Malcolm Bull's message and quotation of an old Chinese proverb summed up my attitude to look-ups and naïve queries rather well. In fact, I have often quoted the same proverb myself. My view - and I will not change it - is quite simply this: at the end of the day you help a person far, far more by telling them HOW to do something for themselves and NOT by doing it for them! To use an analogy, it's like the schoolchild who cribs the exam answers from the kid at the next desk. He may pass the exam but he won't have learned a damned thing. Yes, I could easily have told Marylou who Graham Norton is but I directed her towards Google, which will tell you in an instant exactly who any famous person is, where they were born, what they do, etc. I wouldn't ask on a US list for details of somebody who is apparently famous in America but not in Britain. I would go straight to Google and look it up, knowing it would be there. Likewise, a great many questions asked here about Yorkshire genealogy by newcomers can be solved very quickly by going to the Yorkshire pages of GENUKI. This is an absolutely fantastic resource and should be visited by all with Yorkshire interests on a regular basis. One of the most important pages is "Where is it in Yorkshire?" which will give you the location and parish of just about anywhere in the county you care to name. The appropriate URL is..... http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html Now, it is my considered view that by bringing this brilliant website to the attention of those newcomers who weren't aware of it I have actually taught them far more, and done them far more good, than by answering endless questions about where-is-so-and-so-in Yorkshire! I trust folks get my point? -- Roy Stockdill Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies Guild of One-Name Studies website: www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE