Dear Janet I'm delighted to know that - like me - you have been able to access Quaker records via the LDS - which indeed are available via the LDS website on the internet. However I am fairly sure that the earliest dates of such Quaker records only started in the 1670's - and that it is only via deduction that one could establish the connections to earlier family members via C of E parish records My earliest record is a Quaker marriage in Yorkshire in 1676, though there are positive links to earlier birth and marriage records, when the family was C of E. I do think that the "list" should know that Quaker births and marriages are recorded on the IGI - but not identified as such ie as Quakers - with the best "clue" being only a recorded birth, and not a baptism, whilst I assume that would be no separate identification of a Quaker marriage.( though someone may know!) Richard -----Original Message----- From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of janet thomas Sent: 22 December 2007 22:43 To: west-riding@rootsweb.com Subject: [WRY] quakers in yorkshire I have read the responses to the Quakers with interest. Living in Australia, I imagine that you don't have much access to records in England. You may find that the actual Monthly Meeting records that you are looking for are filmed by LDS. I have English Quakers myself and have researched those MM records from Salt Lake and from my local FHC. My Quakers migrated in the 1670s to America but I have found all of them in the English MM records prior to that time. Mine are from Derbyshire and YKS and from these Quaker records, I was able to get them back to the beginning of the parish registers before they were Quakers. Those MM records are wonderful as they can tell you a lot about the society they lived in and about the individuals as well. For example, one of mine was thrown out for drinking and mistreating his family. I have also read with interest the discussions of slavery and the decision that Quakers could no longer own slaves and how that issue was treated in the meetings. Fascinating stuff! The records are found in the meeting, not in the town where they lived unless they are the same. There are lists of the meetings online. As I lost my hard drive in the spring with all of my favorites, I cannot easily locate this. But Google should work. Some of these MM minutes are indexed as well. The searchable databases look great but once you find someone, it is well worth going into the original records (or transcripts if that is all you can get). The Quaker birth and marriage records are not on the IGI for some reason and Quakers and Jews are the 2 groups exempt from needing to be married in the C of E prior to 1837. If you want to pursue this, contact me off the list. It has been a few years since I worked on this so I will need to dredge the memory. Janet Sugden Thomas Stamford, CT ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It would appear that some Quaker records are listed as such. Tab in Shewell, just use area and country-England, and the first entries are Meeting records. beth in NS with an interest in Shewell's in Glos.

----- Original Message ----- From: "richard ellis" <richard@ellisresearch.demon.co.uk> To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [WRY] quakers in yorkshire Hi Richard, I got mine form a book in Bradford Library, and there are additional details, in Leeds University, which we will gather soon and add to the rest. It started in 1650's The book has lots of other small Quakers burial place listed. I have not done these. Hope this helps. Janet. Janet Ogden Project Officer for Bradford FHSoc., FreeCEN 1891 Huddersfield & Saddleworth Also for FreeREG Yorkshire > Dear Janet > > I'm delighted to know that - like me - you have been able to access > Quaker records via the LDS - which indeed are available via the LDS > website on the internet. > > However I am fairly sure that the earliest dates of such Quaker records > only started in the 1670's - and that it is only via deduction that one > could establish the connections to earlier family members via C of E > parish records > > My earliest record is a Quaker marriage in Yorkshire in 1676, though > there are positive links to earlier birth and marriage records, when the > family was C of E. > > I do think that the "list" should know that Quaker births and marriages > are recorded on the IGI - but not identified as such ie as Quakers - > with the best "clue" being only a recorded birth, and not a baptism, > whilst I assume that would be no separate identification of a Quaker > marriage.( though someone may know!) > > Richard > > -----Original Message----- > From: west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:west-riding-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of janet thomas > Sent: 22 December 2007 22:43 > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WRY] quakers in yorkshire > > > I have read the responses to the Quakers with interest. Living in > Australia, > I imagine that you don't have much access to records in England. You may > find that the actual Monthly Meeting records that you are looking for are > filmed by LDS. I have English Quakers myself and have researched those MM > records from Salt Lake and from my local FHC. My Quakers migrated in the > 1670s to America but I have found all of them in the English MM records > prior to that time. Mine are from Derbyshire and YKS and from these Quaker > records, I was able to get them back to the beginning of the parish > registers before they were Quakers. > > Those MM records are wonderful as they can tell you a lot about the > society > they lived in and about the individuals as well. For example, one of mine > was thrown out for drinking and mistreating his family. I have also read > with interest the discussions of slavery and the decision that Quakers > could > no longer own slaves and how that issue was treated in the meetings. > Fascinating stuff! > > The records are found in the meeting, not in the town where they lived > unless they are the same. There are lists of the meetings online. As I > lost > my hard drive in the spring with all of my favorites, I cannot easily > locate > this. But Google should work. Some of these MM minutes are indexed as > well. > The searchable databases look great but once you find someone, it is well > worth going into the original records (or transcripts if that is all you > can > get). The Quaker birth and marriage records are not on the IGI for some > reason and Quakers and Jews are the 2 groups exempt from needing to be > married in the C of E prior to 1837. > > If you want to pursue this, contact me off the list. It has been a few > years > since I worked on this so I will need to dredge the memory. > > Janet Sugden Thomas > Stamford, CT > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.5/1190 - Release Date: > 19/12/2007 19:37 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 64034 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now!