From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> > Further to my explanation of the calendar changes of 1752, I have > been perusing a substantial number of parish registers on an Ancestry > CD to see whether I could find any interesting or curious entries as a > result. > > This is not from Yorkshire but Nottinghamshire. However, it appears on > the same CD as the Yorkshire West Riding records..... > > Benjamin COW, blacksmith, 38, bachelor, and Hannah PARKER, both of the > parish of St Nicholas, Nottingham, took out a licence to marry on 2nd > September 1752 (Nottinghamshire marriage licence abstracts). > > They married at St Nicholas, Nottingham, on Sep 14 1752, according to > the registers. This date also appears in the IGI (private submission). > > In fact, they married the very next day after getting the licence, > since in 1752 Sept 2 was followed immediately by Sep 14 ! > > I have often wondered if anyone has any occurrences from the non- > existent period Sep 3-Sep 13 1752 in their records? Did any incumbents > ignore the fact that 11 days were lost and insert the dates that never > officially existed? Since we know that there were some vicars who > stuck to the Old Style year, it seems possible there were a few who, > whether by accident, forgetfulness or design, inserted the wrong dates > in September!> I've now found an interesting comment from the incumbent of Danby-in- Cleveland in Yorkshire North Riding. He wrote the following in his registers..... "02 Sep 1752 The new Stile or Gregorian Account took Place by Act of Parliament; so eleven Days were cut off or annihilated, & the 02 Sep 1752 was reckoned the 02 Sep 1752 or 13 Sep 1752 , the next Day the 14 Sep 1752 & so on, this was well enough relished till Christmas came, When some wo'd syea a great many keep old Christmas, & some New; Nay the superstitious Notion was so prevalent amongst our Moore Folks that scarce above 40 made their appearance at the Sacrament on new Xtmas Day which I could attribute to Nothing but superstition & Bigotry." So it seems his parishioners, at least, were confused as to when to celebrate Christmas and New Year! I wonder how long this lasted and how long it was before the new calendar came to be totally accepted by the vast majority? -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

hI One should remember these lost dates, and also that the world did not adopt the same calender at the same time so ship trips etc can be weeks longer, shorter than expected. Deaths abroasd can be recorded localy in one calender and the UK under another. regards Terry Norway "Happy New Year" > From: roy.stockdill@btinternet.com > To: west-riding@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 16:08:08 +0000 > Subject: Re: [WRY] Which is correct? IGI or English Parish Registers > > From: "Roy Stockdill" > > >> Further to my explanation of the calendar changes of 1752, I have >> been perusing a substantial number of parish registers on an Ancestry> CD to see whether I could find any interesting or curious entries as a >> result. >> >> This is not from Yorkshire but Nottinghamshire. However, it appears on >> the same CD as the Yorkshire West Riding records..... >> >> Benjamin COW, blacksmith, 38, bachelor, and Hannah PARKER, both of the >> parish of St Nicholas, Nottingham, took out a licence to marry on 2nd >> September 1752 (Nottinghamshire marriage licence abstracts). >> >> They married at St Nicholas, Nottingham, on Sep 14 1752, according to >> the registers. This date also appears in the IGI (private submission). >> >> In fact, they married the very next day after getting the licence, >> since in 1752 Sept 2 was followed immediately by Sep 14 ! >> >> I have often wondered if anyone has any occurrences from the non- >> existent period Sep 3-Sep 13 1752 in their records? Did any incumbents >> ignore the fact that 11 days were lost and insert the dates that never >> officially existed? Since we know that there were some vicars who >> stuck to the Old Style year, it seems possible there were a few who, >> whether by accident, forgetfulness or design, inserted the wrong dates >> in September!> > > I've now found an interesting comment from the incumbent of Danby-in- > Cleveland in Yorkshire North Riding. He wrote the following in his > registers..... > > "02 Sep 1752 The new Stile or Gregorian Account took Place by Act of > Parliament; so eleven Days were cut off or annihilated, & the > 02 Sep 1752 was reckoned the 02 Sep 1752 or 13 Sep 1752 > , the next Day the 14 Sep 1752 & so on, this was well enough > relished till Christmas came, When some wo'd syea a great > many keep old Christmas, & some New; Nay the superstitious > Notion was so prevalent amongst our Moore Folks that scarce > above 40 made their appearance at the Sacrament on new > Xtmas Day which I could attribute to Nothing but superstition & > Bigotry." > > So it seems his parishioners, at least, were confused as to when > to celebrate Christmas and New Year! I wonder how long this > lasted and how long it was before the new calendar came to be > totally accepted by the vast majority? > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: > www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/