Thank you all for your suggestions. The Ancestry image has D9/6 at its foot, so this is what I've tried to find. I've tried all sorts of variations including the WDP or WD prefix, and the CALM catalogue only seems to respond to a request for WDP9 - which as Sharon says is All Saints Dewsbury. WDP9/6 is a subsection of a composite register (baptisms, marriages and burials together) but only begins in 1753 and runs up to 1774. This makes it probable that my Squire Jaggar baptism in 1760 occurred in Dewsbury. Drat! Not where I wanted him! But it doesn't explain the beginnings of the "St Hilda's" record set for 1538. Nick's suggestion that it probably means Halifax St John's is the most likely answer but it would be nice to know. I shall be visiting Wakefield in February if all goes well, maybe I should ask them while I'm there. You wonder if the name of St Hilda was pulled out of a hat!! (or a wimple). Thanks again. Maggie -----Original Message----- From: Pontefract FHS <pontefhs@btinternet.com> To: west-riding <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 12:11 Subject: Re: [WRY] St Hilda's Church, Halifax, 1538 Try Dewsbury, I have found some of my ancestors listed by Ancestry in the West Yorkshire records as married 1702 St Hilda Halifax when I know the actual church was All Saints Dewsbury which is WPD9 as per the WYAS guide. Halifax St Hilda is WDP201 and according to the archives catalogue the records in their collection do not start until 1903 Sharon Buchanan vicechair@pontefractfhs.org.uk www.pontefractfhs.org.uk -------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick Taylor" <familyhistory@cnrt.co.uk> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 11:17 AM To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [WRY] St Hilda's Church, Halifax, 1538 > Further to Andy's reply the Archives guide says that WDP53 St John the > Baptist records run from 1538 to 1977 (Baptisms) so this is the obvious > suspect. A check as Andy describes should prove it. Some entries are > duplicated so try to find the same entry on via the St John link and you > may > end up on the same page. I have had the same problem but assumed St John > the Baptist without really checking which of course I should have done. > > Nick > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Micklethwaite > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:56 AM > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WRY] St Hilda's Church, Halifax, 1538 > > At 09:30 11/01/2012, Maggie wrote: >>Ancestry have this church listed with entries starting in 1538. The only >>St >>Hilda-s I can find in Genuki were built several hundred years later. Does >>anyone know what the Ancestry index really refers to? I have a Squire >>Jaggar baptism recorded there about 1755, but can't give credence to it >>without a church location. > > Hi Maggie > > At the bottom of the image there should be a reference number, like D21 - > if > there isn't, go to the next image until you find one. > > Then type that number into the CALM catalogue at WYAS prefixed by WDP - or > sometimes WD - you might have to play around a bit unless any other lister > can come up with a bullet proof method. > http://catalogue.wyjs.org.uk/Overview.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog > > That way you should be able to find out the real church. > > HTH Andy. > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Maggie St Hilda's was a 100 years old last year, my partner and I attended the celebrations.  So compared to some churches in Halifax it is quite modern. Elaine ________________________________ From: "maggiemole@aol.com" <maggiemole@aol.com> To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 11 January 2012, 20:45 Subject: Re: [WRY] St Hilda's Church, Halifax, 1538 Thank you all for your suggestions. The Ancestry image has D9/6 at its foot, so this is what I've tried to find. I've tried all sorts of variations including the WDP or WD prefix, and the CALM catalogue only seems to respond to a request for WDP9 - which as Sharon says is All Saints Dewsbury. WDP9/6 is a subsection of a composite register (baptisms, marriages and burials together) but only begins in 1753 and runs up to 1774. This makes it probable that my Squire Jaggar baptism in 1760 occurred in Dewsbury. Drat! Not where I wanted him! But it doesn't explain the beginnings of the "St Hilda's" record set for 1538. Nick's suggestion that it probably means Halifax St John's is the most likely answer but it would be nice to know. I shall be visiting Wakefield in February if all goes well, maybe I should ask them while I'm there. You wonder if the name of St Hilda was pulled out of a hat!! (or a wimple). Thanks again. Maggie -----Original Message----- From: Pontefract FHS <pontefhs@btinternet.com> To: west-riding <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 12:11 Subject: Re: [WRY] St Hilda's Church, Halifax, 1538 Try Dewsbury, I have found some of my ancestors listed by Ancestry in the West Yorkshire records as married 1702 St Hilda Halifax when I know the actual church was All Saints Dewsbury which is WPD9 as per the WYAS guide. Halifax St Hilda is WDP201 and according to the archives catalogue the records in their collection do not start until 1903 Sharon Buchanan vicechair@pontefractfhs.org.uk www.pontefractfhs.org.uk -------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick Taylor" <familyhistory@cnrt.co.uk> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 11:17 AM To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [WRY] St Hilda's Church, Halifax, 1538 > Further to Andy's reply the Archives guide says that WDP53 St John the > Baptist records run from 1538 to 1977 (Baptisms) so this is the obvious > suspect.  A check as Andy describes should prove it.  Some entries are > duplicated so try to find the same entry on via the St John link and you > may > end up on the same page.  I have had the same problem but assumed St John > the Baptist without really checking which of course I should have done. > > Nick > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Micklethwaite > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:56 AM > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WRY] St Hilda's Church, Halifax, 1538 > > At 09:30 11/01/2012, Maggie wrote: >>Ancestry have this church listed with entries starting in 1538. The only >>St >>Hilda-s I can find in Genuki were built several hundred years later. Does >>anyone know what the Ancestry index really refers to? I have a Squire >>Jaggar baptism recorded there about 1755, but can't give credence to it >>without a church location. > > Hi Maggie > > At the bottom of the image there should be a reference number, like D21 - > if > there isn't, go to the next image until you find one. > > Then type that number into the CALM catalogue at WYAS prefixed by WDP - or > sometimes WD - you might have to play around a bit unless any other lister > can come up with a bullet proof method. > http://catalogue.wyjs.org.uk/Overview.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog > > That way you should be able to find out the real church. > > HTH Andy. > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi The answer is quite simple, Ancestry have made a major cock up when indexing these records. This is just one example of many churches they have mixed up. If you go back through this mailing lists archives from June when the WYAS records went live you will find loads of messages about churches being wrongly indexed. The St Hilda set starting at 1538 is not St Hilda Halifax it is All Saints Dewsbury EG. Kippax St Mary records were indexed as Hunset Moor, Castleford All Saints indexed as Wakefield, very early18thC  Castleford All Saints records indexed as Castleford St John which did not open until 1913. Sharon Buchanan vicechair@pontefractfhs.org.uk www.pontefractfhs.org.uk --- On Wed, 11/1/12, maggiemole@aol.com <maggiemole@aol.com> wrote: From: maggiemole@aol.com <maggiemole@aol.com> Subject: Re: [WRY] St Hilda's Church, Halifax, 1538 To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, 11 January, 2012, 20:45 Thank you all for your suggestions. The Ancestry image has D9/6 at its foot, so this is what I've tried to find. I've tried all sorts of variations including the WDP or WD prefix, and the CALM catalogue only seems to respond to a request for WDP9 - which as Sharon says is All Saints Dewsbury. WDP9/6 is a subsection of a composite register (baptisms, marriages and burials together) but only begins in 1753 and runs up to 1774. This makes it probable that my Squire Jaggar baptism in 1760 occurred in Dewsbury. Drat! Not where I wanted him! But it doesn't explain the beginnings of the "St Hilda's" record set for 1538. Nick's suggestion that it probably means Halifax St John's is the most likely answer but it would be nice to know. I shall be visiting Wakefield in February if all goes well, maybe I should ask them while I'm there. You wonder if the name of St Hilda was pulled out of a hat!! (or a wimple). Thanks again. Maggie -----Original Message----- From: Pontefract FHS <pontefhs@btinternet.com> To: west-riding <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 12:11 Subject: Re: [WRY] St Hilda's Church, Halifax, 1538 Try Dewsbury, I have found some of my ancestors listed by Ancestry in the West Yorkshire records as married 1702 St Hilda Halifax when I know the actual church was All Saints Dewsbury which is WPD9 as per the WYAS guide. Halifax St Hilda is WDP201 and according to the archives catalogue the records in their collection do not start until 1903 Sharon Buchanan vicechair@pontefractfhs.org.uk www.pontefractfhs.org.uk -------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick Taylor" <familyhistory@cnrt.co.uk> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 11:17 AM To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [WRY] St Hilda's Church, Halifax, 1538 > Further to Andy's reply the Archives guide says that WDP53 St John the > Baptist records run from 1538 to 1977 (Baptisms) so this is the obvious > suspect.   A check as Andy describes should prove it.   Some entries are > duplicated so try to find the same entry on via the St John link and you > may > end up on the same page.   I have had the same problem but assumed St John > the Baptist without really checking which of course I should have done. > > Nick > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Micklethwaite > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:56 AM > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WRY] St Hilda's Church, Halifax, 1538 > > At 09:30 11/01/2012, Maggie wrote: >>Ancestry have this church listed with entries starting in 1538. The only >>St >>Hilda-s I can find in Genuki were built several hundred years later. Does >>anyone know what the Ancestry index really refers to? I have a Squire >>Jaggar baptism recorded there about 1755, but can't give credence to it >>without a church location. > > Hi Maggie > > At the bottom of the image there should be a reference number, like D21 - > if > there isn't, go to the next image until you find one. > > Then type that number into the CALM catalogue at WYAS prefixed by WDP - or > sometimes WD - you might have to play around a bit unless any other lister > can come up with a bullet proof method. > http://catalogue.wyjs.org.uk/Overview.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog > > That way you should be able to find out the real church. > > HTH Andy. > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It states 1538 because All Saints records also start at 1538. The date ranges seem to correct where the church name is wrong so do offer a clue. I had a quick look through the catalogue and I think the only other records held at Wakefield from 1538 are those of Wragby as well as Halifax. If the collection reference isn't on the bottom of the fiche then the dates do give a hint in this case Halifax, Wragby or Dewsbury. But in this case you have that reference too. D9/6 is the 6th fiche (or film) of the D9 series of fiches which represent the original document collection held at Wakefield (WDP9). My catalogue says that WDP9 covers Dewsbury All Saints, Dewsbury St James and St Philip, Mission. So as others have said its certainly Dewsbury All Saints. Nick -----Original Message----- From: maggiemole@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:45 PM To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WRY] St Hilda's Church, Halifax, 1538 Thank you all for your suggestions. The Ancestry image has D9/6 at its foot, so this is what I've tried to find. I've tried all sorts of variations including the WDP or WD prefix, and the CALM catalogue only seems to respond to a request for WDP9 - which as Sharon says is All Saints Dewsbury. WDP9/6 is a subsection of a composite register (baptisms, marriages and burials together) but only begins in 1753 and runs up to 1774. This makes it probable that my Squire Jaggar baptism in 1760 occurred in Dewsbury. Drat! Not where I wanted him! But it doesn't explain the beginnings of the "St Hilda's" record set for 1538. Nick's suggestion that it probably means Halifax St John's is the most likely answer but it would be nice to know. I shall be visiting Wakefield in February if all goes well, maybe I should ask them while I'm there. You wonder if the name of St Hilda was pulled out of a hat!! (or a wimple). Thanks again. Maggie -----Original Message----- From: Pontefract FHS <pontefhs@btinternet.com> To: west-riding <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 12:11 Subject: Re: [WRY] St Hilda's Church, Halifax, 1538 Try Dewsbury, I have found some of my ancestors listed by Ancestry in the West Yorkshire records as married 1702 St Hilda Halifax when I know the actual church was All Saints Dewsbury which is WPD9 as per the WYAS guide. Halifax St Hilda is WDP201 and according to the archives catalogue the records in their collection do not start until 1903 Sharon Buchanan vicechair@pontefractfhs.org.uk www.pontefractfhs.org.uk -------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick Taylor" <familyhistory@cnrt.co.uk> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 11:17 AM To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [WRY] St Hilda's Church, Halifax, 1538 > Further to Andy's reply the Archives guide says that WDP53 St John the > Baptist records run from 1538 to 1977 (Baptisms) so this is the obvious > suspect. A check as Andy describes should prove it. Some entries are > duplicated so try to find the same entry on via the St John link and you > may > end up on the same page. I have had the same problem but assumed St John > the Baptist without really checking which of course I should have done. > > Nick > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Micklethwaite > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:56 AM > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WRY] St Hilda's Church, Halifax, 1538 > > At 09:30 11/01/2012, Maggie wrote: >>Ancestry have this church listed with entries starting in 1538. The only >>St >>Hilda-s I can find in Genuki were built several hundred years later. Does >>anyone know what the Ancestry index really refers to? I have a Squire >>Jaggar baptism recorded there about 1755, but can't give credence to it >>without a church location. > > Hi Maggie > > At the bottom of the image there should be a reference number, like D21 - > if > there isn't, go to the next image until you find one. > > Then type that number into the CALM catalogue at WYAS prefixed by WDP - or > sometimes WD - you might have to play around a bit unless any other lister > can come up with a bullet proof method. > http://catalogue.wyjs.org.uk/Overview.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog > > That way you should be able to find out the real church. > > HTH Andy. > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message