Hi Louise Whilst Wortley is indeed a location in Leeds there is also a village of Wortley near Penistone that gave its name to a large Registration Districtincluding many townships in that locality. Genuki has the details of the townships that were part of that District at various times upto 1974. The link below will take you there. http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/wortley.html Whilst part of the traditional County of the West Riding of Yorkshire the locality is currently within the administrative area of South Yorkshire, which includes Sheffield and Barnsley. Free BMD includes marriages for William Hargreaves in both Leeds and Wortley in 1899 but only the Wortley one also includes a Sarah  Annie Smith on the same page. The Leeds entry includes a William Smith on the same page as William Hargreaves - a match that might have been rather frowned upon in those days! Ancestry may well have a copy of the marriage register page available if it took place in a Church of England establishment. This would give the parents names. Regards Roger Family History Research: GILL, BERRY, CHARLESWORTH, ROBINSON and many others in the Holme Valley, south of Huddersfield. http://www.roger.d.gill.btinternet.co.uk/index1gen.htm http://rogergill.me.uk > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 20:11:18 +0000 > From: Louise Wortley <qbangelcakes@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [WRY] WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <5AF377F4-E77B-4537-8658-E6D7BDF0DB34@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Dear listers, > > I am trying to obtain my 2x great uncles marriage cert mainly because i have > photo and a letter written by him so he seems closer to me than some of my > direct ancestors. > > I have had an issue. > > I know he is William Hargreaves born Sowerby Bridge 1872 approx, his parents are > Richard born Crompton, Lancashire, and Ann Scott, born Lancashire. I know > Williams wife was Sarah Annie, but the family knew her as Annie. the 1901 > Wednesbury and 1911 census show annie as born Tedbury Herefordshire. > > The 1911 shows they have been married 11 years so approx 1899, the only entry > that matched was for Wortley West Riding for a Sarah Annie Smith. I presumed > this was Leeds so applied and they told me they located the entry and the father > was not Richard they put it was for e.g william? so is that an eg or were they > giving me a hint. then the letter said that i should try Sheffield. > > On Free BMD it says Wortley became part of Sheffield in 1974, so that has > nothing to do with 1899. I dont understand what the registry office are saying, > are they saying there is an entry for sheffield and it must be mine and they > couldnt find one for Leeds Wortley when they said they had? > > Im really confused what Wortley in Sheffield has to do with my family, it is > hard enough trying to understand how it could even be Leeds Wortley when my > family were from Sowerby Bridge and Manchester area. > > Is anyone able to run a search for me and tell me what they think? There is only > one entry that matches either that or William who was definatelly william was > not william. And is anyone able to find a birth for William approx 1872 Sowerby > Bridge parents Richard and Ann Scott. > > I thought it would be easy with Parish records on Ancestry but i can not find > anything. > > Kind regards > > Louise Wortley

Hi Any marriage records that are held by Sheffield Archives will not be on Ancestry, although traditionally part of the West Riding they are not part of the West Yorkshire Archives Service who have put the records they hold on Ancestry. As far as I am aware Sheffield Archives have signed an agreement to put their records on Find My Past and not Ancestry. Sharon Buchanan vicechair@pontefractfhs.org.uk www.pontefractfhs.org.uk -------------------------------------------------- From: "Roger Gill" <roger.d.gill@btinternet.com> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 11:41 AM To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Subject: [WRY] Wortley > Hi Louise > > Whilst Wortley is indeed a location in Leeds there is also a village of > Wortley near Penistone that gave its name to a large Registration > Districtincluding many townships in that locality. > Genuki has the details of the townships that were part of that District at > various times upto 1974. > The link below will take you there. > > http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/wortley.html > > Whilst part of the traditional County of the West Riding of Yorkshire the > locality is currently within the administrative area of South Yorkshire, > which includes Sheffield and Barnsley. > > Free BMD includes marriages for William Hargreaves in both Leeds and > Wortley in 1899 but only the Wortley one also includes a Sarah Annie > Smith on the same page. The Leeds entry includes a William Smith on the > same page as William Hargreaves - a match that might have been rather > frowned upon in those days! > > > Ancestry may well have a copy of the marriage register page available if > it took place in a Church of England establishment. This would give the > parents names. > > > Regards > > > Roger > > Family History Research: GILL, BERRY, CHARLESWORTH, ROBINSON and many > others in the Holme Valley, south of Huddersfield. > > http://www.roger.d.gill.btinternet.co.uk/index1gen.htm > http://rogergill.me.uk > > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 20:11:18 +0000 >> From: Louise Wortley <qbangelcakes@aol.com> >> Subject: Re: [WRY] WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20 >> To: west-riding@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <5AF377F4-E77B-4537-8658-E6D7BDF0DB34@aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Dear listers, >> >> I am trying to obtain my 2x great uncles marriage cert mainly because i >> have >> photo and a letter written by him so he seems closer to me than some of >> my >> direct ancestors. >> >> I have had an issue. >> >> I know he is William Hargreaves born Sowerby Bridge 1872 approx, his >> parents are >> Richard born Crompton, Lancashire, and Ann Scott, born Lancashire. I know >> Williams wife was Sarah Annie, but the family knew her as Annie. the 1901 >> Wednesbury and 1911 census show annie as born Tedbury Herefordshire. >> >> The 1911 shows they have been married 11 years so approx 1899, the only >> entry >> that matched was for Wortley West Riding for a Sarah Annie Smith. I >> presumed >> this was Leeds so applied and they told me they located the entry and the >> father >> was not Richard they put it was for e.g william? so is that an eg or were >> they >> giving me a hint. then the letter said that i should try Sheffield. >> >> On Free BMD it says Wortley became part of Sheffield in 1974, so that has >> nothing to do with 1899. I dont understand what the registry office are >> saying, >> are they saying there is an entry for sheffield and it must be mine and >> they >> couldnt find one for Leeds Wortley when they said they had? >> >> Im really confused what Wortley in Sheffield has to do with my family, it >> is >> hard enough trying to understand how it could even be Leeds Wortley when >> my >> family were from Sowerby Bridge and Manchester area. >> >> Is anyone able to run a search for me and tell me what they think? There >> is only >> one entry that matches either that or William who was definatelly william >> was >> not william. And is anyone able to find a birth for William approx 1872 >> Sowerby >> Bridge parents Richard and Ann Scott. >> >> I thought it would be easy with Parish records on Ancestry but i can not >> find >> anything. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Louise Wortley > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message