Oops! In my email yesterday I gave the age of Eliza Westall as 14 when in reality the 1841 UK Census stated it was 23 making her year of birth 1818 or possibly 1817 which would fit the daughter of William Westall b 1773! Bob

This afternoon I made an interesting find. I found a William Westall age 68 (b 1773)in the 1841 Census living in Liverpool, Lancashire and it noted that he was not born in Lancashire. With him was his wife Ann age 54 also not born in Lancashire. Their daughter Eliza was there also age 14 likewise not born in Lancashire. This Westall family appeared to be living in the Margret Cowen age 60 residence? This is by far the closest I have found to the parents of John Tarrant Westall born ca. 1808 in Whitechapel, London. Does anyone have any additional thoughts on this family? Bob 1841 England Census Name: William Westall Age: 68 Estimated birth year: abt 1773 Gender: Male Civil parish: Liverpool Hundred: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: Norton St. Occupation: Ind Registration district: Liverpool Sub-registration district:

Sorry about the size, the extra was a Christmas card that failed to shrink! Regards Eileen

Eileen, Your original message was to large to go to Westall@rootsweb.com This is all I could salvage from your original message sent 12/14/09. Bob Dear Bob I have found a James Tarrant,married to Sarah Westall on 28 September 1766, but haveen't yet traced which family has that Sarah as a daughter. There is a John Tarrant age 66 in the 1861 census with a wife , Mary aged 65 b Mildenhall. They had a son John aged 23 and there was also a George Westall aged 33 living-in as a servant. Have not traced them yet but will look into it , i am working out the Family marriages just now! Regards and best wishes for a Merry Christmas Eileen.

With all the mentions of Hawkins in his children's Christian names, I thought it wise to include that 1841 Census return in case it assisted in identifying John Tarrant WESTALL's in-laws? It looks as if the Mary WESTALL might be JTW's wife and the child could be their eldest daughter. There was confusion in the baptisms with the recording of the names of JTW's wife, as I illustrated, so it is feasible that there was similar confusion in recording their first daughter in 1841, unless of course they appear elsewhere? Incidentally, there are a number of other mentions of these WESTALLs in The London Gazette but I only gave the reference for the most prolific. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Westall" <bobatbmw@cox.net> To: <westall@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 5:33 AM Subject: Re: [WESTALL] John Tarrant Westall > > Dorothy, > > Great info. It duck tails with everything I have found, > thank you. > > The 1841 info is somewhat puzzling as it does not seem to > fit? > > Bob >

This branch of the WESTALLs is quite fascinating. Amongst my 'miscellaneous' I have collected the following notes: John Tarrant WESTALL, Gent. formerly of Northbrook Street, Newbury. He had quite a history of business dealings countrywide in the UK and also in Australia with [brother?] William Francis Lovelock WESTALL, and was sued for bankruptcy. Dissolved their partnership in 1834 - Linen Drapers. They feature in great detail on-line in The London Gazette 1 June 1858 page 2748. Search: http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/AdvancedSearch.aspx?geotype=London IGI entries for baptism of both as sons of Willm WESTALL/Anna Maria appear 04 May 1810 at St Mary Whitechapel, Stepney, London: WFL born 1802, JTW born 1807. There are some interesting entries in the Newbury St Nicolas baptisms for children of JTW/Mary Amy Emma: John Thomas Hawkins - born 1832 bur 1838 - son of John Tarrant WESTALL Brighton Sussex Gent Mary Emma Newman (PB) 1835 - dau of JTW Newbury Gent Thomas John Hawkins - born 31 May 1842 - son of ditto Naomi - born 1843 - dau of JTW Newbury Gent/Mary Emma Amy [sic]ditto But the 1841 Census at Northbrook St reveals: Thos John HAWKINS 25 Indept Mrs HAWKINS 65 do. [Widow crossed through] Mary WESTALL 25 Indept Amy WESTALL 6 Elizth BRUNSDEN 15 F.S.

Dorothy, Great info. It duck tails with everything I have found, thank you. The 1841 info is somewhat puzzling as it does not seem to fit? Bob -----Original Message----- From: westall-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:westall-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dorothy Jones Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 9:30 PM To: westall@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WESTALL] John Tarrant Westalls This branch of the WESTALLs is quite fascinating. Amongst my 'miscellaneous' I have collected the following notes: John Tarrant WESTALL, Gent. formerly of Northbrook Street, Newbury. He had quite a history of business dealings countrywide in the UK and also in Australia with [brother?] William Francis Lovelock WESTALL, and was sued for bankruptcy. Dissolved their partnership in 1834 - Linen Drapers. They feature in great detail on-line in The London Gazette 1 June 1858 page 2748. Search: http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/AdvancedSearch.aspx?geotype=London IGI entries for baptism of both as sons of Willm WESTALL/Anna Maria appear 04 May 1810 at St Mary Whitechapel, Stepney, London: WFL born 1802, JTW born 1807. There are some interesting entries in the Newbury St Nicolas baptisms for children of JTW/Mary Amy Emma: John Thomas Hawkins - born 1832 bur 1838 - son of John Tarrant WESTALL Brighton Sussex Gent Mary Emma Newman (PB) 1835 - dau of JTW Newbury Gent Thomas John Hawkins - born 31 May 1842 - son of ditto Naomi - born 1843 - dau of JTW Newbury Gent/Mary Emma Amy [sic]ditto But the 1841 Census at Northbrook St reveals: Thos John HAWKINS 25 Indept Mrs HAWKINS 65 do. [Widow crossed through] Mary WESTALL 25 Indept Amy WESTALL 6 Elizth BRUNSDEN 15 F.S.

Richard, As always a very good question. In the 1851 UK Census I found John Tarrant Westall b 1808 Whitechapel, London. Living with john was his mother Anna Maria, and she showed as Married not a widow. I will look further for other possible matches. Bob 1851 England Census Name: John Sarrant Westall Age: 43 Estimated birth year: abt 1808 Relation: Head Mother's Name: Ann Maria Gender: Male Where born: Whitechapel Mal Civil parish: Brading Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street Address: 9 Esthern Village Occupation: Gentleman Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Isle Of Wight Sub-registration district: Ryde ED, institution, or vessel: 4g Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 9 John Sarrant Westall Head..M..43..Gentleman..Whitechapel, London Mary Emma Westall Dau..S...16..At Home......Berkshire, Newbury Thomas John Westall Son...S....9..At Home......Berkshire, Newbury Naomi Westall Dau..S.....7..At Home......Berkshire, Newbury Ann Maria Westall Mother..M..65..Lady...........Somerset, Ratclifler Mary Edwards Governess..S..40..Governess..St. George, Middlesex Lydia Farmer Servant.Wd.39..Servant.......Berkshire, Winterbourne Maria Young Visitor..S..44..Bonnet Maker..Hampshire, Brading From: richard westall [mailto:richardjwestall@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 3:45 PM To: bobatbmw@cox.net Subject: Westalls Bob I was contacted a short time ago about a William Westall from Clifton, Bristol whose wife was Anna Maria. Either he or she was born in 1786. They had three children John Tarrant, William Frances Lovelock and Eliza Wells. I was told they were born in Whitechapel, London in 1807, 1810 and 1817 respectively. However IGI shows that William Frances was the first born on 14 Dec 1802, being baptised on 4May 1810; John Tarrant was born 16 Dec 1807 and baptised also on 4 May 1810. The record for Elizabeth Wells is that she was baptised on 28 Dec 1823, although she may well have been born in 1817. If 1786 is the correct date of birth I should think it must be Anna Maria - 16 is a possible age for her first child and it seems less likely that William was 16 at that time. It may be that 1786 is a baptism date but birth was earlier. I could find no record for a William Westall born in Bristol in 1786 or thereabouts. My enquirer wanted to know if her William Westall was related to my ancestor William. I thought not but I know you have extensive knowledge which may assist. Also I am gathering information on William Bury Westall and would be happy to pass on what I knopw. Richard

Dorothy, Thank you as I would think that Jack Claude Westall is not our WW II casualty. Bob -----Original Message----- From: westall-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:westall-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dorothy Jones Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:17 PM To: westall@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WESTALL] UK, Army Roll of Honour, 1939-1945 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Westall" <bobatbmw@cox.net> To: <westall@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 2:24 AM Subject: [WESTALL] UK, Army Roll of Honour, 1939-1945 'Snipped' > Fred, here is another Jack Westall but born in Hampshire. > He would have > been age 46 in 1944 but he might still fit? What do you > think about this > Jack?! > > England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 > about Jack Claude Westall > Name: Jack Claude Westall > Year of Registration: 1898 > Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec > District: Kingsclere (1837-1932) > County: Hampshire > Volume: 2c > Page: 239 Hi Bob This is my Uncle Jack. He served in WW1 in the Tank Corps but I'm not sure if he also served in WW2, as I've only recently established contact with his granddaughter His death was recorded in December Quarter 1980. Dorothy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Westall" <bobatbmw@cox.net> To: <westall@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 2:24 AM Subject: [WESTALL] UK, Army Roll of Honour, 1939-1945 'Snipped' > Fred, here is another Jack Westall but born in Hampshire. > He would have > been age 46 in 1944 but he might still fit? What do you > think about this > Jack?! > > England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 > about Jack Claude Westall > Name: Jack Claude Westall > Year of Registration: 1898 > Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec > District: Kingsclere (1837-1932) > County: Hampshire > Volume: 2c > Page: 239 Hi Bob This is my Uncle Jack. He served in WW1 in the Tank Corps but I'm not sure if he also served in WW2, as I've only recently established contact with his granddaughter His death was recorded in December Quarter 1980. Dorothy

Hi Bob, I think that Jack Westall may have been my 1st cousin, once removed. According to the Commonwealth War Graves Commission Jack was 30 when he died on 15/9/1944. He was in the 5th Bn, Hampshire Regiment, service no. 4031734. Jack Westall was born sep qtr 1914 in Cardiff, Glamorgan. It's a puzzle why he was in the Hampshire Regiment as this is an English Regiment and Glamorgan is in Wales. For information, his parents were Ernest Richard Westall (b.15 May 1886, Portskewett Mon) and Florence May Webb (b. 17 Mar 1896, Barry Glamorgan), who were my grand uncle and aunt. We Shall Remember Them. Fred

Fred, Thank you for the info. The Free BMD shows three Jack Westall born in the UK from 1900 to about 1930. None of them in Hampshire? They were 1. Births Sep 1911 WESTALL Jack Rochdale 8e 10 mother's maiden name Ellett. The district Rochdale spans the boundaries of the counties of Greater Manchester and Lancashire 2. Births Sep 1914 Westall Jack Cardiff 11a 1099 Mother's maiden name Webb! Your Jack! The district Cardiff spans the boundaries of the counties of Glamorgan and Monmouthshire 3. Births Dec 1920 Westall Jack Tendring 4a 1465 Mother's maiden name Gilders The district Tendring is in the county of Essex Fred, here is another Jack Westall but born in Hampshire. He would have been age 46 in 1944 but he might still fit? What do you think about this Jack?! England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Jack Claude Westall Name: Jack Claude Westall Year of Registration: 1898 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Kingsclere (1837-1932) County: Hampshire Volume: 2c Page: 239 Bob -----Original Message----- From: westall-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:westall-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of FredW Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 6:17 PM To: westall@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WESTALL] UK, Army Roll of Honour, 1939-1945 Hi Bob, I think that Jack Westall may have been my 1st cousin, once removed. According to the Commonwealth War Graves Commission Jack was 30 when he died on 15/9/1944. He was in the 5th Bn, Hampshire Regiment, service no. 4031734. Jack Westall was born sep qtr 1914 in Cardiff, Glamorgan. It's a puzzle why he was in the Hampshire Regiment as this is an English Regiment and Glamorgan is in Wales. For information, his parents were Ernest Richard Westall (b.15 May 1886, Portskewett Mon) and Florence May Webb (b. 17 Mar 1896, Barry Glamorgan), who were my grand uncle and aunt. We Shall Remember Them. Fred

Can anyone recognize any of these Westall family members that were Killed in WW II, UK, Army Roll of Honour, 1939-1945? Bob UK, Army Roll of Honour, 1939-1945 Name: Gordon G E Westall Rank: Corporal Death Date: 21 Oct 1940 Number: 6296165 Birth Place: Reading Residence: Reading Branch at Enlistment: Infantry Theatre of War: United Kingdom Regiment at Death: Buffs (Royal East Kent Regiment) Branch at Death: Infantry Name: Arthur A J Westall Rank: Fusilier Death Date: 5 Oct 1943 Number: 6527997 Birth Place: London SE Residence: London (Not Otherwise Specified) Regiment at Enlistment: Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment) Branch at Enlistment: Infantry Theatre of War: North Africa Regiment at Death: Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment) Branch at Death: Infantry Name: Jack J Westall Rank: Private Death Date: 15 Sep 1944 Number: 4031734 Birth Place: Glamorgan Residence: Glamorgan Regiment at Enlistment: King's Shropshire Light Infantry Branch at Enlistment: Infantry Theatre of War: Italy Regiment at Death: Hampshire Regiment Branch at Death: Infantry Name: Leslie L Westall Rank: Lance Serjeant Death Date: 19 Sep 1944 Number: 2579000 Birth Place: Burnley Residence: London SW Regiment at Enlistment: Royal Corps of Signals Branch at Enlistment: Royal Corps of Signals Theatre of War: Western Europe Campaign, 1944/45 Regiment at Death: Royal Corps of Signals Branch at Death: Royal Corps of Signals Name: Yates Y Westall Rank: Signalman Death Date: Jul 1945 Number: 14252991 Birth Place: Yorkshire Residence: Yorkshire Branch at Enlistment: Royal Corps of Signals Theatre of War: Ceylon Regiment at Death: Royal Corps of Signals Branch at Death: Royal Corps of Signals

Can anyone recognize any of these Westall family members that were UK, British Army Prisoners of War, 1939-1945? It appears that three of them were Generals? Bob UK, British Army Prisoners of War, 1939-1945 Name: A. Westall Rank: General Army Number: 1457788 Regiment: Royal Artillery POW Number: 36064 Camp Type: Stalag Camp Number: 357 Camp Location: Oerbke, Lower Saxony, Germany Record Office: Royal Artillery (Light Anti-Aircraft) Record Office, Ibex House, The Minories, London, EC3 Record Office Number: 6 Name: E. C. Westall Rank: General Army Number: 4131172 Regiment: Royal Artillery POW Number: 39750 Camp Type: Stalag Camp Number: 317 Camp Location: Sankt Johann Im Pongau, Austria Record Office: Royal Artillery (Light Anti-Aircraft) Record Office, Ibex House, The Minories, London, EC3 Record Office Number: 6 Name: J. J. Westall Rank: Corporal Army Number: 13009794 Regiment: Pioneer Corps POW Number: 2377 Camp Type: Stalag Camp Number: XX-A Camp Location: Torun, Poland Record Office: Pioneer Corps, Non-Combatant Corps and Intelligence Corps Record Office, The Dunholme Manor, Bournemouth Record Office Number: 37 Name: P. Westall Rank: Private Army Number: 14377481 Regiment: Queen's Royal Regiment POW Number: 87017 Camp Type: Stalag Camp Number: VIII-C Camp Location: Konin Zaganski, Poland Record Office: Infantry and Army Physical Training Corps Record Office, Stanwell Road School, Ashford, Middlesex Record Office Number: Name: R. W. Westall Rank: General Army Number: 861653 Regiment: Royal Artillery POW Number: 253571 Camp Type: Stalag Camp Number: IV-A Camp Location: Hohenstein, Hesse, Germany Record Office: Royal Artillery (Field) Record Office, Foots Cray, Sidcup, Kent Record Office Number: 5 Name: T. Westall Rank: Corporal Army Number: 2927154 Regiment: Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders POW Number: 127619 Camp Type: Oflag Camp Number: VII-B Camp Location: Eichstätt, Bavaria, Germany Record Office: Infantry Record Office, Perth Record Office Number: 16

Hi folks Does anyone lay claim to this branch? In 1861 they surface in Bedwelty, Tredegar: James aged 32 claiming birthplace Gloucester and wife Catherine born Ireland. In 1871 they're found in Merthyr Tydfil: James aged 40 then claiming born Berkshire 'NK'. In 1881 they're still in Merthyr: James aged 54 then claiming born Berkshire Abingdon. In 1891 they're still in Merthyr: James aged 65 [or 68?] born England. There appears a possible marriage 2Q 1859 at Abergavenny for James WESTALL It appears that James' death was recorded in 2Q 1894 Merthyr Tydfil aged 69. I need to eliminate this James so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that someone might know his parentage? Dorothy

Hi folks I'm getting down to basics - trying to establish when/how/where the Reading bunch were hatched/matched/despatched in the hope it might throw up some hitherto unresearched anomalies. I think this chap might hold the key to unravelling a mystery and I wonder if anyone has encountered any records pertaining to him? Known facts: 26 Apr 1815 John WESTALL married Charlotte BRUNSDON both otp at Newbury St Nicolas by licence 22 May 1815 recorded aged 25 and 18 respectively at Quarrington's Yard, East Side Mary Hill, Newbury in Toomer's Census c1820 Son William born Newbury 10 Feb 1824 Wife Charlotte buried Newbury followed 12 Apr 1824 by son James aged 3 mos 23 Oct 1826 John re-married Sarah WYATT by licence at Reading Had further issue baptized Reading, and some infant mortalities 1841 Kennet Side - All supposedly born in County unless otherwise stated John WESTALL 51 Beer Seller Sarah 30 Not born in County William 21 Bargeman John 12 Edwin 8 [bap Aurelius Edwin] Charles 1 Charlotte 18 FS Not born in County [possibly Charlotte HOLLOWAY/HALLAWAY, William's prospective bride] John senior is variously described in Reading St Giles Baptismal Register: 1828 of Gas Wharf, Clerk to Barge Masters 1831 of Gas Wharf, Agent 1834 of Blake's Pound, Barge Agent 1841 of Kennet Side, Victualler John senior was buried 14 June 1842 aged 53 of Kennet Side ***BUT*** there is no local death registration for him! The only likely GRO registration is June Quarter 1842 Bethnal Green [unless anyone knows any different?]. I have this newspaper account extracted from The Times of December 27, 1841, concerning a likely child of the family: A fatal accident to a little boy would have occurred on Wednesday night, but for the intrepidity of a labouring man named Clarke : the child, a son of J. Westall, late of the Fisherman's Cottage, was walking on the towing-path of the Kennet, near the King's-bridge, and fell into the stream, which is now both deep and strong. Clarke, who happened to be near, heard a faint cry of distress, and by the reflection from the gaslamp could just discern something dark upon the water ; he immediately jumped in, and succeeded in seizing the child's pinafore, as it was sinking, and endeavoured to reach the bank again, but was washed 30 or 40 yards down the stream before he succeeded, and was at length dragged up the side by a person who came to assist him ; he was much exhausted, but kept a firm hold of the child, which he was thus the means of saving. We much wish that there was some local institution to award a recompense to acts of this kind, where an individual risks his life to save that of another. Clarke's circumstances are at the present time very humble, and we shall feel much pleasure in receiving, at the office, any small contributions which may enable him to partake of the abundance of good things which those in affluence so universally partake of at this festive season._ Reading paper. Was the Kennet & Avon Canal responsible for bringing this branch to Reading? There doesn't seem to have been much of a presence prior to this batch. Dorothy

Dorothy, Thank you that was a very informative post! Bob -----Original Message----- From: westall-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:westall-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dorothy Jones Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 5:37 AM To: westall@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WESTALL] Henry Westall 'Snipped' > Right now I would give a lot to know if Devizes is in the > Hungerford > District. Any thoughts out there? > Bob On the FreeBMD website if you click on the link to the Hungerford District part of the reference for Henry WESTALL's birth, it will take you to a page explaining its cross-boundaries location [Berkshire, Hampshire & Wiltshire] and shows a further link 'here' which will take you to the detailed list of Townships and Civil Parishes within the District. In the case of Hungerford District it does not list Devizes, which has a district of its own. In order to see similar details for Devizes I tried an exercise to find any WESTALL born between Sep 1837 - 1907 and got a nil return! I tried again with the HISCOCK surname, for which know there are loads, and was amazed at the size of the list of Townships or Civil Parishes due to transfers from Pewsey District in 1936. I often use this system to illustrate why District Register Offices would find it too time-consuming to search for marriage certificates if the actual parish/church/chapel is unknown. Dorothy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.13560 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.13560 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

'Snipped' > Right now I would give a lot to know if Devizes is in the > Hungerford > District. Any thoughts out there? > Bob On the FreeBMD website if you click on the link to the Hungerford District part of the reference for Henry WESTALL's birth, it will take you to a page explaining its cross-boundaries location [Berkshire, Hampshire & Wiltshire] and shows a further link 'here' which will take you to the detailed list of Townships and Civil Parishes within the District. In the case of Hungerford District it does not list Devizes, which has a district of its own. In order to see similar details for Devizes I tried an exercise to find any WESTALL born between Sep 1837 - 1907 and got a nil return! I tried again with the HISCOCK surname, for which know there are loads, and was amazed at the size of the list of Townships or Civil Parishes due to transfers from Pewsey District in 1936. I often use this system to illustrate why District Register Offices would find it too time-consuming to search for marriage certificates if the actual parish/church/chapel is unknown. Dorothy

Bob, There is no child Emma born to John and Elizabeth.. Can you tell me why you think this , please ? The Emma WESTALL born c 1872, I have, was the daughter of Henry WESTALL and wife Eliza [nee PIKE] and she married William LANE 29 Oct 1892, Ramsbury. Beryl In a message dated 10/25/2009 10:49:52 A.M. Central Daylight Time, bobatbmw@cox.net writes: Beryl, I come up with two more daughters for John Westall and Elizabeth nee Vockins besides the oneS you mentioned. I have included the 1851 census through 1891 census for your revues. These Census show an Elizabeth Bet. Jul - Sep 1846; a Mary Bef. 02 Jul 1848 and I believe. There is a possibly an Emma Westall b Bet. Apr - Jun 1872? Bob 1851 England Census Name: John Westall Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Ham, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Ramsbury County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: 50 Axford Occupation: Agri Labourer Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Hungerford Sub registration district: Kintbury ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 50 John Westall Head..M..32..Agri Labourer..Wilts, Ham Elizabeth Westall Wife..M..27..........................Wilts, Ramsbury Eliza Westall Dau...S....5...........................Wilts, Mildenhall Mary Westall Dau...S...3...........................Wilts, Ramsbury Sarah Westall Dau...S...5 Mo........................Wilts, Ramsbury ################################ 1861 England Census Name: John Westall Age: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Axford, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Ramsbury County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: 42 Lab Cottage Occupation: Field Laborer Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Hungerford Sub registration district: Hungerford ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 42 John Westall Head..M..43..Field Laborer..Axford, Wilts Elizabeth Westall Wife..M..37.........................Ramsbury, Wilts Eliza Westall Dau..S..14..Field Laborer..Mildenhall, Wilts Mary Westall Dau..S..12..Field Laborer..Axford, Wilts Sarah Westall Dau..S..10..Field Laborer..Axford, Wilts Jane Westall Dau..S....5.........................Axford, Wilts Anne Westall Dau..S....3.........................Axford, Wilts ############################## 1871 England Census Name: John Westall Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Ham, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Ramsbury Town: Axford County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: 46 Axford Occupation: Carter Ag Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Hungerford Sub registration district: Hungerford ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 46 John Westall Head..M..50..Carter Ag..Wilts, Ham Elizabeth Westall Wife..M..47....................Wilts, Ramsbury Mary Westall Dau...S..22..Ag Lab......Wilts, Axford Elizabeth Westall Dau...S...8..Scholar......Wilts, Axford William Westall Son...S...6..Scholar......Wilts, Axford Henry Westall Son...S...4.....................Wilts, Axford Emma Westall Dau...S...3 months.........Wilts, Axford John Palmer Lodger..M..22..Carter.........Wilts, Cadley Sarah Palmer Lodger..M..20..Ag Lab.......Wilts, Axford Ann Westall Visitor...S....2 ....................Wilts, Axford ############################### 1881 England Census Name: John Westall Age: 63 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizth. Gender: Male Where born: Ham, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Ramsbury County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Carter Registration district: Hungerford Sub registration district: Hungerford ED, institution, or vessel: 17 John Westall Head..M..63..Carter...Wilts, Ham Elizth. Westall Wife..M..57...........Wilts, Ramsbury Elizth. Westall Dau...S..18..Ag Lab...Wilts, Axford Henry Westall Son...S..14..Ag Lab...Wilts, Axford ############################## 1891 England Census Name: John Westall Age: 73 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Hamburg, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Ramsbury Ecclesiastical parish: Ramsbury Town: Axford County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street address: 68 Stone Lane Occupation: General Laborer Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Hungerford Sub registration district: Hungerford ED, institution, or vessel: 16 John Westall Head..M..73..General Laborer..Ham, Wilts Elizabeth Westall Wife..M..65...............................Ramsbury, Wilts William Westall Son..S...26..General Laborer...Axford, Wilts ############################## Taken from Free BMD Deaths Mar 1892 (>99%) WESTALL John 74 Hungerford 2c 261 ############################## -----Original Message----- From: westall-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:westall-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bdm2918@aol.com Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:14 AM To: westall@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WESTALL] Henry William Westall b 1867 Devozes, Wiltshire It is Devizes and it is not too far away from Axford, BUT I do not think this is the right Henry WESTALL. Also I do not think that Hamberg is right. The children of John WESTALL and Elizabeth nee VOCKINS were Sarah, 1850, William 1852, Jane 1855, Anne 1857, Thomas 1859, Elizabeth 1862, William 1864 and Henry about 1867. I have the family in 1861, 1881 and 1891 census. Hope this helps. Beryl Metherell virus/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.13550 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bob, I did say that I was very tired yesterday, but take this, please...more info, which is/was already on my PC... I was, of course, looking through my Mildenhall Parish Registers late last evening and have been adding bits to some other families as well. ANY TIME, I can send these files, with little or no problem, Beryl In a message dated 10/25/2009 10:49:52 A.M. Central Daylight Time, bobatbmw@cox.net writes: Beryl, I come up with two more daughters for John Westall and Elizabeth nee Vockins besides the oneS you mentioned. I have included the 1851 census through 1891 census for your revues. These Census show an Elizabeth Bet. Jul - Sep 1846; a Mary Bef. 02 Jul 1848 and I believe. There is a possibly an Emma Westall b Bet. Apr - Jun 1872? Bob 1851 England Census Name: John Westall Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Ham, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Ramsbury County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: 50 Axford Occupation: Agri Labourer Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Hungerford Sub registration district: Kintbury ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 50 John Westall Head..M..32..Agri Labourer..Wilts, Ham Elizabeth Westall Wife..M..27..........................Wilts, Ramsbury Eliza Westall Dau...S....5...........................Wilts, Mildenhall Mary Westall Dau...S...3...........................Wilts, Ramsbury Sarah Westall Dau...S...5 Mo........................Wilts, Ramsbury ################################ 1861 England Census Name: John Westall Age: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Axford, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Ramsbury County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: 42 Lab Cottage Occupation: Field Laborer Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Hungerford Sub registration district: Hungerford ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 42 John Westall Head..M..43..Field Laborer..Axford, Wilts Elizabeth Westall Wife..M..37.........................Ramsbury, Wilts Eliza Westall Dau..S..14..Field Laborer..Mildenhall, Wilts Mary Westall Dau..S..12..Field Laborer..Axford, Wilts Sarah Westall Dau..S..10..Field Laborer..Axford, Wilts Jane Westall Dau..S....5.........................Axford, Wilts Anne Westall Dau..S....3.........................Axford, Wilts ############################## 1871 England Census Name: John Westall Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Ham, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Ramsbury Town: Axford County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: 46 Axford Occupation: Carter Ag Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Hungerford Sub registration district: Hungerford ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 46 John Westall Head..M..50..Carter Ag..Wilts, Ham Elizabeth Westall Wife..M..47....................Wilts, Ramsbury Mary Westall Dau...S..22..Ag Lab......Wilts, Axford Elizabeth Westall Dau...S...8..Scholar......Wilts, Axford William Westall Son...S...6..Scholar......Wilts, Axford Henry Westall Son...S...4.....................Wilts, Axford Emma Westall Dau...S...3 months.........Wilts, Axford John Palmer Lodger..M..22..Carter.........Wilts, Cadley Sarah Palmer Lodger..M..20..Ag Lab.......Wilts, Axford Ann Westall Visitor...S....2 ....................Wilts, Axford ############################### 1881 England Census Name: John Westall Age: 63 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizth. Gender: Male Where born: Ham, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Ramsbury County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Carter Registration district: Hungerford Sub registration district: Hungerford ED, institution, or vessel: 17 John Westall Head..M..63..Carter...Wilts, Ham Elizth. Westall Wife..M..57...........Wilts, Ramsbury Elizth. Westall Dau...S..18..Ag Lab...Wilts, Axford Henry Westall Son...S..14..Ag Lab...Wilts, Axford ############################## 1891 England Census Name: John Westall Age: 73 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Hamburg, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Ramsbury Ecclesiastical parish: Ramsbury Town: Axford County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street address: 68 Stone Lane Occupation: General Laborer Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Hungerford Sub registration district: Hungerford ED, institution, or vessel: 16 John Westall Head..M..73..General Laborer..Ham, Wilts Elizabeth Westall Wife..M..65...............................Ramsbury, Wilts William Westall Son..S...26..General Laborer...Axford, Wilts ############################## Taken from Free BMD Deaths Mar 1892 (>99%) WESTALL John 74 Hungerford 2c 261 ############################## -----Original Message----- From: westall-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:westall-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bdm2918@aol.com Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:14 AM To: westall@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WESTALL] Henry William Westall b 1867 Devozes, Wiltshire It is Devizes and it is not too far away from Axford, BUT I do not think this is the right Henry WESTALL. Also I do not think that Hamberg is right. The children of John WESTALL and Elizabeth nee VOCKINS were Sarah, 1850, William 1852, Jane 1855, Anne 1857, Thomas 1859, Elizabeth 1862, William 1864 and Henry about 1867. I have the family in 1861, 1881 and 1891 census. Hope this helps. Beryl Metherell virus/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.13550 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WESTALL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message