From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> > From: Geoff Watson <geoffwatsone@hotmail.com> > > > Did this one year discrepancy continue towards the end of the > > century - I have several such instances in the 1780'8 and 1790's, > > all in one parish (Haworth) between January and March.......> > > I, too, have noticed this occasionally, though not quite as late as > that. Certainly, though, in the 1750s and 1760s. > > The only explanation I can proffer is a very elderly and > long-standing, bolshy vicar who refused to accept the new style and > continued with the old year long after the calendar changes had taken > place! Some were like that and distinctly resented being told how to > conduct their parish business. > > It might be worth trying to find a list of incumbents of Haworth and > see whether the man in charge at the time had been there for many > years.> In fact, there is a full list of the incumbents of Haworth from 1654-1995 at Genuki. It is easily found simply by entering "Vicars of Haworth" into Google. It reveals a couple of interesting things..... The incumbent from 1742 to 1763 was one W Grimshaw, otherwise William Grimshaw, also known as "Mad Grimshaw" because he was exceedingly eccentric and zealous and used to tour the village of Haworth driving people from the pubs and the streets into his church with a whip, where he subjected them to long hell-and-brimstone sermons! I can well imagine that Grimshaw would not have been well disposed to the new changes in the registers and refused to introduce them. He was succeeded in 1763 by J Richardson, who was the incumbent for many years until 1791. Quite possibly he was influenced by "Mad Grimshaw" and after succeeding him continued to use the old calendar. Just enter "Mad Grimshaw+Haworth" into Google and you will find a very entertaining account of his ministry as the first website that appears. It seems that in his youth he was a ruffian and drunkard who later underwent a spiritual transformation and became a zealous missionary and roving Methodist preacher (close friend of John Wesley) who travelled about the countryside on a white horse, preaching to thousands. -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Roy Thanks for that! Superb info Happy 2008! Geoff in Sevilla > From: roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> To: west-riding@rootsweb.com> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:00:21 +0000> Subject: Re: [WRY] Which is correct? IGI or English Parish Registers> > From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com>> > From: Geoff Watson <geoffwatsone@hotmail.com>> > > > > Did this one year discrepancy continue towards the end of the> > > century - I have several such instances in the 1780'8 and 1790's,> > > all in one parish (Haworth) between January and March.......>> > > > I, too, have noticed this occasionally, though not quite as late as> > that. Certainly, though, in the 1750s and 1760s.> > > > The only explanation I can proffer is a very elderly and> > long-standing, bolshy vicar who refused to accept the new style and> > continued with the old year long after the calendar changes had taken> > place! Some were like that and distinctly resented being told how to> > conduct their parish business.> > > > It might be worth trying to find a list of incumbents of Haworth and> > see whether the man in charge at the time had been there for many> > years.>> > In fact, there is a full list of the incumbents of Haworth from 1654-1995 at > Genuki. It is easily found simply by entering "Vicars of Haworth" into > Google. It reveals a couple of interesting things.....> > The incumbent from 1742 to 1763 was one W Grimshaw, otherwise > William Grimshaw, also known as "Mad Grimshaw" because he was > exceedingly eccentric and zealous and used to tour the village of > Haworth driving people from the pubs and the streets into his church with > a whip, where he subjected them to long hell-and-brimstone sermons! > > I can well imagine that Grimshaw would not have been well disposed to > the new changes in the registers and refused to introduce them. He was > succeeded in 1763 by J Richardson, who was the incumbent for many > years until 1791. Quite possibly he was influenced by "Mad Grimshaw" > and after succeeding him continued to use the old calendar.> > Just enter "Mad Grimshaw+Haworth" into Google and you will find a very > entertaining account of his ministry as the first website that appears. It > seems that in his youth he was a ruffian and drunkard who later > underwent a spiritual transformation and became a zealous missionary > and roving Methodist preacher (close friend of John Wesley) who > travelled about the countryside on a white horse, preaching to thousands.> > --> Roy Stockdill> Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer> Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: > www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html> > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about."> OSCAR WILDE> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message