----- Original Message ---- From: Roy Stockdill <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> To: WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 12 August, 2007 9:13:53 AM Subject: Re: [WRY] Thank You for the help ; Nowell-Dawson- New to genealogy From: "Ned Gibbs" <ndgibbs15@hotmail.com> > I'm sorry for the typo the year of marriage is 1849 and I ordered a > marriage certificate on Thursday from the GRO the info I have was on > William Nowell's grave marker. My husband's family are the Nowell's my > father in-law's mother is a Nowell and they have been to his grave > site in Hallsville Boone Missouri and on his tombstone it say's where > he was born 31 July 1824 and for the place it say's Darlington > Yorkshire ,England and He died 20 Nov 1880 in Hallsville, Rocky Fork > Township Boone county Missouri I have found about 9 different William > Nowell's born the same year or within a year or two from Yorkshire . I > do know that he had a son named William Byron Nowell Born in 1852 and > died in Columbia Missouri He was born in WI I have his death cert and > it says his mother is Ruth Dawson and father is William Nowell who > died in Hallsville MO . So I am Hoping the marriage cert will have all > the info on it . I was informed by someone that the lines of the > boundaries was different back then than now is this true ? if they > left in 1850 do you have any idea what ship they may have been on or > what port they may have come into or what i can search to find out ? > Again thank you so much for your help Debbie Gibbs CA> A few points in response to your queries..... 1) You are correct in saying that boundaries have changed over the years, but I can assure you that the town of Darlington itself has never been in Yorkshire. It does, however, lie very close to the Yorkshire- County Durham border and some outlying villages that probably regard Darlington as their main and nearest major town do lie just across the county border in Yorkshire. It is also true that the Darlington Registration District for about 100 years from 1837 to 1936 contained a number of parishes that geographically lay within the North Riding of Yorkshire. All you have to do to discover what places lay within a particular RD is to go to FreeBMD and call up any event in that district - using Smith and Darlington will do - and then click on the name of the RD. This takes you to other links that give a full list of all the towns, parishes and villages that lay within the RD. It rather depends on where William Nowell thought he was born. He may indeed have been born across the border in Yorkshire but told people it was Darlington because that was what he regarded as the nearest major town. People who lived on the border of two counties frequently had only a vague idea of which county they were in. It is equally likely that if his children and descendants, who were born in America, were responsible for the grave marker they probably had only the vaguest idea of where Darlington was, especially in the 19th century. Today, given the advantage of the Internet, you have only to enter "Darlington" into Google to learn just about everything you could possible wish to know about the place. I recommend you to do this, since it is ALWAYS as well to familiarise yourself with the geography and history of the place in which you are researching. Darlington, for instance, is widely known for its association with the birth of the railways. 2) The marriage certificate will have the names of both fathers but NOT the mothers. Unfortunately, those have never appeared on English marriage certificates. However, as I pointed out yesterday, the father's name should enable you to find the right Ruth Dawson in the 1841 census. Then you can look for her baptism and the parents' marriage on the IGI. 3) They would almost certainly have left from Liverpool, I would think. -- Roy Stockdill Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies Guild of One-Name Studies website: www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/