Oh dear......how many times do I have to repeat myself? I'd check the list archives to see, but to be honest, I can't be bothered For the very last time - If you don't like what another subscriber has to say, contact them PRIVATELY. The majority of our subscribers just want to get on with their research. They are not interested in receiving or being involved in chit-chat or a slanging match. Although Roy's contributions and expertise are welcome, I would like to publicly ask him to take a few deep breaths and consider the effect his reply will have before sending a message in the future. There's no point in continuing the debate on-list as I have placed it in 'Moderated' mode. Any comments, complaints, whinges, whines, moans or groans should be sent to me privately. I would like to hear from anyone genuinely interested in taking over the admin of this list. Cheers, Dave Jassie - List Administrator (for now)