Mine were married in Slaidburn, although the children were baptised in Tosside. Researching Turner and Wolfenden Suigetsu Turner >From: west-riding-request@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: west-riding@rootsweb.com >To: west-riding@rootsweb.com >Subject: WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 2, Issue 333 >Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 06:21:48 -0600 > > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Where is "Houghton By Settle"? (Lyn Wolf) > 2. Re: Where is "Houghton By Settle"? (Jean Greenwood) > 3. Re: Where is "Houghton By Settle"? (Roy Stockdill) > 4. Fw: Graham Norton BBC WDYTYA (Annabelle Sutton) > 5. Re: Where is "Houghton By Settle"? (Lyn Wolf) > 6. Re: Graham Norton BBC WDYTYA (MBTraining@aol.com) > 7. Re: Fw: Graham Norton BBC WDYTYA (Roy Stockdill) > 8. Re: Where is "Houghton By Settle"? (Jean Greenwood) > 9. Re: Where is "Houghton By Settle"? (Roy Stockdill) > 10. Re: Fw: Graham Norton BBC WDYTYA (Roy Stockdill) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 18:59:58 +1000 >From: "Lyn Wolf" <lawolf@dodo.com.au> >Subject: [WRY] Where is "Houghton By Settle"? >To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <007e01c80d77$6ed8cb30$0201010a@wolf0mhla59djn> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > >Hi > >Can anyone tell me exactly where Houghton By Settle is? It is mentioned >on the IGI at www.familysearch.org . Is it the name of a parish, or part of >another parish? > >Researching COOK, LEAK(E), & WATSON in the Giggleswick area, >before 1830. > >Regards > >Lyn Wolf >Australia > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 10:32:34 +0100 >From: "Jean Greenwood" <jean.greenwood2@ntlworld.com> >Subject: Re: [WRY] Where is "Houghton By Settle"? >To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <000001c80d7b$fdde4540$04d66651@homek2z6eqg2dp> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > >Lyn > >See >http://www.thornber.net/famhist/htmlfiles/holden.html > and number 4 > >Regards >jean > >Hi > >Can anyone tell me exactly where Houghton By Settle is? It is mentioned >on the IGI at www.familysearch.org . Is it the name of a parish, or part >of >another parish? > >Researching COOK, LEAK(E), & WATSON in the Giggleswick area, >before 1830. > >Regards > >Lyn Wolf >Australia > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 3 >Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 10:32:56 +0100 >From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> >Subject: Re: [WRY] Where is "Houghton By Settle"? >To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <47109ED8.6400.363BAA@localhost> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > >From: "Lyn Wolf" <lawolf@dodo.com.au> > > > Can anyone tell me exactly where Houghton By Settle is? It is > > mentioned on the IGI at www.familysearch.org . Is it the name of a > > parish, or part of another parish?> > >As ever, use GOOGLE! It is simplicity itself to find where Houghton by >Settle is just by entering it into the search engine. A number of websites >appear and there is a full description of the place at this one..... > >http://www.thornber.net/famhist/htmlfiles/houghton.html > >-- >Roy Stockdill >Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies >Guild of One-Name Studies website: www.one-name.org >Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: >www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > >"There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, >and that is not being talked about." >OSCAR WILDE > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 11:19:09 +0100 >From: "Annabelle Sutton" <annabelle@sutton86.fsnet.co.uk> >Subject: [WRY] Fw: Graham Norton BBC WDYTYA >To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <001f01c80d82$7fc0caf0$23e84254@sn023663120002> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > >Roy said, > > > Oh, really, Marylou! How long have you been on this and other Yorkshire > > mailing lists??? > > > > You know perfectly well that the first thing I always say to queries >like > > yours from newcomers is LOOK AT GOOGLE! But you are not a > > newcomer. A moment's homework with Google would have told you that > > Graham Norton is a very famous TV presenter in the UK and he is also > > openly homosexual. His ancestry is Irish. > > > > I am rather surprised at your query, since you of all people know > > perfectly > > well how to use Google. Just find his entry at Wikopedia. > >Roy, >what a very rude man you are.!! > >Who do you think you are, to tell people what they should, or should not do >on this list.? I thought that was the admins job. > >In the time it took you to reply to Marylou, YOU could,and obviously >did,GOOGLE for web pages.Why did you not give them to her.THAT would have >been less rude, and , more in keeping, with a helpful list. > >As far as I am concerned, Marylou was just following a line of discussion.I >find nothing wrong with that.!! > >Here are a couple of webpage's for Marylou to look at. > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Norton > >http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/familyhistory/get_started/wdytya_s4_celeb_gallery_06.shtml > >regards from, >Annabelle. > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 5 >Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:24:10 +1000 >From: "Lyn Wolf" <lawolf@dodo.com.au> >Subject: Re: [WRY] Where is "Houghton By Settle"? >To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <00fd01c80d83$31a51b40$0201010a@wolf0mhla59djn> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > >Thankyou Roy and Jean for the information. As there are no marriages >mentioned >for the chapel, where would they most likely have occurred? >regards >Lyn > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> >To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 7:32 PM >Subject: Re: [WRY] Where is "Houghton By Settle"? > > > > From: "Lyn Wolf" <lawolf@dodo.com.au> > > > >> Can anyone tell me exactly where Houghton By Settle is? It is > >> mentioned on the IGI at www.familysearch.org . Is it the name of a > >> parish, or part of another parish?> > > > > As ever, use GOOGLE! It is simplicity itself to find where Houghton by > > Settle is just by entering it into the search engine. A number of >websites > > appear and there is a full description of the place at this one..... > > > > http://www.thornber.net/famhist/htmlfiles/houghton.html > > > > -- > > Roy Stockdill > > Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies > > Guild of One-Name Studies website: www.one-name.org > > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: > > www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > > and that is not being talked about." > > OSCAR WILDE > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 6 >Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 06:42:48 EDT >From: MBTraining@aol.com >Subject: Re: [WRY] Graham Norton BBC WDYTYA >To: west-riding@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <ce6.1d06aa5f.3441fb28@aol.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >I am one of Roy Stockdill's strongest critics and from the list - and >references to him which I found on GOOGLE - I continually get the >impression of his >being an arrogant, self-satisfied bigot who knows all and does not suffer >fools gladly. > >However, I do acknowledge his attitude in this instance which is another >take on the Chinese (?) proverb about > >Give a man a fish; and you feed him for today. Teach a man to fish; and >you >feed him for a lifetime > >Regards > >Malcolm Bull > > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 7 >Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 11:49:21 +0100 >From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> >Subject: Re: [WRY] Fw: Graham Norton BBC WDYTYA >To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <4710B0C1.31727.7C31A3@localhost> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > >From: "Annabelle Sutton" <annabelle@sutton86.fsnet.co.uk> > > > Roy said, > > > > > Oh, really, Marylou! How long have you been on this and other > > > Yorkshire mailing lists??? > > > > > > You know perfectly well that the first thing I always say to queries > > > like yours from newcomers is LOOK AT GOOGLE! But you are not a > > > newcomer. A moment's homework with Google would have told you that > > > Graham Norton is a very famous TV presenter in the UK and he is also > > > openly homosexual. His ancestry is Irish. > > > > > > I am rather surprised at your query, since you of all people know > > > perfectly well how to use Google. Just find his entry at Wikopedia. > > > > Roy, > > what a very rude man you are.!! > > > > Who do you think you are, to tell people what they should, or should > > not do on this list.? I thought that was the admins job. > > > > In the time it took you to reply to Marylou, YOU could,and obviously > > did,GOOGLE for web pages.Why did you not give them to her.THAT would > > have been less rude, and , more in keeping, with a helpful list. > > > > As far as I am concerned, Marylou was just following a line of > > discussion.I find nothing wrong with that.!!> > >In fact, Marylou and I have exchanged numerous messages over the >years we have both been on mailing lists. As far as I am concerned, she >is as experienced as I am in these matters and my comments were >tongue in cheek.I doubt she took them personally! > >-- >Roy Stockdill >Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies >Guild of One-Name Studies website: www.one-name.org >Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: >www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > >"There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, >and that is not being talked about." >OSCAR WILDE > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 8 >Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 11:54:03 +0100 >From: "Jean Greenwood" <jean.greenwood2@ntlworld.com> >Subject: Re: [WRY] Where is "Houghton By Settle"? >To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <000001c80d87$5f661210$04d66651@homek2z6eqg2dp> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >As Houghton is a chapel of ease for Gisburn would suggest Gisburn and >the IGI has both Cooke and Watson marr. > >Do you know of the Hugh Wallis site >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers.htm# >PageTitle >from which you can go straight to the batch numbers for the place you >want. > >Jean > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 9 >Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 12:08:23 +0100 >From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> >Subject: Re: [WRY] Where is "Houghton By Settle"? >To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <4710B537.21017.8D9DC8@localhost> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > >From: "Lyn Wolf" <lawolf@dodo.com.au> > > > Thankyou Roy and Jean for the information. As there are no marriages > > mentioned for the chapel, where would they most likely have occurred? > > regards Lyn> > >Probably St Mary's, Gisburn, since Houghton (or Tosside) Chapel was >originally a chapel of ease to St Mary's. This is explained on the website >to which I drew your attention. > >Apparently the chapel is one of those deeply unfortunate places which, >thanks to the machinations of the idiot Whitehall bureaucrats in 1974, >used to be in Yorkshire and is now in Lancashire! > >-- >Roy Stockdill >Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies >Guild of One-Name Studies website: www.one-name.org >Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: >www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > >"There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, >and that is not being talked about." >OSCAR WILDE > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 10 >Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 12:21:19 +0100 >From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> >Subject: Re: [WRY] Fw: Graham Norton BBC WDYTYA >To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <4710B83F.30175.997576@localhost> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >Malcolm Bull's message and quotation of an old Chinese proverb >summed up my attitude to look-ups and na?ve queries rather well. In fact, >I have often quoted the same proverb myself. > >My view - and I will not change it - is quite simply this: at the end of >the >day you help a person far, far more by telling them HOW to do something >for themselves and NOT by doing it for them! To use an analogy, it's like >the schoolchild who cribs the exam answers from the kid at the next >desk. He may pass the exam but he won't have learned a damned thing. > >Yes, I could easily have told Marylou who Graham Norton is but I directed >her towards Google, which will tell you in an instant exactly who any >famous person is, where they were born, what they do, etc. I wouldn't ask >on a US list for details of somebody who is apparently famous in America >but not in Britain. I would go straight to Google and look it up, knowing >it >would be there. > >Likewise, a great many questions asked here about Yorkshire genealogy >by newcomers can be solved very quickly by going to the Yorkshire >pages of GENUKI. This is an absolutely fantastic resource and should be >visited by all with Yorkshire interests on a regular basis. One of the most >important pages is "Where is it in Yorkshire?" which will give you the >location and parish of just about anywhere in the county you care to >name. The appropriate URL is..... > >http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html > >Now, it is my considered view that by bringing this brilliant website to >the >attention of those newcomers who weren't aware of it I have actually >taught them far more, and done them far more good, than by answering >endless questions about where-is-so-and-so-in Yorkshire! > >I trust folks get my point? > >-- >Roy Stockdill >Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies >Guild of One-Name Studies website: www.one-name.org >Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: >www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > >"There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, >and that is not being talked about." >OSCAR WILDE > > > > > > >------------------------------ > >To contact the WEST-RIDING list administrator, send an email to >WEST-RIDING-admin@rootsweb.com. > >To post a message to the WEST-RIDING mailing list, send an email to >WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com. > >__________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com >with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body >of the >email with no additional text. > > >End of WEST-RIDING Digest, Vol 2, Issue 333 >*******************************************