>>> Hi, All, >>> >>> I wonder whether anyone could help me with a mystery / brickwall, please >>> ? >>> I shall try to make it as brief as possible (!) >>> >>> A Joshua BATTY married a Charlotte SHEPHERD in Sheffield, YKS on 17 Apr, >>> 1854. (Certificate in my possession.) >>> They had 2 children born in England - Hannah Elizabeth on 11 Mar, 1855, >>> YKS and Sarah Ann on 15 Jul, 1857, YKS. (Certificates ditto.) >>> >>> Joshua's occupation in the 1851 Census was Ag Labourer and he was a >>> prisoner in Wakefield. >>> >>> Then he and Charlotte and the 2 girls arrived in Melbourne on the >>> "Northern Bride" in Jun, 1858, along with other members of the BATTY >>> family (spelt BATTYE on ship's record). >>> >>> There are 6 baptisms for children at the Presbyterian Church in Carcoar, >>> N.S.W. >>> >>> - Sarah Ann b. 15 Jul, 1857, bapt 6 Jan, 1863 (b. Sheffield to Joshua >>> BATTY, Farmer and Charlotte (SHEPHERD.) >>> - Mary Jane b. 3 Jun, 1859 (Aus), bpt 6 Jan, 1863. Joshua's birthplace >>> is >>> Sheffield and mother is Charlotte. >>> - Eliza b. 9 May, 1866, bpt 6 Jun, 1868. Joshua is Labourer, Summerhill >>> and mother is Charlotte. >>> - Martha b. 28 Jul, 1864, bpt 6 Apr, 1868. same parents and details as >>> above. >>> - David b. 20 Sep, 1868, bpt 13 Apr, 1869. Joshua is now "Farmer, >>> Summerhill, mother is Charlotte (SHEPHERD.) >>> - William b. 29 Jul, 1870, bpt 9 Apr, 1871. Joshua is Farmer, >>> Summerhill, >>> mother is Charlotte (SHEPHERD.) >>> >>> Now the mystery starts to >>> deepen........................................... >>> >>> There are 12 children born to a George SHEPHARD(sic) and Charlotte (MS >>> SHEPHARD) (on the date they say they were married in Sheffield, >>> Charlotte >>> m. Joshua BATTY.) There is *no* marriage anywhere in UK around the right >>> time to 2 SHEPHARDs(sic.) Nor in N.S.W. >>> >>> Children are: >>> >>> - Hannah Elizabeth. b. 1855 (according to her MC in 1873 she was 18 and >>> b. >>> YKS.) >>> - Sarah Ann b. 1857 YKS >>> - Mary Jane b. 1859 (I have her BC and she was b. 3 Jun, 1859, >>> Summerhill >>> and was unnamed on the BC. Parents George and Charlotte. >>> - Charlotte b. 31 Jan, 1861, Summerhill - unnamed on BC >>> - James b. 11 Sep, 1862, Summerhill. Parents George and Charlotte. >>> - Martha b. 1864 d/o >>> - Eliza b. 1866 d/o >>> - David b. 1868 d/o >>> - William b. 1870 d/o (died 1872) >>> - George b. 12 Sep, 1872 d/o "born in hollow by house". >>> - Joseph b. 1874 d.o >>> - Thomas b. 1876 >>> >>> (There is no Noble SHEPHARD born to George and Charlotte, as it says on >>> his DC. He was the illegitimate son of Eliza (b. 1866), but must have >>> been >>> reared by G and C and thought they were his parents.) >>> >>> George SHEPHARD died in 1879 at Summerhill. Joshua BATTY died in >>> Parramatta Asylum in 1882, so they can't be the same person. >>> Charlotte died 31 Dec, 1914 (on nsw bmd as 1915). >>> >>> I have both George and Charlotte's DCs and both their wills. >>> >>> Would someone who loves a good mystery <vbg> like to assist me in trying >>> to unravel this mess ? >>> >>> Also would anyone know where the baptismal records would be for the >>> 'missing' BATTY baptisms? Most likely they would be either at home in >>> Rockley or in the Anglican Church in Rockley. How would I obtain these, >>> please? >>> >>> As well, would there be any admission records for Joshua to Parramatta >>> Asylum? (His brother William also died there.) >>> >>> Thanks for listening ! >>> Carolyn in Bathurst. >