Eileen, This really does get more confusing as the George Westall (b Bet. Jan - Mar 1841) that married Mary Woolford (Bet. Oct - Dec 1862) was the son of William Westall and his wife Sarah nee Pounds. There is another George Westall b Bet. Jan - Mar 1840 in Wiltshire also. The 2nd George Westall was the son of John Newman Westall. The difference is age is so close that it complicates figuring out who belongs to whom I believe? I agree that the George Westall b 1854 is the son of George Westall b 1806. Yes I also believe that it looks like he married Martha Ann Pike b Bet. Apr - Jun 1859 and they had a son by the name of William Westall born in either Oct - Dec 1876 or 1877. If his birth was 1876 his name was William George Westall. As far as George and Martha's neighbors are concerned I agree that they may be related to the Newman and Pike families I have in the data base but I am not sure of the connection and frankly that priority is a low one. You mentioned earlier that John Newman Westall had 11 children I believe. I have come up with only George b Bet. Jan - Mar 1840, Charles b Bet. Oct - Dec 1842, William b Bet. Jan - Mar 1848, Sarah Elizabeth b Bet. Oct - Dec 1851, Eliza Ann b Bet. Jul - Sep 1854, Stephen b Bet. Jan - Mar 1857, and John b Bet. Jul - Sep 1859. Do you have these also and which ones am I missing? Great work Eileen. Genealogy reminds me of trying to eat a soup sandwich! It can get a little messy if you know what I mean. Bob From: J & E Armstrong [mailto:ellmay7@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 1:08 AM To: Bob Westall Subject: Westall Bob I have a George Westall b abt 1840 in Great Bedwyn. In the 1881 census he has a wife named Mary and theywere living in the High Street Ramsbury. I haven't come across any Woolfords as yet. And another George Westall b 1854, youngest son of George Westall [b Ramsbury 1806] and Elizabeth Spanswick [b 1809]. He married Martha Ann Pike on 26 Aug 1876. In the 1881 census there was one son named William. They were living in White House Lane Ramsbury. Next door to them were Charlotte Pike A widow age 49 b Wilton. and three sons, Matthias 12, William D, 9 and James 7. Also living in White House lane at that time were Thomas Newman age 64 and his wife Louisa age 61. Could this be Thomas Newman and Sara Westall's first legitimate son? in the other censuses you sent it is certainly the right Thomas Newman and the family. In the 1851 census I have sisters Jane 1824 and Sarah 1835 I have George Westall married to Mary Woolford 8 Nov 1862 but don't know if that is the one you have as it doesn't tell me of his parents. Sorry this is a bit disjointed but I have had several interruptions and lost my track.. Will go over things again later. Hope this all doesn't add to the confusion. Kind regards Eileen. E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11070 http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ <http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/> E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11080 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

Fred, Eileen, and Christine The further you go the more complicated it seems to get. George Westall b Bet. Jan - Mar 1841 in Wiltshire married Mary Woolford b Bet. Jan - Mar 1845 Wilthire. Mary's parents were George and Charlotte Woolford nee Palmer. I have not made any connection between this George Woolford and any other Woolford's in Wiltshire. Another point is that the other Wiltshire Westall family has also intermarried with the Woolford family of Wiltshire William Westall b 1871 (Wiltshire) married Sarah Maria Woolford b Bet. Jan - Mar 1870 (Wiltshire). Sarah Maria's parents were Edwin(b 1833) and Sarah* Woolford nee Newman. Edwin Woolford's parents were Ambrose (b 1801) and Maria Woolford Sarah Westall b 1794 Wiltshire was the daughter of John Appleford Westall b 1764. Anyway this Sara Westall married Thomas Newman b 1764. You guessed it as Sarah Westall and Thomas Newman were the parents of the Sarah Newman* who married Edwin Woolford. Man when you look at it that way it becomes so simple. Ya, sure it does! Another small point would be is Ambrose Woolford b 1801 Wiltshire, the brother of Joseph Woolford? I believe they were both born in Wiltshire. I show a William Woolford no DOB as Joseph Woolford's father. Could this William also be Ambrose Woolford's father? I sure hope some of this makes some sense to someone! J & E Armstrong [ellmay7@bigpond.net.au] Regards Bob Westall E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11070 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

Eileen, If you look at the 1871 census of Sarah Newman I emailed earlier today she is living at 25 Axford. Living next door to her at 26 Axford is her younger brother Thomas Westall now a widower age 71 who is still shown as an Agricultural Laborer. Finding this makes me believe that this Sarah is the one that belongs to you! Bob Westall 1871 England Census Name: Thomas Westall Age: 71 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1800 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Axford, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Ramsbury Town: Axford County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: 26 Axford Occupation: Ag Laborer Condition as to marriage: Widower Registration district: Hungerford Sub registration district: Hungerford ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 26 Thomas Westall Head..Wd..71..Ag Laborer..Wilts, Axford E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11050 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

Eileen, I have now found the 1851, 1861 and 1871 Census for a Thomas Newman family. In 1871 Sarah (a widow) was living with her son Stephen and his family at 25 Axford. Could this be the right Thomas Newman and family. In the info I was given on this family it shows a son by the name of John Westall, not John Newman Westall. If this John was the son of Thomas Newman and Sarah nee Westall wouldn't his name have been John Westall Newman? If you look at the 1851 census it does show a Sarah Newman age 16 but not a Jane Newman. Sarah wife of Thomas had a sister by the name of Jane b 1796. Could the daughter of Thomas and Sarah Newman be Sarah Jane Newman b 1824? Who me confused? Bob 1851 England Census Name: Sarah Newman Age: 56 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1795 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Thomas Gender: Female Where born: Axford, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Ramsbury County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: 47 Axford Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Hungerford Sub registration district: Kintbury ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Household schedule number: 47 Thomas Newman Head..M..53..Agr Laborer.... Wiltshire, Overton Sarah Newman Wife...M..56..........................Wiltshire, Ramsbury Stephen Newman Son.....S..21..Agr Laborer....Wiltshire, Axford George Newman Son....S..18..Agr Laborer....Wiltshire, Axford Sarah Newman Dau....S..16..Agr Laborer....Wiltshire, Axford George Joseph Newman Son....S..14..Agr Laborer....Wiltshire, Axford Charles Newman Son....S....7..Agr Laborer....Wiltshire, Axford William Pike Son-in-Law...M...21..Agr Laborer....Wiltshire, Mary Pike Dau...M...26..........................Wiltshire, Axford ############################### 1861 England Census Name: Thomas Newman Age: 66 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1795 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Overton, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Ramsbury County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: 82 Cottage and Axford Hill Occupation: Ag Laborer Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Hungerford Sub registration district: Hungerford ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 82 Thomas Newman Head..M..66..Ag Laborer..Overton, Wiltshire Sarah Newman Wife...M,,68......................Axford, Wiltshire George Newman Son...S...26..Shepherd.....Axford, Wiltshire Charles Newman Son...S..17..Ag Laborer...Axford, Wiltshire ############################## 1871 England Census about Sarah Newman Name: Sarah Newman Age: 81 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1790 Relation: Mother Gender: Female Where born: Axford, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Ramsbury Town: Axford County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: 25 Axford Occupation: Ag Laborer Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Hungerford Sub registration district: Hungerford ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 25 Stephen Newman Head..M..43..Ag Laborer..Wilts, Axford Elizabeth Newman Wife...M..35......................Wilts, John Newman Son....S....9..Plough Boy..Wilts, Ramsbury Joseph Newman Son....S.....7..Scholar.......Wilts, Ramsbury Henry Newman Son....S.....2.....................Wlits, Axford Sarah Newman Mother...Wd..81..Pauper.......Wlits, Axford From: J & E Armstrong [mailto:ellmay7@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:35 PM To: Bob Westall Subject: Westall Bob I am currently filling in some gaps in my GEDCOM and when all I have are in I will send them on to you. Do any Westalls know anything about Thomas Newman [married Sarah Westall after the birth of John Newman Westall] my GGrandfather, I am stuck on the wall!! Best wishes Eileen PS How's the weather up there with you? E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11050 http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ <http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/> E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11050 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

Eileen, You had sent me the email below about 1870+ Westalls in your tree. Could you send me a GEDCOM on the info so I can add it to the Westall Data Base. We have had a lot of great info sent to the list lately and it is really great. I really get excited when we make so much progress in our family! Warmest regards as ever. Bob Westall From: J & E Armstrong [mailto:ellmay1@bigpond.com] Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 12:22 AM To: Bob Westall Subject: Re: Amos Blake Bob Yes I do have Mark 1703 and his brother Edward.b 23 Feb 1695and d 1767. I guess we must all belong to a basic Westall somewhere along the line! I do have family updates on the 1870+ westalls in my tree but we have the painters in and most of those notes are away in a cupboard somewhere! The kembles were a prominent family in Highworth and Stratton districts, being at one stage Lords of the Manor for over 100 years and also farmers employing men and having acres . Eileen. Eileen E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) Database version: 5.11050e http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/

Ok Sorry I mustn't have read it properly Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Jones" <dee-jay@jones2115.fsnet.co.uk> To: <westall@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [WESTALL] Mark Westall > Hi Fred & Christine > > I'm sorry to have confused you but I did not intend to infer > that I had a David amongst my WESTALLs. It was the > occupation that I was pursuing as I have found two, so far > unconnected, WESTALL bargemen operating out of Newbury in > the first quarter of the 19th Century: > > John WESTALL & Charlotte [nee BRUNSDON] at Quarrington's > Yard in 1815 [Toomer's Census]. > William WESTALL & Sarah [nee LEWIS] married 1820 at Newbury > St Nicolas [my direct ancestors]. > > After Charlotte's death John moved on to Reading, remarried > to Sarah WYATT and became a Barge Agent. However, neither > of these menfolk lived to complete an 1851 Census return > giving their origins; in fact William did not even make it > to 1841 so I don't know if he was born in County, let alone > his parentage. No occupations were recorded for widow Sarah > or her sons in 1841. > > Like David, these WESTALLs must have made an early > transition from the land to industry as I have yet to find > any entries in PRs recording them as Ag Labs. The 1851 > Enumerator, or his superior, returned to 'my' WESTALLs' > schedule and inserted an out-of alignment 'Ag' in front of > the original Labourer entries, when these WESTALLs had > already evolved to the plumbing/bricklaying/painter & > decorator trades, the latter probably accounting for their > early demise due to lead pigment. > > William had provided a very confident signature at marriage; > two of his sons were articulate Nonconformists who, > following in their mother's footsteps, became members of the > Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints in the 1840s. > William junr became an Elder and Francis a Teacher of the > Gospel. However, I have a strong suspicion that they may > have switched allegiance from the Primitive Brethren but I > have yet to find provenance. > > I find that bargemen are as problematic as coachmen: if > they did not live to see the 1851 Enumerator and there is no > family hearsay, the link to earlier generations is extremely > elusive as their dependants don't appear to have resorted to > parish relief! > > Kind regards. > Dorothy > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi to all To Dorothy & Fred Re : David W bap 1752 I don't recall there being two David W's when I went through the PR's. Did you go through them too Fred? I'm wondering if the two David's are one & the same person. Dorothy do you know your David's parents or spouse? If not what about William (son of David) his spouse? By the way Fred if I remember rightly Rachel's surname was spelt WESTELL not with the A . I will check that and I do hope you did not get that spelling with the A from me as for ease I made them all with the A despite the fact mine changed their names mid 1800's LOLL- sorry Christine

Hi Fred & Christine I'm sorry to have confused you but I did not intend to infer that I had a David amongst my WESTALLs. It was the occupation that I was pursuing as I have found two, so far unconnected, WESTALL bargemen operating out of Newbury in the first quarter of the 19th Century: John WESTALL & Charlotte [nee BRUNSDON] at Quarrington's Yard in 1815 [Toomer's Census]. William WESTALL & Sarah [nee LEWIS] married 1820 at Newbury St Nicolas [my direct ancestors]. After Charlotte's death John moved on to Reading, remarried to Sarah WYATT and became a Barge Agent. However, neither of these menfolk lived to complete an 1851 Census return giving their origins; in fact William did not even make it to 1841 so I don't know if he was born in County, let alone his parentage. No occupations were recorded for widow Sarah or her sons in 1841. Like David, these WESTALLs must have made an early transition from the land to industry as I have yet to find any entries in PRs recording them as Ag Labs. The 1851 Enumerator, or his superior, returned to 'my' WESTALLs' schedule and inserted an out-of alignment 'Ag' in front of the original Labourer entries, when these WESTALLs had already evolved to the plumbing/bricklaying/painter & decorator trades, the latter probably accounting for their early demise due to lead pigment. William had provided a very confident signature at marriage; two of his sons were articulate Nonconformists who, following in their mother's footsteps, became members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints in the 1840s. William junr became an Elder and Francis a Teacher of the Gospel. However, I have a strong suspicion that they may have switched allegiance from the Primitive Brethren but I have yet to find provenance. I find that bargemen are as problematic as coachmen: if they did not live to see the 1851 Enumerator and there is no family hearsay, the link to earlier generations is extremely elusive as their dependants don't appear to have resorted to parish relief! Kind regards. Dorothy

Hi Dorothy My 4th great grandfather David Westall married Hannah Sims on 26 Oct 1777 in Inkpen, Wilts. They had three children: 1. George Westall (bap. 3 May 1780 in Kintbury, Berks). He married Mary Ann Brooks (bap. 21 Jul 1782, Preshute Wilts) on 13 Jun 1808 in Kintbury. 2. William Westall (bap. 12 Jan 1783 in Kintbury, Berks). He married Rachel Westall (b.1779) on 19 Jun 1803 in Shalbourne, Wilts. She was William's cousin. 3. Sarah Westall (bap. 23 Nov 1777 in Kintbury, Berks). I know nothing more about Sarah and I would be grateful for any information. I have six David Westall's on my family tree in addition to my direct ancestor above:. 1. David Westall (bap. 12 Oct 1783, Aldbourne Wilts) who married Anne Marshall (bap. 21 Mar 1784, Ramsbury) on 10 Oct 1808 in Lambourne. They had 6 children one being William Westall (bap 31 Dec 1809, Lambourne). 2. David Westall (bap. 07 Jul 1804, Lambourne) who married Elizabeth (?) and had 5 children, one of whom was : 3. David Westall (bap. 13 Nov 1831, Lambourne Berks). 4. David Westall (bap. 15 Nov 1840, Baydon) son of William Westall and Elizabeth Addis (m.18 Nov 1837, Baydon). 5. David Richard Westall (b. 1882, Lambourne), killed in action in Amara, Iraq on 2 Jul 1916. 6. David Anthony Westall (b. 15 Mar 1941, Barry) None of these fit your profile so I'd be interested to know more about 'your' David. Regards, Fred -------------------------------------------------- From: "Dorothy Jones" <dee-jay@jones2115.fsnet.co.uk> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 11:34 AM To: <westall@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [WESTALL] Mark Westall > Fred > > I don't suppose 'your' David had sons named William or John > who went eastwards working on the Kennet & Avon Canal? > > Dorothy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fred Westall" <fred_westall@msn.com> > To: <westall@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 11:48 AM > Subject: Re: [WESTALL] Mark Westall > > > 'Snipped' > The River Kennet flows nearby and further downstream is > the town of Kintbury and some major locks on the Kennet and > Avon Canal where my 4th great grandfather David Westall (b. > 1752, Baydon Wilts) made the giant leap from working in > agriculture to the industrial revolution as a canal > labourer. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Fred I don't suppose 'your' David had sons named William or John who went eastwards working on the Kennet & Avon Canal? Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Westall" <fred_westall@msn.com> To: <westall@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [WESTALL] Mark Westall 'Snipped' The River Kennet flows nearby and further downstream is the town of Kintbury and some major locks on the Kennet and Avon Canal where my 4th great grandfather David Westall (b. 1752, Baydon Wilts) made the giant leap from working in agriculture to the industrial revolution as a canal labourer.

Bob, Yes indeed, Mark Westall (bap. 5 Sep 1703, Aldbourne Wilts) appears to be the branching point between the Ramsbury and Aldbourne Westall's. His parents were William Westall (bap. 16 Jun 1659, Aldbourne) and Sarah Sylvester (bap 29 Aug 1660, Lacock Wilts). Mark's brother was Edward (bap 23 Feb 1695, Aldbourne), and he was my 6th great grandfather. Ramsbury is a couple of miles to the south of Aldbourne. The River Kennet flows nearby and further downstream is the town of Kintbury and some major locks on the Kennet and Avon Canal where my 4th great grandfather David Westall (b. 1752, Baydon Wilts) made the giant leap from working in agriculture to the industrial revolution as a canal labourer. Follow the canals westawards from Kintbury and you follow the tracks of my Westall ancestors to where I was born in Cardiff Wales, 250 years later. Fred -------------------------------------------------- From: "Bob Westall" <bobatbmw@cox.net> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 5:44 PM To: <WESTALL@rootsweb.com> Subject: [WESTALL] Mark Westall > Fred and Christine, > > > > You are both related to the John Appleford Westall family of Ramsbury, > Wiltshire, Eng. Where does your family branch off of the Ramsbury family? > > > > Could it be Mark Westall b ca. 1700 to 1707 who m Sarah in Wiltshire, Eng? > How far is Aldbourne from Ramsbury, Wiltshire? > > > > Everyone please forgive me when I ask so many questions as I have 30+ > Westall family groups and sometimes it gets so confusing I cannot believe > it. As we are all aware the same family names occur over and over again > so > it makes it doubly tough to keep them straight. > > > > Thank you everyone for your assistance and patience. > > > > Bob > > > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) > Database version: 5.10980e > http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Bob Aldbourne is a village,or was when we used to get on our bikes at the weekend and all homework and chores done! South of Swindon out off the Marlborough road. Eileen.

I am related to the second family No link at this point to the first though Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Westall" <bobatbmw@cox.net> To: <WESTALL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 12:19 PM Subject: [WESTALL] Westall of Ramsbury, Wiltshire, Eng > Hello all, > > > > Would those interested in the Westall family of Ramsbury, Wiltshire please > take a look at the following. I have two Westall families both in > Ramsbury, > Wiltshire. > > > > The one Westall has Henry Westall b ca. 1799 in Ramsbury and he married > Hannah Hind on 14 Oct 1824 Ramsbury, Wiltshire, Eng. The children I show > are as follows: > > > > Ann > > Jane > > Hannah > > Edward > > Emily > > Thomas > > > > In the 1861 Census Hannah and children were living with her parents. > Hannah and her children all have the Westall name? > > > > Taken from the 1861 British Census > > > > Name: Hannah Westall > > Age: 29 > > Estimated birth year: abt 1832 > > Relation: Daughter > > Gender: Female > > Where born: Ramsbury, Wiltshire, England > > Civil parish: Ramsbury > > County/Island: Wiltshire > > Country: England > > Street address: 62 Oxford St. > > Condition as to marriage: Unmarried > > Occupation: Ag Lab > > Source information: RG9/725 > > Registration district: Hungerford > > Sub-registration district: Hungerford > > ED, institution, or vessel: 15 > > Folio: 50 > > Page: 10 > > Household schedule number: 62 > > GSU Number: 542691 > > > > Henry Westall Head..M..61..Laborer.....Ramsbury, Wilts > > Hannah Wife...M..60....................Ramsbury, Wilts > > Jane Dau....S..34..?? Af Lab...Ramsbury, Wilts > > Hannah Dau....S..29..Ag Lab.......Ramsbury, Wilts > > Sarah A. . GDau....S....8....................Ramsbury, Wilts > > Emma .GDau....S....6....................Ramsbury, Wilts > > Edward .. GSon....S...2....................Ramsbury, Wilts > > > > I am sure at least one of our members has info on this family! > > > > The Second family is also from Ramsbury and it has John Appleford Westall > b > 02 Sep 1764 in Ramsbury, Wiltshire, Eng as a member. John married > Elizabeth > Lewington on 28 May 1787! > > > > Their children were : > > > > Richard > > William > > Ann > > Sarah > > Jane > > William > > Thomas > > Stephen b Bef. 26 Aug 1804 Stephen had three wives! > > George b Bef. 31 Aug 1806 > > > > For some time I have been trying to link these two families together with > no > success. Does anyone have the answer? I feel sure that we have a couple > of Ramsbury researchers in our group! > > > > Bob > > > > > > > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) > Database version: 5.10970e > http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Bob Have looked hard but can't find a Henry in my tree which comes down via John Appleford Westall [m Elizabeth Lewington] or Mary Westall [m Joseph Lewington] There seem to be a lot of Westalls in what was then a small town or large village. Regards Eileen.

Fred and Christine, You are both related to the John Appleford Westall family of Ramsbury, Wiltshire, Eng. Where does your family branch off of the Ramsbury family? Could it be Mark Westall b ca. 1700 to 1707 who m Sarah in Wiltshire, Eng? How far is Aldbourne from Ramsbury, Wiltshire? Everyone please forgive me when I ask so many questions as I have 30+ Westall family groups and sometimes it gets so confusing I cannot believe it. As we are all aware the same family names occur over and over again so it makes it doubly tough to keep them straight. Thank you everyone for your assistance and patience. Bob E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) Database version: 5.10980e http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/

Hi Bob, I am also related to the second family (John Appleford Westall). I am aware of the first family (Henry and Hannah) but I haven't been able to find a connection with the other Westall groups from Ramsbury. Fred -------------------------------------------------- From: "Bob Westall" <bobatbmw@cox.net> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 2:19 AM To: <WESTALL@rootsweb.com> Subject: [WESTALL] Westall of Ramsbury, Wiltshire, Eng > Hello all, > > > > Would those interested in the Westall family of Ramsbury, Wiltshire please > take a look at the following. I have two Westall families both in > Ramsbury, > Wiltshire. > > > > The one Westall has Henry Westall b ca. 1799 in Ramsbury and he married > Hannah Hind on 14 Oct 1824 Ramsbury, Wiltshire, Eng. The children I show > are as follows: > > > > Ann > > Jane > > Hannah > > Edward > > Emily > > Thomas > > > > In the 1861 Census Hannah and children were living with her parents. > Hannah and her children all have the Westall name? > > > > Taken from the 1861 British Census > > > > Name: Hannah Westall > > Age: 29 > > Estimated birth year: abt 1832 > > Relation: Daughter > > Gender: Female > > Where born: Ramsbury, Wiltshire, England > > Civil parish: Ramsbury > > County/Island: Wiltshire > > Country: England > > Street address: 62 Oxford St. > > Condition as to marriage: Unmarried > > Occupation: Ag Lab > > Source information: RG9/725 > > Registration district: Hungerford > > Sub-registration district: Hungerford > > ED, institution, or vessel: 15 > > Folio: 50 > > Page: 10 > > Household schedule number: 62 > > GSU Number: 542691 > > > > Henry Westall Head..M..61..Laborer.....Ramsbury, Wilts > > Hannah Wife...M..60....................Ramsbury, Wilts > > Jane Dau....S..34..?? Af Lab...Ramsbury, Wilts > > Hannah Dau....S..29..Ag Lab.......Ramsbury, Wilts > > Sarah A. . GDau....S....8....................Ramsbury, Wilts > > Emma .GDau....S....6....................Ramsbury, Wilts > > Edward .. GSon....S...2....................Ramsbury, Wilts > > > > I am sure at least one of our members has info on this family! > > > > The Second family is also from Ramsbury and it has John Appleford Westall > b > 02 Sep 1764 in Ramsbury, Wiltshire, Eng as a member. John married > Elizabeth > Lewington on 28 May 1787! > > > > Their children were : > > > > Richard > > William > > Ann > > Sarah > > Jane > > William > > Thomas > > Stephen b Bef. 26 Aug 1804 Stephen had three wives! > > George b Bef. 31 Aug 1806 > > > > For some time I have been trying to link these two families together with > no > success. Does anyone have the answer? I feel sure that we have a couple > of Ramsbury researchers in our group! > > > > Bob > > > > > > > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) > Database version: 5.10970e > http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello all, Would those interested in the Westall family of Ramsbury, Wiltshire please take a look at the following. I have two Westall families both in Ramsbury, Wiltshire. The one Westall has Henry Westall b ca. 1799 in Ramsbury and he married Hannah Hind on 14 Oct 1824 Ramsbury, Wiltshire, Eng. The children I show are as follows: Ann Jane Hannah Edward Emily Thomas In the 1861 Census Hannah and children were living with her parents. Hannah and her children all have the Westall name? Taken from the 1861 British Census Name: Hannah Westall Age: 29 Estimated birth year: abt 1832 Relation: Daughter Gender: Female Where born: Ramsbury, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Ramsbury County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: 62 Oxford St. Condition as to marriage: Unmarried Occupation: Ag Lab Source information: RG9/725 Registration district: Hungerford Sub-registration district: Hungerford ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Folio: 50 Page: 10 Household schedule number: 62 GSU Number: 542691 Henry Westall Head..M..61..Laborer.....Ramsbury, Wilts Hannah Wife...M..60....................Ramsbury, Wilts Jane Dau....S..34..?? Af Lab...Ramsbury, Wilts Hannah Dau....S..29..Ag Lab.......Ramsbury, Wilts Sarah A. . GDau....S....8....................Ramsbury, Wilts Emma .GDau....S....6....................Ramsbury, Wilts Edward .. GSon....S...2....................Ramsbury, Wilts I am sure at least one of our members has info on this family! The Second family is also from Ramsbury and it has John Appleford Westall b 02 Sep 1764 in Ramsbury, Wiltshire, Eng as a member. John married Elizabeth Lewington on 28 May 1787! Their children were : Richard William Ann Sarah Jane William Thomas Stephen b Bef. 26 Aug 1804 Stephen had three wives! George b Bef. 31 Aug 1806 For some time I have been trying to link these two families together with no success. Does anyone have the answer? I feel sure that we have a couple of Ramsbury researchers in our group! Bob E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) Database version: 5.10970e http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/

I have received an inquiry about a Charles Robert Westall b 1885. The email follows. "Hi Bob, I've just discovered a posting you made on Rootsweb in August .I'm currently researching a friend's Westall line. Her father was a Charles Robert Westall born 1885, son of William Walter Westall & Louisa Webb who married in the Bethnal Green Reg district in 1878. She's a child of Charles Robert's second/possibly third marriage. Her father was the son of William Walter Westall, born 1858, who in turn was the son of another William Walter Westall born 1839 who married Harriet Crossman in 1859. It would seem that the Charles bn 1871[ the French Polisher] was the brother of WW Westall born 1858. Both are grandsons of Thomas Westall the landscape painter from Mayden, Oxfordshire. When I've confirmed my research, i.e. when all the copy certificates have been ordered to cross-check census info, I'd be happy to pass the findings on to you if you 'd like to have them." The Thomas Westall mentioned in the email was Thomas Westall b 1794 St Mayden, Oxfordshire, Eng who married Elizabeth b 1794 St. Giles, Middlesex, Eng Their children were: Harriet Westall b 1817 in Newbury, Berkshire, Eng George Westall b 1820 in Newbury, Berkshire, Eng Anne Westall b 1824 in St Eles, Oxfordshire, Eng John Westall b 1824 in St Eles, Oxfordshire, Eng Thomas Westall b 1830 in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, Eng Selina Westall b 1835 in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, Eng William Walter Westall b Bet. Jan - Mar 1839 in Margletone, Middlesex, Eng. I have a reasonable amount of info on this family but does anyone recognize anything about the family. I believe the first wife of Charles Robert may have been Bertha Lillian Pearman b Bet. Jan - Mar 1892 in Pancras, Middlesex, Eng. They were m Bet. Apr - Jun 1912 in Islington, Middlesex, Eng. I believe they had one child that I know of: Eric A. Westall Bet. Oct - Dec 1912 in Hampstead, Middlesex, Eng. The emailer thought Charles Robert Westall may have been married 2 or 3 times? Any assist on this would be very appreciated. Bob E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) Database version: 5.10940e http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/

Morning Bob, I have the whole history of David Westall & Susanna. They came to the US and settled in Mass. I will dig out my records later today and post the info. Keep up the good work. Tim Westhall - Northport, NY **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002)

Is there anyone on the list that has any Westall connections to Trowbridge, Wiltshire, Eng ca. 1808 to 1851? Westall's with Wiltshire connections please look this over! I have been working on a David Westall b ca. 1810. I believe David married Susanna Beaverstock b ca. 1814 Bet. Oct - Dec 1837 in Melksham, Wiltshire, Eng. They had the following children: Hannah 1838 Deliah 1841 Solomon Bet. Oct - Dec 1841 James Bet. Jan - Mar 1843 Simon 1852 William 1853 Emma 1854 Charles 1857 Bob Descendants of David Westall Generation No. 1 1. DAVID2 WESTALL (WESTALL1) was born 1810 in Trowbridge, Wiltshire, Eng, and died Aft. 1880 in MA. He married SUSANNA BEAVERSTOCK Bet. Oct - Dec 1837 in Melksham, Wiltshire, Eng. She was born 1814 in Studley, Wiltshire, Eng, and died Bef. 1870. More About DAVID WESTALL: Census: 1880, Lowell, Essex Co., MA Immigration: 31 Aug 1854, Left Liverpool, England aboard the Leucothea and arrived in Boston, MA More About SUSANNA BEAVERSTOCK: Immigration: 31 Aug 1859, Came from Liverpool aboard the Leucothea and landed in Boston, MA Marriage Notes for DAVID WESTALL and SUSANNA BEAVERSTOCK: Taken from Free BMD Marriages Dec 1837 (>99%) Beaverstock Susanna Melksham 8 610A WESTALL David Melksham 8 610a The district Melksham is in the county of Wiltshire Children of DAVID WESTALL and SUSANNA BEAVERSTOCK are: 2. i. HANNAH3 WESTALL, b. 1838, Trowbridge, Wiltshire, Eng; d. Bef. 1920, Essex Co., MA. ii. DELIAH WESTALL, b. 1841, Trowbridge, Wiltshire, Eng. 3. iii. SOLOMON WESTALL, b. Bet. Oct - Dec 1841, Trowbridge, Wiltshire, Eng; d. Bef. 1880, Lewiston, Androscoggin Co., Me. iv. JAMES WESTALL, b. Bet. Jan - Mar 1843, Trowbridge, Wiltshire, Eng. v. SIMON WESTALL, b. 1852, Trowbridge, Wiltshire, Eng. vi. WILLIAM WESTALL, b. 1853, Trowbridge, Wiltshire, Eng. vii. EMMA WESTALL, b. 1854, Trowbridge, Wiltshire, Eng. viii. CHARLES WESTALL, b. 1857, Trowbridge, Wiltshire, Eng. Generation No. 2 2. HANNAH3 WESTALL (DAVID2, WESTALL1) was born 1838 in Trowbridge, Wiltshire, Eng, and died Bef. 1920 in Essex Co., MA. She married FIRTH BROOKS Abt. 1855 in Eng.. He was born 1833 in Eng, and died Bef. 1910 in Essex Co., MA. More About HANNAH WESTALL: Census: 1860, Lowell, Essex Co., MA More About FIRTH BROOKS: Census: 1870, Lawrence Ward 1, Essex Co., MA Occupation: 1870, Boarding House keeper Children of HANNAH WESTALL and FIRTH BROOKS are: i. EDWARD V.4 BROOKS, b. 1857, Eng; m. MARY, 1883, MA; b. Mar 1857, NY. More About EDWARD V. BROOKS: Census: 1860, Lowell Ward 4, Middlesex, MA, Lived with Mr. & Mrs. Henry Shaw Occupation: 1870, At School ii. WALTER H. BROOKS, b. Sep 1864, MA; m. (1) CATHERINE; b. 1882, Canada; m. (2) AURELLA, 1886, MA; b. Feb 1853, Canada. More About WALTER H. BROOKS: Census: 1870, Lawrence Ward 1, Essex Co., MA Occupation: 1870, At School iii. SARAH A. BROOKS, b. 1873, MA. More About SARAH A. BROOKS: Census: 1880, Lowell, Essex Co., MA Occupation: 1880, Attends School 3. SOLOMON3 WESTALL (DAVID2, WESTALL1) was born Bet. Oct - Dec 1841 in Trowbridge, Wiltshire, Eng, and died Bef. 1880 in Lewiston, Androscoggin Co., Me. He married MARY ROBB Abt. 1862 in ME. She was born Jul 1840 in Scotland. More About SOLOMON WESTALL: Census: 1870, 2 Ward, Auburn, Androscoggin Co., ME Immigration: 31 Aug 1859, Left Liverpool, England aboard the Leucothea and arrived in Boston, MA Occupation: 1870, File Cutter More About MARY ROBB: Census: 1870, 2 Ward, Auburn, Androscoggin Co., ME Immigration: 1858, From Scotland Occupation: 1880, Keeping House Children of SOLOMON WESTALL and MARY ROBB are: i. HENRY4 WESTALL, b. 1863, Androscoggin Co. ME. More About HENRY WESTALL: Census: 1870, 2 Ward, Auburn, Androscoggin Co., ME, lived with parents. Occupation: 1880, Peddler ii. MARY WESTALL, b. 1865, Androscoggin Co. ME. More About MARY WESTALL: Census: 1870, 2 Ward, Auburn, Androscoggin Co., ME, lived with parents. Occupation: 1880, At School iii. DELIA M. WESTALL, b. 1867, Androscoggin Co. ME; m. ALBERT H. HEYWOOD, JR., 04 Oct 1892, Lewiston, Androscoggin Co., ME; b. 1864, RI. More About DELIA M. WESTALL: Census: 1870, 2 Ward, Auburn, Androscoggin Co., ME, lived with parents. Marraige: 04 Oct 1892, Lewiston, Androscoggin Co., ME Occupation: 1880, At School More About ALBERT H. HEYWOOD, JR.: Census: 1910, 3 Ward, Newport, Newport Co., RI Occupation: 1910, Letter Carrier iv. GEORGE WESTALL, b. 1869, Androscoggin Co. ME. More About GEORGE WESTALL: Census: 1870, 2 Ward, Auburn, Androscoggin Co., ME, lived with parents. Fact: 1880, At School v. DAVID E. WESTALL, b. Jan 1872, Androscoggin Co. ME; d. Bef. 1960; m. BLANCHE F. FORD, 21 Sep 1904, Lewiston, Androscoggin Co., ME; b. 1880, ME; d. 10 Oct 1961, Bath, Sagadahoc Co., ME. More About DAVID E. WESTALL: Census: 1880, Lewiston, Androscoggin Co., ME, lived with mother. Marraige: 21 Sep 1904, Lewiston, Androscoggin Co., ME Occupation: 1880, At School More About BLANCHE F. FORD: Census: 1930, Lewiston, Androscoggin Co., ME Occupation: 1930, Teacher..????????? E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) Database version: 5.10890e http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/