Those interested in Lancashire does the following ring a bell with anyone. I believe Booth's father may have been Booth Westall but as can be seen there is no English Census that gives me Booth's parents? As can be seen I do not seen where Booth has any issue? A Booth Westall shows up in the 1850 US Census living in VA and he was born in England ca 1800! Oh well no one said it would be easy! Any assist on this will be appreciated. Bob Westall Descendants of Booth Winkley Westall Generation No. 1 1. BOOTH WINKLEY3 WESTALL (BOOTH2, THOMAS1) was born Bet. Apr - Jun 1844 in Manchester, Lancashire, Eng, and died Bet. Apr - Jun 1906 in Rochdale, Lancashire, Eng.. He married ANNIE TAYLOR Bet. Jan - Mar 1885 in Rochdale, Lancashire, Eng., daughter of TAYLOR and MARY A.. She was born Bet. Oct - Dec 1850 in Rochdale, Lancashire, Eng. Notes for BOOTH WINKLEY WESTALL: Taken from Free BMD Births Jun 1844 Westall Booth Manchester 20 61 Westall Booth Manchester 20 617 ############################### 1851 England Census Name: Booth Winkey Westner Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation: Nephew Gender: Male Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Wardleworth Ecclesiastical parish: St James Town: Rochdale County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 198 John St. Condition as to marriage: Single Registration district: Rochdale Sub registration district: Wardleworth ED, institution, or vessel: 1k Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 198 Robert Healy Head..M..63..Hatter..Lanca, Rochdale Margart Wife...M..32..............Lanca, Rochdale Elizabeth Dau....S..25..???.....Lanca, Rochdale Mary Ann Dau....S..14..???....Lanca, Rochdale Booth Winkey Westner Nephew..S...7.............Lanca, Manchester ############################### 1861 England Census Name: Booth Winkley Westall Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation: Nephew Gender: Male Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Spotland Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 59 Ending Occupation: Cotton Doffe Condition as to marriage: Singl Registration district: Rochdale Sub registration district: Spotland Nearer Side ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Household schedule number: 59 James Mills Head..M..56..Cotton Weaver..Lanca, Spotland Jane Wife..M..63..House Wife.......Lanca, Spotland James Son...S..26..Driller Postman..Lanca, Spotland Booth Son...S..19..Cotton Spinner..Lanca, Spotland Booth Winkley Westall Nephew..S..17..Cotton Doffe.....Lanca, Manchester ############################### 1871 England Census Name: Booth Wintley Westall Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relation: Nephew Gender: Male Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Spotland Nearer Side Ecclesiastical parish: Healey Christchurch Town: Healey County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 61 Ending Occupation: Laborer for Mechanic Condition as to marriage: Single Registration district: Rochdale Sub registration district: Spotland Nearer Side ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Household schedule number: 61 James Mills Head.. M..67..Cotton Weaver...........Lanca, Rochdale Jane Wife...M..72......................................Lanca, Rochdale Booth Wintley Westall Nephew..S..24..Laborer for Mechanic..Lanca, Manchester ############################## 1891 England Census Name: Booth W W Westall Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation: Husband Spouse's Name: Annie Gender: Male Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Castleton Ecclesiastical parish: Rochdale County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 3 Whitewillow Pl Occupation: Laborer Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Rochdale Sub registration district: Castleton Nearer ED, institution, or vessel: Booth W. W. Westall Husb..M..47..Laborer.......Lanca, Manchester Annie..........................Wife...M..40..Bookbinder..Lanca, Rochdale ############################### 1901 England Census Name: Booth W W Westall Age: 57 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation: Son-in-law Spouse's Name: Annie Gender: Male Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Rochdale Ecclesiastical parish: St Chad County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 3 Whitewillow Pl Occupation: Warehouseman, Woolen Mill Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Rochdale Sub registration district: Castleton Nearer ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 19 Mary A. Taylor Head..Wid..79..................................................Lanca, Mancester.. Annie Dau....M.....49..Bookbinder............................Lanca, Rochdale Booth W.W. Westall S-in-Law...M.....57..Warehouseman, Woolen Mill..Lanca, Mancester ################################ Taken from Free BMD Deaths Jun 1906 Westall Booth 62 Rochdale 8e 33 E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) Database version: 5.10390e http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/

Hello, My name is Ursula Westall, from the Venezuelan Westall family. I'm interested in contacting Thomas George Westall, the son of Jack Hampton Westall. Jack Hampton Westall is my great grandfather. ??? Thank you.

Fred, For just under 10 Sterling I got the "East Ilsley in the 1830's (an interactive map and terrier listing)" today in the mail from Sigma Books of England. It has the following: Thomas Westall lived on plot 126 which was on High Street Norh. It was a Cottage and Garden owned by Miss Frogley. John Westall lived on plot 37 which was on Cow Lane Norh. It was a Cottage and Garden owned by Widow Butler. Interestingly Thomas shows as living on Cow Lane in the 1841 English Census not John? Fred there is a John Westall living in Ashbury, Shrivenham, Berkshire with the following household. Could that be our John Westall? John Westall 40 Sarah 40 Thomas 12 Ann 9 John 6 Maria 4 George 1 The following is what I have for Thomas in my Notes section: Does this make sense to you? J Bob ############################### East Ilsley P BRK ENG SU4981 749181 ############################### 1841 England Census Name: Thomas Westall Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801 Gender: Male Where born: Berkshire, England Civil Parish: East Ilsley Hundred: Compton County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street address: Cow Lane Occupation: Agricultural Laborer Registration district: Wantage Sub registration district: Ilsley Thomas Westall 40 Agricultural Laborer..Berks Harriet 40...................................Berks Martha 15...................................Berks Elizabeth 14...................................Berks Charles 10...................................Berks James 5...................................Berks Maria 4...................................Berks Virgin 3...................................Berks Sophia 1...................................Berks ############################### 1851 England Census Name: Thomas Westall Age: 52 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1799 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Harriet Gender: Male Where born: East Ilsley, Berkshire, England Civil Parish: East Ilsley County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street address: 22 Compton Road Occupation: Agricultural Laborer Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Wantage Sub registration district: Wantage ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 22 Thomas Westall Head..M..52..Agricultural Laborer..Berks, East Ilsley Harriet Wife...M..50....................................Berks, East Ilsley Ann Dau...S..23..Agricultural Laborer..Berks, East Ilsley Mary Dau...S..19..Agricultural Laborer..Berks, East Ilsley Eliza Dau...S..17..Agricultural Laborer..Berks, East Ilsley James Son...S..16..Agricultural Laborer..Berks, East Ilsley Maria Dau...S..12...................................Berks, East Ilsley Virgin Dau...S..10...................................Berks, East Ilsley Sophia Dau...S..12..Scholar.....................Berks, East Ilsley ############################### Taken from the 1861 British Census Name: Thomas Westall Age: 67 Estimated birth year: 1794 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: East Ilsley, Berkshire, England Civil parish: East Ilsley County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Source information: RG9/737 Registration district: Wantage Sub-registration district: Ilsley ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Folio: 133 Page: 19 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 95 GSU Number: 542693 Thomas Westall Head..Wd..67..Woodman.........Berks, East Ilsley James Son....S.....25..Woodman.........Berks,East Ilsley Sophia Dau....S.....19..Neeldlewoman..Berks, East Ilsley Isaac Rumdle S-in-Law...M......33..Shepherd.........Berks, East Ilsley Virgin Dau...M......23..Occ Field work.Berks, East Ilsley ################################## Taken from the 1871 British Census Name: Thomas Westall Age: 78 Estimated birth year: abt 1793 Relation: Father-in-law Gender: Male Where born: East Ilsley, Berkshire, England Civil Parish or Township: East Ilsley Town: East Ilsley County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Source information: RG10/1270 Registration district: Wantage Sub-registration district: Ilsley ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Folio: 53 Page: 15 Household schedule number: 87 GSU Number: 827848 George Mathews Head..M..39..M..Carpenter.....Berkshire, East Ilsley Sophia Wife...F..29..M......................Berkshire, East Ilsley George Son...M..14..S......................Berkshire, East Ilsley Edward F Son...M...8..S........................Berkshire, East Ilsley Eliza Dau....F...7..S........................Berkshire, East Ilsley Thomas Son...M...5..S........................Berkshire, East Ilsley Lavinia V Dau....F...4..S........................Berkshire, East Ilsley Richard Son...M...2..S........................Berkshire, East Ilsley William Son....M...1..S.......................Berkshire, East Ilsley Thomas Westall F-in-Law...M..78..Wd..Woodman..Berkshire, East Ilsley ################################## Taken from the 1881 British Census Institution: "Union Workhouse" Census Place: Wantage, Berkshire, England Source: FHL Film 1341313 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1287 Folio 5 Page 3 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Thomas WESTALL W 90 M East Ilsley, Berkshire, England Rel: Pauper Occ: Formerly Hurdle Maker ################################## Taken from the 1881 British Census Name: Thomas Westall Age in 1881: 90 Age months: 0 Estimated birth year: abt 1791 Relationship to head-of-household: Pauper Gender: Male Where born: East Ilsley, Berkshire, England Address: "Union Workhouse" Civil parish: Wantage County/Island: Berkshire Condition as to marriage: Widow Source information: RG11/1287 Registration district: Wantage Sub-registration district: Wantage ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Folio: 5 Page: 3 ################################# Taken from Free BMD Deaths Dec 1884 Westall, Thomas Age 88, Location Wantage, 2c, 193 E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) 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Just a thought, Kitt If you are on broadband the file would get to you OK, and a bit quicker, if you are on dial-up the snail mail would be the best option. Either way, I would be reluctant to post my full postal address for everyone to see. Bob, Nice to hear from you again, I thought you had gone AWOL!! Margaret (descended from Thomas Westall, Reading ; Thomas John Westall, London; Arthur Westall, London;Thomas Brigden Westall, London, my grandfather). Never got further back than Thomas Westall, Reading, never found Thomas snr + Thomas John in 1841 census - always hoping and looking again every so often, but my search has been pretty exhaustive now. Margaret > Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:07:49 -0400 > From: kitt.ravenstar@gmail.com > To: westall@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WESTALL] Westall of East Ilsley, Berkshire > > Hello Bob > > What a kind and generous offer. I am so very, very grateful to you. > > > I would be most happy to pay for the postage, paper etc. > > Thank you from the bottom of my heart. > > Sincerely, Kitt > > 2008/7/9 Bob Westall : > >> Fred, >> >> >> >> Your Joseph Westall born 1801 in East Ilsley, Berkshire and married to >> Hannah Josey on 18 Feb 1821 in Aldworth, Berkshire, England is the father >> of >> Elizabeth Westall the wife of Patrick Allen Ludgate. They married 05 Aug >> 1843 in Northampton, Carleton Co., NB, Canada. Joseph moved his family to >> New Brunswick, Canada sometime between 1831 and 1837 as Hannah Westall was >> born in Berkshire in 1831 and Sophia Westall was born in York Co., NB, >> Canada in 1837. >> >> >> >> The Typed Descendants Outline of Joseph Westall b 1801 in East Ilsley, >> Berkshire is just short of 9 pages. If you would like send me your address >> and I will print it out and mail it to you. The Genealogy Report is some >> 119 pages long and gives quite a bit of detail of the Westall descendants >> in >> Canada and the USA. If you like I can try to email it to you. J >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Bob Westall >> >> >> >> >> >> E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) >> Database version: 5.10220e >> http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Become the Peace that you want to see in the World > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Play and win great prizes with Live Search and Kung Fu Panda http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/101719966/direct/01/

Thanks Margaret (my mother's name as well) I am on broadband so perhaps a file would be best. Sincerely, Kitt 2008/7/10 Margaret Wilkinson <margaretjanew@hotmail.com>: > > Just a thought, Kitt > > If you are on broadband the file would get to you OK, and a bit quicker, if > you are on dial-up the snail mail would be the best option. > > Either way, I would be reluctant to post my full postal address for > everyone to see. > > Bob, Nice to hear from you again, I thought you had gone AWOL!! > > > Margaret (descended from Thomas Westall, Reading ; Thomas John Westall, > London; Arthur Westall, London;Thomas Brigden Westall, London, my > grandfather). > > Never got further back than Thomas Westall, Reading, never found Thomas snr > + Thomas John in 1841 census - always hoping and looking again every so > often, but my search has been pretty exhaustive now. > > Margaret > > > > Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:07:49 -0400 > > From: kitt.ravenstar@gmail.com > > To: westall@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [WESTALL] Westall of East Ilsley, Berkshire > > > > Hello Bob > > > > What a kind and generous offer. I am so very, very grateful to you. > > > > > > I would be most happy to pay for the postage, paper etc. > > > > Thank you from the bottom of my heart. > > > > Sincerely, Kitt > > > > 2008/7/9 Bob Westall : > > > >> Fred, > >> > >> > >> > >> Your Joseph Westall born 1801 in East Ilsley, Berkshire and married to > >> Hannah Josey on 18 Feb 1821 in Aldworth, Berkshire, England is the > father > >> of > >> Elizabeth Westall the wife of Patrick Allen Ludgate. They married 05 Aug > >> 1843 in Northampton, Carleton Co., NB, Canada. Joseph moved his family > to > >> New Brunswick, Canada sometime between 1831 and 1837 as Hannah Westall > was > >> born in Berkshire in 1831 and Sophia Westall was born in York Co., NB, > >> Canada in 1837. > >> > >> > >> > >> The Typed Descendants Outline of Joseph Westall b 1801 in East Ilsley, > >> Berkshire is just short of 9 pages. If you would like send me your > address > >> and I will print it out and mail it to you. The Genealogy Report is some > >> 119 pages long and gives quite a bit of detail of the Westall > descendants > >> in > >> Canada and the USA. If you like I can try to email it to you. J > >> > >> > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> > >> > >> Bob Westall > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) > >> Database version: 5.10220e > >> http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/ > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Become the Peace that you want to see in the World > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Play and win great prizes with Live Search and Kung Fu Panda > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/101719966/direct/01/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Become the Peace that you want to see in the World

Hello Bob What a kind and generous offer. I am so very, very grateful to you. My address is: KITT P O BOX 441 CHARLOTTE VERMONT 05445 I would be most happy to pay for the postage, paper etc. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Sincerely, Kitt 2008/7/9 Bob Westall <bobatbmw@cox.net>: > Fred, > > > > Your Joseph Westall born 1801 in East Ilsley, Berkshire and married to > Hannah Josey on 18 Feb 1821 in Aldworth, Berkshire, England is the father > of > Elizabeth Westall the wife of Patrick Allen Ludgate. They married 05 Aug > 1843 in Northampton, Carleton Co., NB, Canada. Joseph moved his family to > New Brunswick, Canada sometime between 1831 and 1837 as Hannah Westall was > born in Berkshire in 1831 and Sophia Westall was born in York Co., NB, > Canada in 1837. > > > > The Typed Descendants Outline of Joseph Westall b 1801 in East Ilsley, > Berkshire is just short of 9 pages. If you would like send me your address > and I will print it out and mail it to you. The Genealogy Report is some > 119 pages long and gives quite a bit of detail of the Westall descendants > in > Canada and the USA. If you like I can try to email it to you. J > > > > Regards > > > > Bob Westall > > > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) > Database version: 5.10220e > http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Become the Peace that you want to see in the World

Fred, Your Joseph Westall born 1801 in East Ilsley, Berkshire and married to Hannah Josey on 18 Feb 1821 in Aldworth, Berkshire, England is the father of Elizabeth Westall the wife of Patrick Allen Ludgate. They married 05 Aug 1843 in Northampton, Carleton Co., NB, Canada. Joseph moved his family to New Brunswick, Canada sometime between 1831 and 1837 as Hannah Westall was born in Berkshire in 1831 and Sophia Westall was born in York Co., NB, Canada in 1837. The Typed Descendants Outline of Joseph Westall b 1801 in East Ilsley, Berkshire is just short of 9 pages. If you would like send me your address and I will print it out and mail it to you. The Genealogy Report is some 119 pages long and gives quite a bit of detail of the Westall descendants in Canada and the USA. If you like I can try to email it to you. J Regards Bob Westall E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) Database version: 5.10220e http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/

Hello I found some old messages on the Westall mailing list titled Westall in Australia and would like to be included on the list please. My Great grandma Alma Constance KERSHAW married Charles WESTALL (2nd marriage) in 1918 and I am trying to find out more about the marriage and their children that they had. I notice there was an email from a Daniel Westall who appears to be related through this marriage. Do you still have contact with him at all? Thank you for any help you can give me in finding the Westall's of Australia Kind regards Julie The Original Six ~ Rheingau to Camden Park ~ 1838-2008 Celebrating 170 years since 6 German Vinedressers with their families arrived on the barque 'Kinnear' 1838-2008 Die 6 (sechs) Gründerväter-vom Rheingau nach Camden Park- (1838-2008). Wir feiern den 170. Jahrestag der Ankunft von sechs deutschen Winzerfamilien auf der Kinnear. Casper Flick, Friedrich Seckold, Georg Gerhard, Johann Justus, Johann Stein, Johann Wenz "They gave all and came that we might enjoy what they had only dreamt about." www.twomeycontracting.com/reunion

Hi Margaret, Yes this is my earliest Westall ancestor. He was a shoemaker living in Monmouth street at this time. I still cannot trace his birth or any previous relations, but I keep hunting! Many thanks for the info. Mick W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Wilkinson" <margaretjanew@hotmail.com> To: <westall@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:08 PM Subject: [WESTALL] John WESTALL, Shoemaker, Proceedings of the Old Bailey,1674-1913 Possibly John Westall c 1813 - 1864, Boot and shoe-maker, Address in census - 67, Dudley Street/Monmouth Street, Seven Dials district, one of Mick Westall's ancestors. >From The Proceedings of the Old Bailey, 1674-1913 http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/ THOMAS CUNNINGHAM, Theft, simple larceny, 31st January 1842. 775. THOMAS CUNNINGHAM was indicted for stealing, on the 1st of February, 1 boot, value 9d. the goods of John Westall. JOHN WESTALL - I am a shoemaker, and live in Monmouth-street. The boot produced belongs to me—I missed three of them from my door last Tuesday morning. Prisoner - It was found on a window-ledge; he came over, caught hold of me, and said I took it. Witness - I missed it at nine o'clock in the morning—I hung it there at half-past eight o'clock—the fellow-one was taken as well. WILLIAM CHARLTON - I am a tailor, and live in Great White Lion-street, Seven-dials. On the 1st of February, about nine o'clock, I was standing at my shop-door, and saw the prisoner passing Westall's shop-door—he took a boot down with his left-hand—it hung outside—he walked six or seven yards with it, and then put it down outside a parlour-window in White Lion-street—I do not know whether he saw me—he came on about six yards, and I seized him—I said, "Where is that boot, what did you take it for?"—he said, "What boot, I see no boot?"—I said, "The boot you rut down there?"—I took him back to the shop. Prisoner - I am as innocent as any body; I no more touched it than I am touching it now; it was a boy who was in my sight. Witness. There were about a dozen more boys about, all in a gang—I am certain it was the prisoner took it. WILLIAM BARRETT (police-constable F 87.) - I took the prisoner into custody—I know nothing of him. GUILTY . Aged 14.— Confined Ten Days. _________________________________________________________________ Great deals on almost anything at eBay.co.uk. Search, bid, find and win on eBay today! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000004ukm/direct/01/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Possibly John Westall c 1813 - 1864, Boot and shoe-maker, Address in census - 67, Dudley Street/Monmouth Street, Seven Dials district, one of Mick Westall's ancestors. >From The Proceedings of the Old Bailey, 1674-1913 http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/ THOMAS CUNNINGHAM, Theft, simple larceny, 31st January 1842. 775. THOMAS CUNNINGHAM was indicted for stealing, on the 1st of February, 1 boot, value 9d. the goods of John Westall. JOHN WESTALL - I am a shoemaker, and live in Monmouth-street. The boot produced belongs to me—I missed three of them from my door last Tuesday morning. Prisoner - It was found on a window-ledge; he came over, caught hold of me, and said I took it. Witness - I missed it at nine o'clock in the morning—I hung it there at half-past eight o'clock—the fellow-one was taken as well. WILLIAM CHARLTON - I am a tailor, and live in Great White Lion-street, Seven-dials. On the 1st of February, about nine o'clock, I was standing at my shop-door, and saw the prisoner passing Westall's shop-door—he took a boot down with his left-hand—it hung outside—he walked six or seven yards with it, and then put it down outside a parlour-window in White Lion-street—I do not know whether he saw me—he came on about six yards, and I seized him—I said, "Where is that boot, what did you take it for?"—he said, "What boot, I see no boot?"—I said, "The boot you rut down there?"—I took him back to the shop. Prisoner - I am as innocent as any body; I no more touched it than I am touching it now; it was a boy who was in my sight. Witness. There were about a dozen more boys about, all in a gang—I am certain it was the prisoner took it. WILLIAM BARRETT (police-constable F 87.) - I took the prisoner into custody—I know nothing of him. GUILTY . Aged 14.— Confined Ten Days. _________________________________________________________________ Great deals on almost anything at eBay.co.uk. Search, bid, find and win on eBay today! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000004ukm/direct/01/

Thomas WESTALL was my 3G grandfather, and I have looked for him with no luck at all in 1841 census. Should have son Thomas (John) WESTALL born 1833, possibly wife Maria, +/- any siblings of Thomas John. Thomas WESTALL snr and jnr were both shoemakers. 'The Proceedings of the Old Bailey, 1674-1913' have increased their online records recently, and I think I may have tracked Thomas snr down in 1846. http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=t18470705-name-587&div=t18470705-1661&terms=shoemaker#highlight At the trial of one MARY ANN GRANTON alias Maids for murder, ---THOMAS WESTALL. I am a shoemaker - I lodge on the third floor of the house (No. 4, Tower-street, Seven-dials, in the parish of St. Giles-in-the-fields.) —I heard Edward James Maids come home that evening—I heard a child cry after he came home, and after I heard the child cry I heard the prisoner go up stairs—I heard her say, "You shall not ill-treat my children"—a scuffle then took place between him and the prisoner—I am sure of that—the last words I heard the prisoner say were, "Take that, you b—r"—I then heard him fall down. Does anyone know where Tower Street appears in 1841 census? Margaret _________________________________________________________________ Bag extra points with the Walkers Brit Trip Game http://www.walkersbrittrips.co.uk/game

http://www.smallandspecial.org/search Browsing through Great Ormond Street Hospital records and came across this one. It caught my eye because father's occupation implied as shoemaker, and my 2G and 3G WESTALL grandfathers were both London boot/shoemakers. Mary Ann Westall, age 6yrs, address 13 Woodfield Place, Harrow Road, (shoemaker), admitted Apr 1872 for diseased hip, developed meningitis and died Aug 1872. In 1871 the family are living at the same address - John Westall, Head, Mar, M, 35, Bootmaker, Berks, Harringdon Hannah Westall, Wife, Mar, 40, Essex, Epping William Westall, Son, M, 13, Scholar, Mddx, Paddington Charles Westall, Son, M, 11, Mddx, Paddington Hannah Westall, Daur, F, 7, Mddx,Paddington Mary A Westall, Daur, F, 4, Mddx, Paddington Address 13 Woodfield Place, Paddington, Middlesex Class: RG10; Piece: 2; Folio: 51; Page: 16 If you register and log in you can read the full casenotes for Mary Ann. Does anyone recognise this family? Margaret _________________________________________________________________ 100’s of prizes to be won at BigSnapSearch.com http://www.bigsnapsearch.com

Further references to Llwynpia - How to find the Llwynypia Hospital Included within this section you will find a map of the hospital together with an indication of the location of the wards. There is also a guide of the road links to the hospital. Llwynypia Hospital is situated on the crossroads of Partridge Road (A 4058) and Princess Louise Road (the end of the A4119 Tonyrefail bypass). 150 Tyntyla Road, Llwynypia, Tonypandy, Rhondda, Mid Glamorgan CF40 2SX It is clearly marked in my map book, close to Tonypandy and Trealaw Margaret ----Original Message Follows---- From: "bobatbmw" <bobatbmw@cox.net> Reply-To: westall@rootsweb.com To: <westall@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [WESTALL] [SPAM] Re: Llwynypia, South Wales Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 11:30:41 -0400 Gill, Thank you for your helpful reply! I have pulled up Rhondda Cynon Taff, Wales and found a map that I can put in miles from Tonypandy, Wales. Rhondda is 3 miles from Tonypandy but Llwynypia still does not show. It must be a very small village or the name has been changed? I just found the following. It actually shows that Llwynypia is located between Rhondda and Tonypandy. It appears that there is literally no open country between the three places with a main road going from Rhondda to Tonpandy which goes right by Llwynypia. "Llwynypia Llwynypia is a settlement situated in Wales in the United Kingdom. It is located in the Rhondda Cynon Taff region. Llwynypia is 16 miles from the Welsh capital Cardiff." Thanks again this is really great to nail it down like this! Bob Westall -----Original Message----- From: westall-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:westall-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gillian Ford Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 9:50 PM To: westall@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WESTALL] Llwynypia, South Wales It's in the Rhondda Valley, near Tonypandy and best known for the 1910 colliery riots. Got this off google. Put in Tonypandy riots and you will find a lot, with photos. Like this one, address below. http://webapps.rhondda-cynon-taf.gov.uk/heritagetrail/rhondda/tonypandy/tony pandy.htm Other places it is near: Llwynypia is a village in Rhondda Cynon Taff, Wales. Nearby places are Blaen Clydach, Blaenllechau, Clydach Vale, Cymmer, Edmondstown, Ferndale, Gelli, ... Llwynypia is a village in Rhondda Cynon Taff, Wales. ... Pontygwaith, Porth, Rhiw-garn, Ton Pentre, Tonypandy, Trealaw, Trebanog, Treorchy, Tylorstown, ... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Could you be the guest MSN Movies presenter? Click Here to Audition http://www.lightscameraaudition.co.uk

Gill, Thank you for your helpful reply! I have pulled up Rhondda Cynon Taff, Wales and found a map that I can put in miles from Tonypandy, Wales. Rhondda is 3 miles from Tonypandy but Llwynypia still does not show. It must be a very small village or the name has been changed? I just found the following. It actually shows that Llwynypia is located between Rhondda and Tonypandy. It appears that there is literally no open country between the three places with a main road going from Rhondda to Tonpandy which goes right by Llwynypia. "Llwynypia Llwynypia is a settlement situated in Wales in the United Kingdom. It is located in the Rhondda Cynon Taff region. Llwynypia is 16 miles from the Welsh capital Cardiff." Thanks again this is really great to nail it down like this! Bob Westall -----Original Message----- From: westall-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:westall-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gillian Ford Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 9:50 PM To: westall@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WESTALL] Llwynypia, South Wales It's in the Rhondda Valley, near Tonypandy and best known for the 1910 colliery riots. Got this off google. Put in Tonypandy riots and you will find a lot, with photos. Like this one, address below. http://webapps.rhondda-cynon-taf.gov.uk/heritagetrail/rhondda/tonypandy/tony pandy.htm Other places it is near: Llwynypia is a village in Rhondda Cynon Taff, Wales. Nearby places are Blaen Clydach, Blaenllechau, Clydach Vale, Cymmer, Edmondstown, Ferndale, Gelli, ... Llwynypia is a village in Rhondda Cynon Taff, Wales. ... Pontygwaith, Porth, Rhiw-garn, Ton Pentre, Tonypandy, Trealaw, Trebanog, Treorchy, Tylorstown, ...

Bob: Chester WESTALL and Omar WESTALL are part of my family line; Chester is my grandfather. The census spelling is incorrect as it should have been WESTELL. The family had changed their name from WAISTELL to WESTELL around 1900. My WAISTELLs had come from Westmorland, Engalnd in 1835 and had settled first in the Weston area and later in Middlesex County in Ontario. Other spellings that I have seen in the variouscensus include WESTLE as well as the above. If any of this strikes a cord with the list members, I would be pleased to hear from them and share what information that I have. Jim Westell Sharon, Ontario ----- Original Message ----- From: <bobatbmw@cox.net> To: <WESTALL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 10:49 AM Subject: [WESTALL] Westalls in 14911 Canadian Census > The following was found in the 1911 Canadian Census. Some are US born, > some Canadian and a few English born! Are any of the above familiar? > Another whole new area to digest! > > Bob Westall > > > Name Parent or spouse names Home in 1911 > (Province, District, Sub-District) Birth Year Birthplace Relation > > Ressel Westall Eba British Columbia, Kootenay, Fernie 1883 USA Head > Eba Westall Ressel British Columbia, Kootenay, Fernie 1889 USA Wife > May Westall Ressel, Eba British Columbia, Kootenay, Fernie 1907 USA > Daughter > Joseph Westall Ressel,Eba British Columbia, Kootenay, Fernie 1909 USA > Son > > > Walter Westall Mabel British Columbia, Vancouver, South Vancouver 1883 > England Head > Mabel Westall Walter British Columbia, Vancouver, South Vancouver 1880 > Ontario Wife > > Geo Westall Violet Saskatchewan, Moosejaw 1870 Ontario Head > Violet Westall Geo Saskatchewan, Moosejaw 1883 Ontario Wife > Wm A Westall Geo, Violet Saskatchewan, Moosejaw 1893 Ontario Son > Beyrl Westall Geo, Violet Saskatchewan, Moosejaw 1895 USA Daughter > Bernice Westall Geo, Violet Saskatchewan, Moosejaw 1895 USA Daughter > > Chester Westall Vernon Manitoba, Winnipeg City, Winnipeg 1885 Ontario > Head > > Thersa Westall New Brunswick, York, Canterbury 1852 New Brunswick > Servant > > Allison Westall Thomas, Nellia New Brunswick, Carleton, Woodstock 1902 > Nova Scotia Son > Pauline Westall Thomas, Nellia New Brunswick, Carleton, Woodstock 1904 > New > Brunswick Daughter > > Gilford Westall Mable Nova Scotia, Yarmouth, Tusket Lake 1861 New > Brunswick Head > Mable Westall Gilford Nova Scotia, Yarmouth, Tusket Lake 1873 Nova Scotia > Wife > > Omar Westall Susan Ontario, Bruce North, Kincardine 1867 Ontario Head > Susan Westall Omar Ontario, Bruce North, Kincardine 1861 Ontario Wife > Oser Westall Omar,Susan Ontario, Bruce North, Kincardine 1891 Ontario > Son > > Lorena Westall Omar,Susan Ontario, Bruce North, Kincardine 1893 Ontario > Daughter > May Westall Omar,Susan Ontario, Bruce North, Kincardine 1895 Ontario > Daughter > Earl Westall Omar,Susan Ontario, Bruce North, Kincardine 1901 Ontario > Son > > Lula Westall Omar,Susan Ontario, Bruce North, Kincardine 1903 Ontario > Daughter > > William Westall Susan Ontario, Durham, Millbrook, part 1868 England Head > > usan Westall William Ontario, Durham, Millbrook, part 1871 Ontario Wife > Stanley W Westall William,Susan Ontario, Durham, Millbrook, part 1893 > Ontario Son > Helen F Westall William, Susan Ontario, Durham, Millbrook, part 1896 > Ontario Daughter > AdaF Westall William,Susan Ontario, Durham, Millbrook, part 1899 Ontario > Daughter > awleth Westall William, Susan Ontario, Durham, Millbrook, part 1901 > Ontario Daughter > > E Westall Caroline Ontario, Essex North, Walkerville 1843 England Head > Caroline Westall E Ontario, Essex North, Walkerville 1863 Ontario Wife > > Henry Westall Annie Ontario, London City 1884 England Head > Annie Westall Henry Ontario, London City 1889 Ontario Wife > Catherine Westall George, > > Mary Ontario, Simcoe South, Gwillimbury West 1891 England Daughter > > Edward Westall Edith Ontario, Toronto East, Ward 2 1884 England Head > Edith Westall Edward Ontario, Toronto East, Ward 2 1881 England Wife > John Westall Edward,Edith Ontario, Toronto East, Ward 2 1910 England Son > > William Westall Edward,Edith Ontario, Toronto East, Ward 2 1910 Ontario > Son > Edna Westall Edward, Edith Ontario, Toronto East, Ward 2 1911 Ontario > Daughter > > Bassile Westall British Columbia, Vancouver, Vancouver City 1886 Italy > Lodger > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft® Windows® and Linux web and application > hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It's in the Rhondda Valley, near Tonypandy and best known for the 1910 colliery riots. Got this off google. Put in Tonypandy riots and you will find a lot, with photos. Like this one, address below. http://webapps.rhondda-cynon-taf.gov.uk/heritagetrail/rhondda/tonypandy/tony pandy.htm Other places it is near: Llwynypia is a village in Rhondda Cynon Taff, Wales. Nearby places are Blaen Clydach, Blaenllechau, Clydach Vale, Cymmer, Edmondstown, Ferndale, Gelli, ... Llwynypia is a village in Rhondda Cynon Taff, Wales. ... Pontygwaith, Porth, Rhiw-garn, Ton Pentre, Tonypandy, Trealaw, Trebanog, Treorchy, Tylorstown, ... - - - - - - - Information about the riots: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/LabourStrife.html Look the one above up on the Internet, but I have put others full text below. http://libcom.org/history/1910-cambrian-combine-miners-strike-and-tonypandy- riot 1910: Cambrian Combine miners strike and Tonypandy Riot A short history of a strike by miners in South Wales in 1910, which led to a series of confrontations between workers and police, culminating in what became popularly known as the Tonypandy Riot. The strike marked one of the few occasions in British history that troops have been deployed against striking workers. The strike began on August 1, 1910, when miners employed by the Naval Colliery Company at the Ely Pit in the town of Penygraig arrived at work to find lockout notices attached to the entrances of the mine. The company and pit made up part of the Cambrian Combine, a business network founded in 1906 of all of the mining companies in South Wales formed to regulate prices and wages while still allowing each individual company to operate independently. The months that followed became one of the bitterest disputes the miners of South Wales were ever to be engaged in, and one that would affect every miner who worked in a Cambrian Combine pit. The build up to the strike had begun the year previously, when the management of the Ely Pit had taken the decision to open up a new seam and have it mined by 80 men for a trial period in order to determine its output. The miners of the pit were employed on the basis of piecework, pay being dependent on the amount of coal extracted by each individual worker. If a miner failed to reach a certain amount, the company would give an allowance to the miner in question to make up his pay to the minimum that was required in order to live. Given the nature of this pay system, the test period of the new seam to determine it's output and to allow the company to set a wage per ton of coal extracted would also determine the amount the company was likely to have to pay miners who would work on the seam in future. Some months into the test period of the new seam, the company began to accuse the men working on it of deliberately working slowly in order to raise the amount that would be paid per ton of coal once the seam was in production and the miners were working at their "normal pace". The miners argued that this was not the case, telling the company that the seam was particularly difficult to work with many "abnormal places". When the test period was over, a wage was set for the workers on the new seam that was far lower than what could be considered a living wage, and they demanded an increase. The company had recently also been cutting the allowance given to miners, making the money made from piecework alone practically impossible to live on. Angered by the resistance they were meeting from the miners over the new wages, the owners posted lockout notices on August 1. The lockout applied not just to the 80 miners working on the new seam, but all 800 miners employed at the pit. Soon after they had been met by the lockout notices, the miners called the strike, and were soon joined by miners from two other pits owned by the Naval Colliery Company as well as others from several other collieries in South Wales who voted to strike several days later. A conference of the South Wales Miners Federation (SWMF) was held on September 16. 248 delegates attended, representing the 147,000 miners of the Miners' Federation of Great Britain and the decision to support the strikers was made. Several token pay increases still far below what could be considered a minimum living wage were offered by the mine owners and were all rejected by the workers, who were soon to be joined on strike by 30,000 other miners on November 1, the day the strike called by the SWMF officially began. Picketing began at all of the collieries that made up the Cambrian Combine in the area and on November 7, all pits affected by the strike were being picketed by their workers. A crowd of thousands marched though the Rhondda valley with miners filling the streets, gathering at pitheads and in many cases, entering their collieries to extinguish boiler fires and stop ventilation fans, making the mine unworkable to any scabs who had stayed in. Production was halted by workers in all pits except one in the town of Llwynypia, which had been transformed into a near fortress by its manager, who had at his disposal a large amount of police who had been drafted in by the Chief Constable of Glamorgan as soon as the strike had begun. Production at the colliery at Llwynypia was being kept running by about 60 scabs who had kept the machinery in the pit running with the aid of the 100 policemen from Swansea, Bristol and Cardiff preventing entry by the strikers. The colliery was important to both the strikers and the mine owners, being that it housed the electric generator and pumping station that kept that mines free of water, thus keeping the colliery operational. The owners were desperate to keep it out of the hands of the strikers, being dependent on the contingent of policemen guarding the power station building at the site to be able to maintain a minimal level of production. By 10.30pm on the evening of November 7, thousands of strikers had encircled the pit at Llwynypia, determined to gain entry and shut the colliery down. Unable to get inside, they began to throw stones at the policemen guarding the power station and heavy fighting soon ensued between the two groups, with some miners breaking off sections of wooden fencing to use as weapons. Some hours later, and after being subjected to repeated baton charges by the police, the strikers were pushed away from the colliery and into the square at nearby Tonypandy where they were further dispersed by waiting police. Sometime during the fighting in the square, the police authorities, worried about losing control of the situation telegraphed Tidworth barracks for army reinforcements, which were promised to arrive the next morning. However, the unapproved reinforcements had been stopped by order of the then home secretary, Winston Churchill, before they had even crossed into Wales. When contacted by an angry police captain, Churchill, fearful of political criticism he would come under if he deployed troops against the miners, maintained that they should only be used as a last resort, but said that he would keep them on standby nonetheless. Instead he sent several hundred policemen from London, including about 70 mounted police. The strikers returned to the pit at Llwynypia on November 8, and again heavy fighting between police and miners began. Some two hours into the fighting, mounted police succeeded in dispersing the miners into two groups, one of which headed for the middle of Llwynypia, the other heading again for Tonypandy. Fighting intensified in Tonypandy as the mounted police failed to disperse miners in the town, who began to smash shop windows. Homes in Tonypandy were left untouched by the angry miners, and after several hours of running battles with the police, Churchill telegrammed General MacReady, commander of the troops on standby with the message, "As the situation appears to have become more serious you should if the Chief Constable or Local Authority desire it move all the cavalry into the district without delay". Several hundred extra police from London were also promised, but by the time they arrived the next day the fighting had ended with about 500 miners injured as well as about 80 policemen. Samuel Rhys, a miner who sustained head injuries from a policeman's baton later died of his injuries. This series of events over the 7th and 8th of November in Tonypandy made up what became popularly known as the "Tonypandy Riot". Thirteen miners were arrested and prosecuted for their part in the unrest and the authorities, fearing more trouble, transformed Tonypandy and the surrounding area into a near military camp. The trial lasted for several days and on each day 10,000 men marched through the valley and held mass meetings outside the town in support of their friends in jail, despite the streets being filled with soldiers and policemen. Eventually, several of the miners standing trial were sentenced to prison terms ranging from two to six weeks, while the others were fined and released. Sporadic fighting continued for several more weeks and on November 22 a group of picketing miners were forced by soldiers with bayonets drawn onto a hillside near Penygraig, where they fought alongside the women of the community for several hours with troops and police. A local newspaper running a story on the event commented on the actions of the women: "Women joined with the men in the unequal combat, and displayed a total disregard of personal danger which was as admirable as it was foolhardy. But these Amazons of the coalfield resorted to other and more effective methods. >From the bedroom windows came showers of boiling water, which fell unerringly on the heads of police, while in one case a piece of bedroom ware found its billet on the skull of a Metropolitan policeman." Major disturbances were also reported at the town of Blaenclydach in April 1911, where heavy fighting took over the centre of the town with shops being looted as they had been in Tonypandy. The strike however, ended several months later with the miners, feeling the strain of being without pay for so long, being forced to accept a small pay increase. They returned to the pits in early September, exactly a year after the strike had begun. http://www.south-wales.police.uk/fe/master.asp?n1=8&n2=253&n3=484&n4=490 The clash between police and strikers for the second time at Llwynypia came about when thousands of strikers sought to destroy the powerhouse at the Glamorgan Colliery. The attack was sustained for more than 2 hours. Strikers were heard to shout, "It's our last chance, as the soldiers will be arriving tomorrow." The Colliery was defended by less than 120 constables (including 18 mounted men) under the direct command of the Chief Constable. For two hours the comparatively small force of police defended the Colliery premises, repulsing attack after attack, but by 7pm the position became grave indeed, for the police, who had had little or no food or sleep since their arrival early the previous day were reaching a point of exhaustion, and no reinforcement or relief was at hand. It was decided that a supreme effort would have to be made to disperse the mob by turning from defence to the offensive, though there was considerable doubt whether the small and tired force of 80 or 90 men would be strong enough to do so. The plan was for the whole force to drive a passage through the centre of the milling crowd so as to split it in two, and then for one section, composed of 40 Cardiff police to drive one flank of rioters in the direction of Llwynypia while the other section (Bristol, Swansea and Glamorgan men) tried to achieve the same effect in the direction of Tonypandy. In 1911 a writer described the "battle" as one "of which the memory is still a nightmare. More bones were broken and more bloodshed during this less than one hour's fighting than in any other half a dozen conflicts during the whole of the 1910-1911 strike movement. The end was a complete rout of the mob, the police doubling back to the colliery when the rioters had been driven more than a quarter of a mile in the opposite direction, i.e. towards Llwynypia to the North and Tonypandy to the South." He described the returning policemen as "limping, bleeding from head, face and hands, with the front of their greatcoats in many cases saturated with blood. Scores of batons were broken, and when they were gone the police used pick handles and other weapons captured from the rioters." As soon as this encounter had ended the Stipendiary Magistrate sent off the following telegram to the Home Secretary. "Police cannot cope with rioters. Troops at Cardiff absolutely necessary. Will you order them forthwith? Am ready to accompany them." The magistrate did not know that at the moment the telegram was being written the rioters were smashing shop windows and looting at Tonypandy. Only one constable escaped injury in the riot. Over 40% of the foot constables were seriously hurt, and 16 of the 18 mounted men had to receive medical attention. There is no authentic record as to the toll of injury to the rioters, but estimates suggest that at least 500 rioters suffered injury as the "scene on the road between the Glamorgan Colliery and Tonypandy resembled a battlefield." One man, a miner from Tonypandy, died from his injuries, having received three scalp wounds and two fractures to the skull. At the inquest the verdict recorded was that the evidence was not sufficiently clear as to how the injuries were caused. These disorders forced the hand of the Government, and within an hour Mr Winston Churchill telegraphed the Chief Constable that he had authorised General Macready to move all the cavalry available into the disturbed district without delay. The first section of the 18th Hussars reached Pontypridd at 10.30pm that night, the 8th November 1910, and the second squadron were directed to travel to Pontypridd the following morning. The Metropolitan Police aid of 100 mounted and 200 foot constables reached Pontypridd while the "sacking of Tonypandy was taking place, too late to be of any assistance." In conclusion then, far from initiating the sending of troops to the Rhondda, Churchill did all he could to avoid this being done, and gave way only when the strikers made it abundantly clear by the attacks on the colliery at Llwynypia and their lawlessness at Tonypandy, that the police, even if reinforced, could not guarantee the protection of life and property which it is the duty of the state to maintain.

Here is a really good one for everyone. I am trying to find where Llwynypia, South Wales is. Another way to ask is what county might it be in or what city might it be near? I am looking for a Joseph Williams born ca. 1876 in Llwynypia, South Wales or at least that is where a ship manifest shows. As always any help would be greatly appreciated. Bob Westall

Hi Wm Albert W was from Bristol & lived in Liverpool .He married twice Once to his cousin Sarah PERROTT (and various spellings)& the second time to Edith GIBBS from Pembroke. Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Camfield" <camfield@olympus.net> To: <westall@rootsweb.com>; <bobatbmw@cox.net> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [WESTALL] Buried in New York Sorry, nothing that will help. However, I was interested in seeing the name Albert, which was the name of my father-in-law, Albert J. Westall (1901-1962). He also had an uncle named Albert (1878-1965). Not the most common given name, and I don't know just how it happened to crop up in this family line. I can take this ancestral line back two more generations to a Thomas Westall who died of cholera in Texas in 1833, but find no other references to the name Albert. William is pretty common, of course. That was the first name of my father-in-law's great-grandfather back in North Carolina. Thomas's ancestral records appear to have disappeared in Virginia along about the American Revolution. Always ready to clutch at any straws that might appear, however. Regards, Tom Camfield > From: "Christine Charles" <chris1@bigpond.net.au> > Reply-To: westall@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 07:04:45 +1000 > To: <bobatbmw@cox.net>, <westall@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [WESTALL] Buried in New York > > HI > > My William Albert WESTELL died at sea & was buried in New York about 1907. > > I have tried & tried to find out where or details to no avail. Any ideas > anyone > > Christine > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <bobatbmw@cox.net> > To: <WESTALL@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 12:49 AM > Subject: [WESTALL] Westalls in 14911 Canadian Census > > > The following was found in the 1911 Canadian Census. Some are US born, > some Canadian and a few English born! Are any of the above familiar? > Another whole new area to digest! > > Bob Westall > > > Name Parent or spouse names Home in 1911 > (Province, District, Sub-District) Birth Year Birthplace Relation > > Ressel Westall Eba British Columbia, Kootenay, Fernie 1883 USA Head > Eba Westall Ressel British Columbia, Kootenay, Fernie 1889 USA Wife > May Westall Ressel, Eba British Columbia, Kootenay, Fernie 1907 USA > Daughter > Joseph Westall Ressel,Eba British Columbia, Kootenay, Fernie 1909 USA > Son > > > Walter Westall Mabel British Columbia, Vancouver, South Vancouver 1883 > England Head > Mabel Westall Walter British Columbia, Vancouver, South Vancouver 1880 > Ontario Wife > > Geo Westall Violet Saskatchewan, Moosejaw 1870 Ontario Head > Violet Westall Geo Saskatchewan, Moosejaw 1883 Ontario Wife > Wm A Westall Geo, Violet Saskatchewan, Moosejaw 1893 Ontario Son > Beyrl Westall Geo, Violet Saskatchewan, Moosejaw 1895 USA Daughter > Bernice Westall Geo, Violet Saskatchewan, Moosejaw 1895 USA Daughter > > Chester Westall Vernon Manitoba, Winnipeg City, Winnipeg 1885 Ontario > Head > > Thersa Westall New Brunswick, York, Canterbury 1852 New Brunswick > Servant > > Allison Westall Thomas, Nellia New Brunswick, Carleton, Woodstock 1902 > Nova Scotia Son > Pauline Westall Thomas, Nellia New Brunswick, Carleton, Woodstock 1904 > New > Brunswick Daughter > > Gilford Westall Mable Nova Scotia, Yarmouth, Tusket Lake 1861 New > Brunswick Head > Mable Westall Gilford Nova Scotia, Yarmouth, Tusket Lake 1873 Nova Scotia > Wife > > Omar Westall Susan Ontario, Bruce North, Kincardine 1867 Ontario Head > Susan Westall Omar Ontario, Bruce North, Kincardine 1861 Ontario Wife > Oser Westall Omar,Susan Ontario, Bruce North, Kincardine 1891 Ontario > Son > > Lorena Westall Omar,Susan Ontario, Bruce North, Kincardine 1893 Ontario > Daughter > May Westall Omar,Susan Ontario, Bruce North, Kincardine 1895 Ontario > Daughter > Earl Westall Omar,Susan Ontario, Bruce North, Kincardine 1901 Ontario > Son > > Lula Westall Omar,Susan Ontario, Bruce North, Kincardine 1903 Ontario > Daughter > > William Westall Susan Ontario, Durham, Millbrook, part 1868 England Head > > usan Westall William Ontario, Durham, Millbrook, part 1871 Ontario Wife > Stanley W Westall William,Susan Ontario, Durham, Millbrook, part 1893 > Ontario Son > Helen F Westall William, Susan Ontario, Durham, Millbrook, part 1896 > Ontario Daughter > AdaF Westall William,Susan Ontario, Durham, Millbrook, part 1899 Ontario > Daughter > awleth Westall William, Susan Ontario, Durham, Millbrook, part 1901 > Ontario Daughter > > E Westall Caroline Ontario, Essex North, Walkerville 1843 England Head > Caroline Westall E Ontario, Essex North, Walkerville 1863 Ontario Wife > > Henry Westall Annie Ontario, London City 1884 England Head > Annie Westall Henry Ontario, London City 1889 Ontario Wife > Catherine Westall George, > > Mary Ontario, Simcoe South, Gwillimbury West 1891 England Daughter > > Edward Westall Edith Ontario, Toronto East, Ward 2 1884 England Head > Edith Westall Edward Ontario, Toronto East, Ward 2 1881 England Wife > John Westall Edward,Edith Ontario, Toronto East, Ward 2 1910 England Son > > William Westall Edward,Edith Ontario, Toronto East, Ward 2 1910 Ontario > Son > Edna Westall Edward, Edith Ontario, Toronto East, Ward 2 1911 Ontario > Daughter > > Bassile Westall British Columbia, Vancouver, Vancouver City 1886 Italy > Lodger > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft® Windows® and Linux web and application > hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HI My William Albert WESTELL died at sea & was buried in New York about 1907. I have tried & tried to find out where or details to no avail. Any ideas anyone Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: <bobatbmw@cox.net> To: <WESTALL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 12:49 AM Subject: [WESTALL] Westalls in 14911 Canadian Census The following was found in the 1911 Canadian Census. Some are US born, some Canadian and a few English born! Are any of the above familiar? Another whole new area to digest! Bob Westall Name Parent or spouse names Home in 1911 (Province, District, Sub-District) Birth Year Birthplace Relation Ressel Westall Eba British Columbia, Kootenay, Fernie 1883 USA Head Eba Westall Ressel British Columbia, Kootenay, Fernie 1889 USA Wife May Westall Ressel, Eba British Columbia, Kootenay, Fernie 1907 USA Daughter Joseph Westall Ressel,Eba British Columbia, Kootenay, Fernie 1909 USA Son Walter Westall Mabel British Columbia, Vancouver, South Vancouver 1883 England Head Mabel Westall Walter British Columbia, Vancouver, South Vancouver 1880 Ontario Wife Geo Westall Violet Saskatchewan, Moosejaw 1870 Ontario Head Violet Westall Geo Saskatchewan, Moosejaw 1883 Ontario Wife Wm A Westall Geo, Violet Saskatchewan, Moosejaw 1893 Ontario Son Beyrl Westall Geo, Violet Saskatchewan, Moosejaw 1895 USA Daughter Bernice Westall Geo, Violet Saskatchewan, Moosejaw 1895 USA Daughter Chester Westall Vernon Manitoba, Winnipeg City, Winnipeg 1885 Ontario Head Thersa Westall New Brunswick, York, Canterbury 1852 New Brunswick Servant Allison Westall Thomas, Nellia New Brunswick, Carleton, Woodstock 1902 Nova Scotia Son Pauline Westall Thomas, Nellia New Brunswick, Carleton, Woodstock 1904 New Brunswick Daughter Gilford Westall Mable Nova Scotia, Yarmouth, Tusket Lake 1861 New Brunswick Head Mable Westall Gilford Nova Scotia, Yarmouth, Tusket Lake 1873 Nova Scotia Wife Omar Westall Susan Ontario, Bruce North, Kincardine 1867 Ontario Head Susan Westall Omar Ontario, Bruce North, Kincardine 1861 Ontario Wife Oser Westall Omar,Susan Ontario, Bruce North, Kincardine 1891 Ontario Son Lorena Westall Omar,Susan Ontario, Bruce North, Kincardine 1893 Ontario Daughter May Westall Omar,Susan Ontario, Bruce North, Kincardine 1895 Ontario Daughter Earl Westall Omar,Susan Ontario, Bruce North, Kincardine 1901 Ontario Son Lula Westall Omar,Susan Ontario, Bruce North, Kincardine 1903 Ontario Daughter William Westall Susan Ontario, Durham, Millbrook, part 1868 England Head usan Westall William Ontario, Durham, Millbrook, part 1871 Ontario Wife Stanley W Westall William,Susan Ontario, Durham, Millbrook, part 1893 Ontario Son Helen F Westall William, Susan Ontario, Durham, Millbrook, part 1896 Ontario Daughter AdaF Westall William,Susan Ontario, Durham, Millbrook, part 1899 Ontario Daughter awleth Westall William, Susan Ontario, Durham, Millbrook, part 1901 Ontario Daughter E Westall Caroline Ontario, Essex North, Walkerville 1843 England Head Caroline Westall E Ontario, Essex North, Walkerville 1863 Ontario Wife Henry Westall Annie Ontario, London City 1884 England Head Annie Westall Henry Ontario, London City 1889 Ontario Wife Catherine Westall George, Mary Ontario, Simcoe South, Gwillimbury West 1891 England Daughter Edward Westall Edith Ontario, Toronto East, Ward 2 1884 England Head Edith Westall Edward Ontario, Toronto East, Ward 2 1881 England Wife John Westall Edward,Edith Ontario, Toronto East, Ward 2 1910 England Son William Westall Edward,Edith Ontario, Toronto East, Ward 2 1910 Ontario Son Edna Westall Edward, Edith Ontario, Toronto East, Ward 2 1911 Ontario Daughter Bassile Westall British Columbia, Vancouver, Vancouver City 1886 Italy Lodger -------------------------------------------------------------------- myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft® Windows® and Linux web and application hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry, nothing that will help. However, I was interested in seeing the name Albert, which was the name of my father-in-law, Albert J. Westall (1901-1962). He also had an uncle named Albert (1878-1965). Not the most common given name, and I don't know just how it happened to crop up in this family line. I can take this ancestral line back two more generations to a Thomas Westall who died of cholera in Texas in 1833, but find no other references to the name Albert. William is pretty common, of course. That was the first name of my father-in-law's great-grandfather back in North Carolina. Thomas's ancestral records appear to have disappeared in Virginia along about the American Revolution. Always ready to clutch at any straws that might appear, however. Regards, Tom Camfield > From: "Christine Charles" <chris1@bigpond.net.au> > Reply-To: westall@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 07:04:45 +1000 > To: <bobatbmw@cox.net>, <westall@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [WESTALL] Buried in New York > > HI > > My William Albert WESTELL died at sea & was buried in New York about 1907. > > I have tried & tried to find out where or details to no avail. Any ideas > anyone > > Christine > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <bobatbmw@cox.net> > To: <WESTALL@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 12:49 AM > Subject: [WESTALL] Westalls in 14911 Canadian Census > > > The following was found in the 1911 Canadian Census. Some are US born, > some Canadian and a few English born! Are any of the above familiar? > Another whole new area to digest! > > Bob Westall > > > Name Parent or spouse names Home in 1911 > (Province, District, Sub-District) Birth Year Birthplace Relation > > Ressel Westall Eba British Columbia, Kootenay, Fernie 1883 USA Head > Eba Westall Ressel British Columbia, Kootenay, Fernie 1889 USA Wife > May Westall Ressel, Eba British Columbia, Kootenay, Fernie 1907 USA > Daughter > Joseph Westall Ressel,Eba British Columbia, Kootenay, Fernie 1909 USA Son > > > Walter Westall Mabel British Columbia, Vancouver, South Vancouver 1883 > England Head > Mabel Westall Walter British Columbia, Vancouver, South Vancouver 1880 > Ontario Wife > > Geo Westall Violet Saskatchewan, Moosejaw 1870 Ontario Head > Violet Westall Geo Saskatchewan, Moosejaw 1883 Ontario Wife > Wm A Westall Geo, Violet Saskatchewan, Moosejaw 1893 Ontario Son > Beyrl Westall Geo, Violet Saskatchewan, Moosejaw 1895 USA Daughter > Bernice Westall Geo, Violet Saskatchewan, Moosejaw 1895 USA Daughter > > Chester Westall Vernon Manitoba, Winnipeg City, Winnipeg 1885 Ontario > Head > > Thersa Westall New Brunswick, York, Canterbury 1852 New Brunswick > Servant > > Allison Westall Thomas, Nellia New Brunswick, Carleton, Woodstock 1902 > Nova Scotia Son > Pauline Westall Thomas, Nellia New Brunswick, Carleton, Woodstock 1904 New > Brunswick Daughter > > Gilford Westall Mable Nova Scotia, Yarmouth, Tusket Lake 1861 New > Brunswick Head > Mable Westall Gilford Nova Scotia, Yarmouth, Tusket Lake 1873 Nova Scotia > Wife > > Omar Westall Susan Ontario, Bruce North, Kincardine 1867 Ontario Head > Susan Westall Omar Ontario, Bruce North, Kincardine 1861 Ontario Wife > Oser Westall Omar,Susan Ontario, Bruce North, Kincardine 1891 Ontario Son > > Lorena Westall Omar,Susan Ontario, Bruce North, Kincardine 1893 Ontario > Daughter > May Westall Omar,Susan Ontario, Bruce North, Kincardine 1895 Ontario > Daughter > Earl Westall Omar,Susan Ontario, Bruce North, Kincardine 1901 Ontario Son > > Lula Westall Omar,Susan Ontario, Bruce North, Kincardine 1903 Ontario > Daughter > > William Westall Susan Ontario, Durham, Millbrook, part 1868 England Head > > usan Westall William Ontario, Durham, Millbrook, part 1871 Ontario Wife > Stanley W Westall William,Susan Ontario, Durham, Millbrook, part 1893 > Ontario Son > Helen F Westall William, Susan Ontario, Durham, Millbrook, part 1896 > Ontario Daughter > AdaF Westall William,Susan Ontario, Durham, Millbrook, part 1899 Ontario > Daughter > awleth Westall William, Susan Ontario, Durham, Millbrook, part 1901 > Ontario Daughter > > E Westall Caroline Ontario, Essex North, Walkerville 1843 England Head > Caroline Westall E Ontario, Essex North, Walkerville 1863 Ontario Wife > > Henry Westall Annie Ontario, London City 1884 England Head > Annie Westall Henry Ontario, London City 1889 Ontario Wife > Catherine Westall George, > > Mary Ontario, Simcoe South, Gwillimbury West 1891 England Daughter > > Edward Westall Edith Ontario, Toronto East, Ward 2 1884 England Head > Edith Westall Edward Ontario, Toronto East, Ward 2 1881 England Wife > John Westall Edward,Edith Ontario, Toronto East, Ward 2 1910 England Son > > William Westall Edward,Edith Ontario, Toronto East, Ward 2 1910 Ontario > Son > Edna Westall Edward, Edith Ontario, Toronto East, Ward 2 1911 Ontario > Daughter > > Bassile Westall British Columbia, Vancouver, Vancouver City 1886 Italy > Lodger > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft® Windows® and Linux web and application > hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message