Dear listers, I am trying to obtain my 2x great uncles marriage cert mainly because i have photo and a letter written by him so he seems closer to me than some of my direct ancestors. I have had an issue. I know he is William Hargreaves born Sowerby Bridge 1872 approx, his parents are Richard born Crompton, Lancashire, and Ann Scott, born Lancashire. I know Williams wife was Sarah Annie, but the family knew her as Annie. the 1901 Wednesbury and 1911 census show annie as born Tedbury Herefordshire. The 1911 shows they have been married 11 years so approx 1899, the only entry that matched was for Wortley West Riding for a Sarah Annie Smith. I presumed this was Leeds so applied and they told me they located the entry and the father was not Richard they put it was for e.g william? so is that an eg or were they giving me a hint. then the letter said that i should try Sheffield. On Free BMD it says Wortley became part of Sheffield in 1974, so that has nothing to do with 1899. I dont understand what the registry office are saying, are they saying there is an entry for sheffield and it must be mine and they couldnt find one for Leeds Wortley when they said they had? Im really confused what Wortley in Sheffield has to do with my family, it is hard enough trying to understand how it could even be Leeds Wortley when my family were from Sowerby Bridge and Manchester area. Is anyone able to run a search for me and tell me what they think? There is only one entry that matches either that or William who was definatelly william was not william. And is anyone able to find a birth for William approx 1872 Sowerby Bridge parents Richard and Ann Scott. I thought it would be easy with Parish records on Ancestry but i can not find anything. Kind regards Louise Wortley On 11 Feb 2012, at 20:34, west-riding-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Who Do You Think You Are? Yorkshire! (JANICE WOOD) > 2. Re: [YORKSGEN] Who Do You Think You Are? Yorkshire! > (roy.stockdill@btinternet.com) > 3. WRY PRs. on Ancestry & the Surname HIRST Badsworth, Owston & > Campsall. (Jenny De Angelis) > 4. Re: WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 19 (Keith Booth) > 5. Re: Booth Family of Glasshoughton (Pontefract FHS) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 10:47:53 +0000 (GMT) > From: JANICE WOOD <janwood50@btinternet.com> > Subject: [WRY] Who Do You Think You Are? Yorkshire! > To: "west-riding@rootsweb.com" <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <1328957273.14057.YahooMailNeo@web87208.mail.ird.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hello all, > ? > Who Do You Think You Are? Live is billed as the biggest family history event in the world! It is happening at Olympia, London, Friday 24th to Sunday 26th February.? http://www.whodoyouthinkyouarelive.com?Yorkshire will be very well represented there - > ? > In the Yorkshire Corner will be: > ? > The London Group of Yorkshire Family History Societies. > They?have publications for sale and information from all the societies in Yorkshire, and several experts on hand to help with your enquiries. More details on > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/FHS/ ? Wharfedale Family History Group > For details please see http://www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk/ > ? > Ryedale Family History Group > For details please see http://www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org/ > ? > Yorkshire Ancestors > For details please see http://www.yorkshireancestors.com & http://www.yorkshireancestors.co.uk > ? > For all other exhibitors, please see http://www.whodoyouthinkyouarelive.com/about-show/our-exhibitors > Ancestry, Findmypast, familysearch, Family Tree DNA, and much, much more - whereever your ancestors are from, there is lots here for you to see.? See also the latest edition of Who Do You Think You Are? Magazine, which includes a show guide. > ? > Lots of celebrities are expected to attend - details are on the show's website. Our own Jackie Depelle and Roy Stockdill will be there each day - come and meet them! Jackie will be presenting a workshop "Researching Your Yorkshire Ancestors" at 12 oclock on Saturday 25th. > ? > Tickets for the show bought in advance are 15 pounds each, or buy tickets at the door at 22 pounds each. > ? > (I have a limited number of tickets to give away!!! Reply to this email if you would like one). > ? > We would also appreciate some help at any of the above mentioned stands - you don't need to be an expert, but help to direct people to someone who can assist them would be much appreciated. If you can help, even for an hour or two, you will get a free ticket! > ? > Hope to see you there!? If you are there, please stop and say hello! > ? > Janice Wood > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 11:51:50 -0000 > From: roy.stockdill@btinternet.com > Subject: Re: [WRY] [YORKSGEN] Who Do You Think You Are? Yorkshire! > To: <yorksgen@rootsweb.com> > Cc: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4F365656.11307.2FD3B3@roy.stockdill.btinternet.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > From: "JANICE WOOD" <janwood50@btinternet.com> > >> Hello all, >> >> Who Do You Think You Are? Live is billed as the biggest family >> history event in the world! It is happening at Olympia, London, >> Friday 24th to Sunday 26th February. >> http://www.whodoyouthinkyouarelive.com Yorkshire will be very well >> represented there - >> >> In the Yorkshire Corner will be: >> >> The London Group of Yorkshire Family History Societies. >> They have publications for sale and information from all the >> societies in Yorkshire, and several experts on hand to help with >> your enquiries. More details on >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/FHS/ >> >> Wharfedale Family History Group >> For details please see http://www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk/ >> >> Ryedale Family History Group >> For details please see http://www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org/ >> >> Yorkshire Ancestors >> For details please see http://www.yorkshireancestors.com & >> http://www.yorkshireancestors.co.uk >> >> For all other exhibitors, please see >> http://www.whodoyouthinkyouarelive.com/about-show/our-exhibitors >> Ancestry, Findmypast, familysearch, Family Tree DNA, and much, much >> more - whereever your ancestors are from, there is lots here for you >> to see. See also the latest edition of Who Do You Think You Are? >> Magazine, which includes a show guide. >> >> Lots of celebrities are expected to attend - details are on the >> show's website. Our own Jackie Depelle and Roy Stockdill will be >> there each day - come and meet them! Jackie will be presenting a >> workshop "Researching Your Yorkshire Ancestors" at 12 oclock on >> Saturday 25th. >> >> Tickets for the show bought in advance are 15 pounds each, or buy >> tickets at the door at 22 pounds each. >> >> (I have a limited number of tickets to give away!!! Reply to this >> email if you would like one). >> >> We would also appreciate some help at any of the above mentioned >> stands - you don't need to be an expert, but help to direct people >> to someone who can assist them would be much appreciated. If you can >> help, even for an hour or two, you will get a free ticket! >> >> Hope to see you there! If you are there, please stop and say >> hello! >> >> Janice Wood >> ..... >> Ancestors in Yorkshire? >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html; >> www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org; www.wharfedalefhg.org.uk; >> www.yorkshireparishregisters.com; www.yorkshireroots.org.uk; > > > Further to Janice's message above, Jackie and I will be on the London Group stand as well > as touring the hall, networking (as I believe it's called). You should easily recognise us, as I > have no doubt Jackie will be wearing one of her fabulous hats and I am planning to wear a > rather gawdy striped blazer with a dark blue Yorkshire tie! We will have some ties for sale on > the stand, if anyone wants to buy one, BTW. > > We have given our joint presentation for the last few years in the SoG's Regional Workshop > but this year Jackie will be leading with her presentation of online resources for Yorkshire, > which is what most people seem to want to know about these days. I will follow up with a > presentation on Yorkshire record offices, local studies libraries and museums, etc, and will > have a handout to give away. > > If you are planning to be at Olympia, then do drop by the stand. > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:54:18 +0100 > From: "Jenny De Angelis" <jennyda2@gmail.com> > Subject: [WRY] WRY PRs. on Ancestry & the Surname HIRST Badsworth, > Owston & Campsall. > To: "WRY" <WEST-RIDING-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <270FC440CC3B4216AB99858E9168CDF6@jennysasus> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I am researching the surname HIRST in the Owston & Campsall areas of the WRY > and have made contact with one or two people who share the same family of > Hirst with me. One of these contacts I know has their later Hirsts at > Badsworth where the father isRichard Hirst occ. Butcher and the mother is > Elizabeth. > > Another, more recently found, contact told me today that he had found the > baptisms on the familysearch site for a couple of children of Richard and > Elizabeth at Badsworth, but which I found turned out to be patron > submissions. But I went to the ancestry site and the WRY PRs there for > 1512-1812. I searched for Hirst with the above parents names and up came > daughter Mary baptised in Dec. 1771 and son John baptised in 1774 but noted > by Ancestry as having taken place at Nether Thong All saints. > > Looking at the bottom of "View Record" page for these entries where it gives > information on where the details were taken from give a West Yorks Archives > Service ref. as Old Ref. D 19/4 New Ref. WD19/4 > > Going to the WYAS site and searching for Badsworth parish register I found > that the ref. given there was WD19/1-4 . A search of the WYAS for > Netherthong parish registers brings up a result where the PRs for All Saints > Netherthong date only from 1815 and the ref. if WDP18. The PRs for st. > Andrews Netherthong date from 1878 with ref. WDP 245. > > According to Wikipeadia All Saints church Netherthong was not built until > 1829-30, > > Ancestry it would appear have put the marriages Badsworth correctly under > Badsworth but the baptisms, and possibly the burials too I haven't checked > those, are under Nether Thong. > > I have e.mailed Ancestry to tell them of this apparent error and await their > response. > But I thought others might find the above useful to know if they are looking > for entries in the Badsworth PRs, it pays to check the information at the > bottom of the View Record page that goes with each entry on Ancestry and > look at the relevant CRO ref. number given there. > > Regards > Jenny DeAngelis > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:06:03 +1300 > From: "Keith Booth" <kbcad@xtra.co.nz> > Subject: Re: [WRY] WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 19 > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <3D7E356792C0443996ADD4B23DC711F1@D6HD3S1S> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Thanks to Maureen - I checked out the Castleford Burials as recommended. Not > only did I find Fanny Booth, (died 1907) but also her husband John William > Booth, who pre-deceased her by 6 years, (died 1901) and a (previously > unknown to me) infant son, Jim, who died one week after his father. As > proof, they are all buried in the same grave. > There seemed to be a lot of infants dying Aug-Sep 1901 - was there a 'flu > epidemic around Cas at the time? > Regards, Keith Booth, New Zealand. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <west-riding-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 9:01 PM > Subject: WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 19 > > >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. query re Ayrtons (ANN DAVIS) >> 2. Booth Family of Glasshoughton (Keith Booth) >> 3. Re: Booth Family of Glasshoughton (Maureenpontefhs) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:02:08 +0000 (GMT) >> From: ANN DAVIS <a.p.davis@btinternet.com> >> Subject: [WRY] query re Ayrtons >> To: "west-riding@rootsweb.com" <west-riding@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: >> <1328875328.92689.YahooMailNeo@web87202.mail.ird.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> Thank you to Kathy who gave me two addresses in Halifax and Mike who gave >> me a lot of leads. >> >> >> Ann Davis >> Reading >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:17:11 +1300 >> From: "Keith Booth" <kbcad@xtra.co.nz> >> Subject: [WRY] Booth Family of Glasshoughton >> To: <WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <18A2CC1249BD4A9F95F182D1CA70A9D4@D6HD3S1S> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Researching the family of John William Booth (1865-1901?) of >> Glasshoughton. John W. was my great grand uncle. >> He married Fanny Taylor (1864-??) in Dec. 1887, Pontefract District, and >> they had two sons, John (1888-??) and William (Willie) >> (1892-??). >> In the 1901 Census the family were living at Rock Hill, Glasshoughton. >> John W. was a Colliery Byworker, aged 35. >> Fanny was aged 37, John 12 and Willie 8. >> In the 1911 Census I can find no trace of John W. or Fanny. I believe >> John, aged 22, was in the Navy, an Able Seaman stationed >> at Devonport. Willie, aged 18, was living with his grandmother, Mary >> Hopwood, (previously Booth, nee Burn) and his step grandfather, Eli >> Hopwood, in Glasshoughton. Willie was employed as a Coal miner above >> ground. >> >> Oh, for a 1921 Census!!!! >> >> I have a John William Booth dying in 1901 Pontefract District and I >> believe this to be my John W. (Mine accident??) >> >> Would like to know what happened to Fanny (I presume she re-married, as >> she was left with a 12 and an 8 year old), and the boys. >> >> There is an old Family story that a Captain John Booth came down from >> Scotland in the 1920's to visit my grandfather in Pontefract. >> This may have been the John Booth who was in the Navy in 1911? >> >> All help much appreciated. >> >> Keith Booth, New Zealand. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:41:34 -0500 (EST) >> From: Maureenpontefhs <maureenpontefhs@aol.com> >> Subject: Re: [WRY] Booth Family of Glasshoughton >> To: west-riding@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <8CEB67DCDE01CE5-1474-19FF@webmail-m161.sysops.aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> hello Keith, >> >> >> you could try the Wakefield area Cemetery/Crematorium website: >> >> >> I found what looks like your Fanny >> >> >> http://www.wakefield.gov.uk/CommunityAndLiving/BereavementServices/GenealogySearches/BurialRegisterspre1986/default.htm?forenames=fanny&surname=taylor&match=exact&action=search >> >> >> good luck, you may like to check other names on here, such a very useful >> site >> >> >> best wishes, >> Maureen >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Keith Booth <kbcad@xtra.co.nz> >> To: WEST-RIDING <WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 1:17 >> Subject: [WRY] Booth Family of Glasshoughton >> >> >> Researching the family of John William Booth (1865-1901?) of >> Glasshoughton. John >> W. was my great grand uncle. >> He married Fanny Taylor (1864-??) in Dec. 1887, Pontefract District, and >> they >> had two sons, John (1888-??) and William (Willie) >> (1892-??). >> In the 1901 Census the family were living at Rock Hill, Glasshoughton. >> John W. >> was a Colliery Byworker, aged 35. >> Fanny was aged 37, John 12 and Willie 8. >> In the 1911 Census I can find no trace of John W. or Fanny. I believe >> John, aged >> 22, was in the Navy, an Able Seaman stationed >> at Devonport. Willie, aged 18, was living with his grandmother, Mary >> Hopwood, >> (previously Booth, nee Burn) and his step grandfather, Eli Hopwood, in >> Glasshoughton. Willie was employed as a Coal miner above ground. >> >> Oh, for a 1921 Census!!!! >> >> I have a John William Booth dying in 1901 Pontefract District and I >> believe this >> to be my John W. (Mine accident??) >> >> Would like to know what happened to Fanny (I presume she re-married, as >> she was >> left with a 12 and an 8 year old), and the boys. >> >> There is an old Family story that a Captain John Booth came down from >> Scotland >> in the 1920's to visit my grandfather in Pontefract. >> This may have been the John Booth who was in the Navy in 1911? >> >> All help much appreciated. >> >> Keith Booth, New Zealand. >> >> Some useful websites - >> FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ >> FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ >> >> Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >> of >> the message >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the WEST-RIDING list administrator, send an email to >> WEST-RIDING-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the WEST-RIDING mailing list, send an email to >> WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body >> of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 19 >> ****************************************** > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:34:23 -0000 > From: "Pontefract FHS" <pontefhs@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [WRY] Booth Family of Glasshoughton > To: <WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <6B0B62E3296048E6AD71C95856B4C4A0@SharonTOSH> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > HI Keith > Images sent off list the burial register for both burials. > > Fanny BOOTH died just a few years after John William in 1907 and was buried > in the same grave in Castleford Cemetery. > > Sharon Buchanan > vicechair@pontefractfhs.org.uk > > www.pontefractfhs.org.uk > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Keith Booth" <kbcad@xtra.co.nz> > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:17 AM > To: <WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [WRY] Booth Family of Glasshoughton > >> Researching the family of John William Booth (1865-1901?) of >> Glasshoughton. John W. was my great grand uncle. >> He married Fanny Taylor (1864-??) in Dec. 1887, Pontefract District, and >> they had two sons, John (1888-??) and William (Willie) >> (1892-??). >> In the 1901 Census the family were living at Rock Hill, Glasshoughton. >> John W. was a Colliery Byworker, aged 35. >> Fanny was aged 37, John 12 and Willie 8. >> In the 1911 Census I can find no trace of John W. or Fanny. I believe >> John, aged 22, was in the Navy, an Able Seaman stationed >> at Devonport. Willie, aged 18, was living with his grandmother, Mary >> Hopwood, (previously Booth, nee Burn) and his step grandfather, Eli >> Hopwood, in Glasshoughton. Willie was employed as a Coal miner above >> ground. >> >> Oh, for a 1921 Census!!!! >> >> I have a John William Booth dying in 1901 Pontefract District and I >> believe this to be my John W. (Mine accident??) >> >> Would like to know what happened to Fanny (I presume she re-married, as >> she was left with a 12 and an 8 year old), and the boys. >> >> There is an old Family story that a Captain John Booth came down from >> Scotland in the 1920's to visit my grandfather in Pontefract. >> This may have been the John Booth who was in the Navy in 1911? >> >> All help much appreciated. >> >> Keith Booth, New Zealand. >> >> Some useful websites - >> FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ >> FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ >> >> Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki >> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the WEST-RIDING list administrator, send an email to > WEST-RIDING-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the WEST-RIDING mailing list, send an email to WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 > ******************************************

Hi Louise William Born 1872 at WARLEY which is close to Sowerby near Halifax father Richard mother Ann both born in Lanc's This is from the 1881 census. can send you image of line. Bill Avoca Beach Nsw