Thank you Roger. Yes, I had found the Henry in Wortley in 1841. In fact, thought it was my Henry until I found this other bit from Hepworth. All of the families being within pages of each other made me think differently. Another woman replied off list that she would go to the Library in Kirk Burton today (Monday Sept24) and look at the parish records. We'll see if she finds anything. If not, at least I know he came from Hepworth which our family always thought the Hinchliffes came from Sheffield. I've only been doing genealogy for about 15 months, starting with my mother's side. I have learned a lot and have become addicted! Again, thanks for all your help. Barbara ROGER GILL wrote: >Hi Barbara & list > > Thanks, I can see both families in the 1851 census at Hepworth and henry (snr) in the 1841. However the only henry aged 15 in the 1841 is in the District of Wortley (neighbouring Hepworth) but unfortunately relationships and place of birth are not shown in 1841 so it is not possible to be sure if this, or the 8 yrs old you mention, are your Henry. > > Since IGI does not include any references for the birth/baptism of Henry or any of his siblings it is possible that they were baptised in a nonconformist extablishment for which the records are not readily available. > > Sorry but all this does not even dint your brick wall. > > Cheers > > Roger > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:54:25 -0700 >From: Barbara Leveque >Subject: Re: [WRY] HENRY HINCHLIFFE, Hepworth >To: west-riding@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <46F6C471.5070504@earthlink.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Thank you Roger. I didn't see Hugh in the 1841 census. I found the >younger Henry listed as a Blacksmith App between a John Robinson, age >79, Blacksmith and a John Robinson, brn abt 1811, Blacksmith. I decided >to look at all of the pages. When I did that, I found Henry the elder. >The census source info: > >Henry the elder > > > >>Class:HO107; Piece 1277; Book:5; Civil Parish: Kirk Burton,; County: >>Yorkshire; Enumeration Dist: 8; Folio 12; page.16; Line: 15; GSU roll >>464246 >> >> > >Henry the younger, the same but page 8. > >I also found Job Hinchliffe on page 4, James Hinchliffe on page 17, and >Zacchens Hinchliffe on page 14. > >I decided that Henry the younger just might be Henry the elder's son if >his age was really 15, not 8. I thought the census taker may have made a >mistake on the age as the age of the Robinson boy listed the line above >was 8. > >Henry the younger married Martha Bradley in Lockwood on Nov. 19, 1848. >Both ages are listed as 22. His father is listed as Henry, farmer. I >have the certificate. In 1851 Henry and Martha are still in Hepworth >according to the census. Henry is listed as 25, Martha as 24. Henry's >occupation is blacksmith. > >The family emmigrated to the US in 1855, well, at least Martha and the >children. I found their passage on the New York Passenger Lists record, >arriving in New York on the ship City of Mobile, June 18, 1855. Of >course, the name was spelled wrong: Henchliffe but all of the family >members were correct. I have never found Henry's passage. In 1860 they >appear on the US census in Virginia, Cass, Illinois. Henry enlisted in >the Union Army in Feb. 1865 and was killed at Vicksburg, Mississippi in >Oct. 1865. I found the death record and the pension record naming Martha >as the widow. > >I really was hoping to find Henry's birth family and siblings as I think >he may have come to America with a relative. There are other Hinchliffes >in Illinois and they slowly moved west, first to Kansas, then to >Washington State. > >This is probably more info than you wanted! Henry's parents and >siblings have been a brick wall for a while! > >Thanks for all your help! > >Cheers! > >Barbara > > >ROGER GILL wrote: > > > >>Hi Barbara & List >> >>The Huddersfield & District FHS index of baptisms at Kirkburton do not contain any baptisms matching the names and dates you quote. >>There is one entry for Henry (son of James Hinchliffe and Sarah Wortley) on 21 July 1782. This also appears on the IGI. >> >>There is no entry for a Henry around 1826. >> >>Looking at the H&D FHS index for both the 1841 and 51 Census, there are 3 Henry Hinchliffes mentioned in each. However the 8 year old App blacksmith is in the same household as Hugh Hinchliffe in 1841. In 1851 he is still there and shown as the 18 yr old son of Hugh. >> >>I wonder if you have the correct family? Perhaps you might say how you arrived at this conclusion and we may be able to help more. >> >>Cheers >> >>Roger >> >>Researching GILL, BERRY, CHARLESWORTH & ROBINSON south of Huddersfield. >>Message: 2 >>Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:12:36 -0700 >>From: Barbara Leveque >>Subject: [WRY] Where to find Parish Records for Hepworth >>To: WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com >>Message-ID: <46F56924.1080909@earthlink.net> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed >> >>Hello! >>I am rather new to the parish record search process. I am trying to >>determine which microfiche/film to order for Parish Records for >>Hepworth, 1750 - 1860. When I search the Family History Library, >>Hepworth shows records from 1863 - 1985. Would the records I need be in >>Kirk Burton parish? There are 11 films listed for Kirk Burton. At US$6 >>per film, I don't want to order the wrong one! >> >>I am searching HINCHLIFFE, specifically Henry born abt 1786 and his son >>Henry, born abt 1826. >> >>A second question if you are still reading: Would an 8 year old boy be >>apprenticed to a blacksmith? I think I found son Henry in the 1841 >>census but the age was 8 rather than 15. I do know that the census often >>has mistakes around age. >> >>Thanks for any help offered! >> >>Barbara >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> > > >------------------------------ > >To contact the WEST-RIDING list administrator, send an email to >WEST-RIDING-admin@rootsweb.com. > >To post a message to the WEST-RIDING mailing list, send an email to WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com. > >__________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com >with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >email with no additional text. > > >End of WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 2, Issue 311 >****************************************** > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >