:- Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 Name: Ernest F Westall Gender: Male Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1872 Date of Arrival: 24 Apr 1887 Vessel: Sardinian Search Ship Database: View the 'Sardinian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia and Portland, Maine Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Roll: C-4513 Regards Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: "wattlebee@bigpond.com" <wattlebee@telstra.com> To: <westall@rootsweb.com> Cc: "Dorothy Jones" <dee-jay@jones2115.fsnet.co.uk> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 3:33 AM Subject: Re: [WESTALL] Charles Westall Middlesex to Australia > > Hi Dorothy > Thank you for the very 'interesting' information on our > Charles aka Ernest Westall - every piece of information > that you find indicates to me that Charles and Ernest are > indeed one and the same. > > I haven't had time to really digest what you sent me the > other day and today because I am in the middle of moving > house and if that isn't enough I have hurt my back in the > process. I cannot sit and can stand and lie down on my > left side at intervals - this is the first time I've been > able to go online for many days so I am not able to do > anything much for the time being. My family history files > are in a box somewhere!!! > > I do appreciate your help with solving the Charles Westall > mystery - will be in touch ASAP > Cheers > Julie > laidup downunder LOL