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    1. Re: [WRY] WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20
    2. Jenny De Angelis
    3. Hi Louise If the Leeds registrars told you to ask Sheffield registrars then I doubt Leeds would know what is contained in the registers held by Sheffield but they mean that Sheffield is the office holding ancient registers for the old Wortley registration District. I found the marriage you mention at Wortley reg. district on FreeBMD and when you click on the word Wortley in that entry it takes you forward to details of that Registration District. It says that Registers are now held by Sheffield, Oldham, Barnsley & Huddersfield, nothing to do with Leeds at all. The ancient registers for the old Wortley reg. distrist are split between these 4 offices now, each holding certain of the original old registers but not all of them in each place, for each office to hold all of the old wortley register would not be possible, unless copies had been made for each office to hold, and I doubt that happened. No, it means that each of the 4 offices hold a section of the old Wortley registration district according to where each section of the old district lay. REgitration district boudaries are different to County or local Council boundaries. Registration District can cross the boundaries between counties too at times. Leeds would have told you to contact Sheffield reg. district office because Wortley became part of Sheffield in 1974 and no doubt Sheffield do hold the Wortley registers from way back, even though Sheffield didn't take over Wortley until 1974. Sheffield would have taken on the old registers from Wortley as part of that 1974 change over. As Wortley is a sub district of Sheffield these days then Sheffield is where you will be most likely to find that marriage register from 1899 held. I should go back to that 1899 marriage entry on freeBMD and then the page of details of the Wortley reg. district by clicking the link for Wortley in the entry as I have done. You will see that it tells you where the registers are now held, click on each registration district name in turn and make a note of their contact details so that you can contact each one in turn to enquire if they hold the marriage and if they will check it for you against the fathers name Richard Hargreaves. You will find that each district has an e.mail address and a website link. Start with Sheffield as you have been told to do by Leeds then try the others if that doesn't succeed. You have to remember that most couples marry in the Bride's parish, the parish she was either born in or the parish where she was living at the time of her marriage, never mind where the groom came from. William Hargreaves and his wife may have married somewhere in Herefordshire where she appears to have been born. Or it could be that she had moved from Herefordshire to another part of England, maybe Sarah Annie had moved to the Staffordshire area where they were living in 1901 at Wednesbury, perhaps William Hargreaves had gone there to work in between 1891 and his marriage around 1898/9. I checked on the Genuki site for the county of Herefordshire and looked for a place called Tedbury, there wasn't one listed. There is a Tetbury in Gloucestershire which is about an hours drive from Ledbury Herefordshire, crossing the Severn bridge on the way. The only place I can find that has a name similar to Tedbury in Herefordshire is Ledbury, I think this is more than likely the place name meant for Sarah Annie's birth place,if she was indeed born in Herefordshire. Have a look at the Genuki site at www.genuki.org.uk Select England and then the county as Herefordshire or Yorkshire according to what which county you want to know more about. On each county's main page you will find a link at the top to Towns and parishes, listed alphabetically. There is a place called Thornbury in Herefordshire that might be of interest, the writing in that 1901 census entry is difficult to read. Just look at the surname Hargreaves in the 1901 and how it is written it is a real mess, Sarah Annie's birthplace is not easy to make out, but my guess is it says Ledbury, or maybe Thornbury, Herefordshire On the main Genuki page for England you will find a link for Civil Registration where you will find lots of information on the subject. If you have found the couple in the 1911 census with children then it might be an idea to order a copy of one of the children's birth certificate to find out what their mother's maiden name was. A more expensive way of getting to the marriage certificate but it seems it might be the only way if you can't find the marriage any other way in the indexes. Regards Jenny DeAngelis <<I am trying to obtain my 2x great uncles marriage cert mainly because i have photo and a letter written by him so he seems closer to me than some of my direct ancestors. I have had an issue. I know he is William Hargreaves born Sowerby Bridge 1872 approx, his parents are Richard born Crompton, Lancashire, and Ann Scott, born Lancashire. I know Williams wife was Sarah Annie, but the family knew her as Annie. the 1901 Wednesbury and 1911 census show annie as born Tedbury Herefordshire. The 1911 shows they have been married 11 years so approx 1899, the only entry that matched was for Wortley West Riding for a Sarah Annie Smith. I presumed this was Leeds so applied and they told me they located the entry and the father was not Richard they put it was for e.g william? so is that an eg or were they giving me a hint. then the letter said that i should try Sheffield.<<

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