Hello Judith I haven't heard about the Thistlewaite book, though I do have lots of bmds of ELLIS family members collected from the Leeds archives by an ancestral living relative Needless to say I would be interested in a lookup of ELLIS surnames in this register to check on any additional surnames - and especially by their location - as this missing information. Richard PS Is this book generally available either through the national library scheme or to buy? -----Original Message----- From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Judith Varley Sent: 24 December 2007 19:37 To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WRY] quakers in yorkshire I have a book published in 1979 written by W Pearson Thistlethwaite 'Yorkshire Quartley Meeting[of the Soc of Friends]' 1665-1955 it has a very good surname index in the back if anyone would like a lookup Judith At 19:18 24/12/2007, you wrote: >The Leeds Public Library have the Quaker Birth , Marriages & Death records >on film for all Yorks alot of the records are name indexed. >Judith > > > > > > > > > > > >At 17:09 24/12/2007, you wrote: > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "richard ellis" <richard@ellisresearch.demon.co.uk> > >To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 10:21 AM > >Subject: Re: [WRY] quakers in yorkshire > > > >Hi Richard, > > I got mine form a book in Bradford Library, and there are > >additional details, in Leeds University, which we will gather soon and add > >to the rest. > > > >It started in 1650's The book has lots of other small Quakers burial place > >listed. I have not done these. Hope this helps. Janet. > > > >Janet Ogden Project Officer for Bradford FHSoc., FreeCEN 1891 Huddersfield > >& Saddleworth Also for FreeREG Yorkshire > > > > > > > Dear Janet > > > > > > I'm delighted to know that - like me - you have been able to access > > > Quaker records via the LDS - which indeed are available via the LDS > > > website on the internet. > > > > > > However I am fairly sure that the earliest dates of such Quaker records > > > only started in the 1670's - and that it is only via deduction that one > > > could establish the connections to earlier family members via C of E > > > parish records > > > > > > My earliest record is a Quaker marriage in Yorkshire in 1676, though > > > there are positive links to earlier birth and marriage records, when the > > > family was C of E. > > > > > > I do think that the "list" should know that Quaker births and marriages > > > are recorded on the IGI - but not identified as such ie as Quakers - > > > with the best "clue" being only a recorded birth, and not a baptism, > > > whilst I assume that would be no separate identification of a Quaker > > > marriage.( though someone may know!) > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com > > > [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of janet thomas > > > Sent: 22 December 2007 22:43 > > > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: [WRY] quakers in yorkshire > > > > > > > > > I have read the responses to the Quakers with interest. Living in > > > Australia, > > > I imagine that you don't have much access to records in England. You may > > > find that the actual Monthly Meeting records that you are looking for are > > > filmed by LDS. I have English Quakers myself and have researched those MM > > > records from Salt Lake and from my local FHC. My Quakers migrated in the > > > 1670s to America but I have found all of them in the English MM records > > > prior to that time. Mine are from Derbyshire and YKS and from these > Quaker > > > records, I was able to get them back to the beginning of the parish > > > registers before they were Quakers. > > > > > > Those MM records are wonderful as they can tell you a lot about the > > > society > > > they lived in and about the individuals as well. For example, one of mine > > > was thrown out for drinking and mistreating his family. I have also read > > > with interest the discussions of slavery and the decision that Quakers > > > could > > > no longer own slaves and how that issue was treated in the meetings. > > > Fascinating stuff! > > > > > > The records are found in the meeting, not in the town where they lived > > > unless they are the same. There are lists of the meetings online. As I > > > lost > > > my hard drive in the spring with all of my favorites, I cannot easily > > > locate > > > this. But Google should work. Some of these MM minutes are indexed as > > > well. > > > The searchable databases look great but once you find someone, it is well > > > worth going into the original records (or transcripts if that is all you > > > can > > > get). The Quaker birth and marriage records are not on the IGI for some > > > reason and Quakers and Jews are the 2 groups exempt from needing to be > > > married in the C of E prior to 1837. > > > > > > If you want to pursue this, contact me off the list. It has been a few > > > years > > > since I worked on this so I will need to dredge the memory. > > > > > > Janet Sugden Thomas > > > Stamford, CT > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.5/1190 - Release Date: > > > 19/12/2007 19:37 > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------- > >I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > >It has removed 64034 spam emails to date. > >Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > >Try SPAMfighter for free now! > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message