Hi Carolyn, Being a BATTY research myself I thought I might be able to spot Joshua in my tree for Sheffield. I haven't found him. This is what I have found so far....... If they were in the Sheffield area during the 1861 census I can not see them showing up on the SDFHS index or on Ancestry. Have you been able to spot them? I have however found this on the IGI. JOSHUA BATTY - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 08 JUN 1829 Penistone, Yorkshire, England His parents are James Batty & Sarah Brown. Penistone is just a little up the Valley from Sheffield not far from Barnsley. Wortley is the registration district that covers..... Bradfield; Cawthorne; Ecclesfield; High Hoyland; Penistone; Wortley Maybe a look around the Penistone Parish Records would be helpful. There is a 20 year old Joshua in Wakefield Prison on the 1851 census. It states he came from Barnsley. Elaine in Ottawa. Sheffield Indexers Site Admin. http://sheff-indexers.thewholeshebang.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Wilson" <dazwilson@bigpond.com> To: <WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com> Sent: November 20, 2007 10:46 PM Subject: [WRY] New Lister: re BATTY and SHEPHERD(sic) > Greetings from Australia, > > This is my 1st posting, having just joined the list. > > I recently obtained a marriage certificate from the GRO of a Charlotte > SHEPHERD,21, father David (gardner) to a Joshua BATTY,24, father James > (farmer). Married by licence on 17th Apr, 1854, Sheffield. > > This very date and place are identical to that recorded by George and > Charlotte SHEPHARD (sic), who came to Rockley, near Bathurst, N.S.W. > Australia, on their death certificates and some of the birth certificates > of their children. > > I have never been able to find George SHEPHARD on the 1841 or 1851 Census > (b. abt 1829) (but his wife(?) Charlotte says that he was b. Yorkshire (no > town mentioned) to a James SHEPHARD, Farmer and a Sarah WINTERBOTTOM. I > have been unable to find a marriage for them. > > Charlotte's age varies on every certificate I've purchased, but her DOB > would be between 1832-1836, Derbyshire(no town mentioned.) Nor does she > know her parents names, but says that her father was a Farmer. She also > says that her surname was SHEPHARD. (There is no marriage in Sheffield of > 2 SHEPHARDs.) > > Would there be anyone researching these families, or might be able to help > me, please? I have just ordered the DC of Joshua BATTY, 1882 in > Parramatta, N.S.W. and the birth certificates of the 2 eldest BATTY > daughters: Hannah Elizabeth, 1855, Wortley and Sarah Ann, 1857, Eccleshall > Bierlow. > > Best wishes, > Carolyn in Bathurst. N.S.W. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1139 - Release Date: > 11/19/2007 12:35 PM > >

Hi I remember a Batty family in Settle in 1950's regards Terry Norway> From: trayford@rogers.com> To: west-riding@rootsweb.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 00:10:03 -0500> Subject: Re: [WRY] New Lister: re BATTY and SHEPHERD(sic)> > Hi Carolyn,> > Being a BATTY research myself I thought I might be able to spot Joshua in my > tree for Sheffield. I haven't found him.> > This is what I have found so far.......> If they were in the Sheffield area during the 1861 census I can not see them > showing up on the SDFHS index or on Ancestry.> > Have you been able to spot them?> > I have however found this on the IGI.> JOSHUA BATTY - International Genealogical Index> Gender: Male Christening: 08 JUN 1829 Penistone, Yorkshire, England> His parents are James Batty & Sarah Brown.> > Penistone is just a little up the Valley from Sheffield not far from > Barnsley.> Wortley is the registration district that covers.....> > Bradfield; Cawthorne; Ecclesfield; High Hoyland; Penistone; Wortley> > Maybe a look around the Penistone Parish Records would be helpful.> There is a 20 year old Joshua in Wakefield Prison on the 1851 census. It > states he came from Barnsley.> > > > Elaine in Ottawa.> Sheffield Indexers Site Admin.> http://sheff-indexers.thewholeshebang.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carolyn Wilson" <dazwilson@bigpond.com>> To: <WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com>> Sent: November 20, 2007 10:46 PM> Subject: [WRY] New Lister: re BATTY and SHEPHERD(sic)> > > > Greetings from Australia,> >> > This is my 1st posting, having just joined the list.> >> > I recently obtained a marriage certificate from the GRO of a Charlotte > > SHEPHERD,21, father David (gardner) to a Joshua BATTY,24, father James > > (farmer). Married by licence on 17th Apr, 1854, Sheffield.> >> > This very date and place are identical to that recorded by George and > > Charlotte SHEPHARD (sic), who came to Rockley, near Bathurst, N.S.W. > > Australia, on their death certificates and some of the birth certificates > > of their children.> >> > I have never been able to find George SHEPHARD on the 1841 or 1851 Census > > (b. abt 1829) (but his wife(?) Charlotte says that he was b. Yorkshire (no > > town mentioned) to a James SHEPHARD, Farmer and a Sarah WINTERBOTTOM. I > > have been unable to find a marriage for them.> >> > Charlotte's age varies on every certificate I've purchased, but her DOB > > would be between 1832-1836, Derbyshire(no town mentioned.) Nor does she > > know her parents names, but says that her father was a Farmer. She also > > says that her surname was SHEPHARD. (There is no marriage in Sheffield of > > 2 SHEPHARDs.)> >> > Would there be anyone researching these families, or might be able to help > > me, please? I have just ordered the DC of Joshua BATTY, 1882 in > > Parramatta, N.S.W. and the birth certificates of the 2 eldest BATTY > > daughters: Hannah Elizabeth, 1855, Wortley and Sarah Ann, 1857, Eccleshall > > Bierlow.> >> > Best wishes,> > Carolyn in Bathurst. N.S.W.> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >> >> > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.> > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1139 - Release Date: > > 11/19/2007 12:35 PM> >> > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx

Hi, Elaine, Lovely to receive your message. Thanks! Yes, that is 'my' Joshua, son of James BATTY and Sarah BROWN. I , too, suspect that the prisoner in Wakefield in 1851 is he. Witnesses on his MC to Charlotte SHEPHERD were William BATTY and Martha BARRACLOUGH (whom I think married George BARRACLOUGH) and was his sister, as was William his brother. Sorry, I should have been more explicit, but I didn't want to make my 1st posting too long. Joshua and Charlotte and 2 little daughters came to N.S.W. via Melbourne on the "Northern Bride" as assisted immigrants, together with Joshua's brother Amos, sister Sarah and William. I have been going 'batty' with this bunch, but will explain later. Looking forward to hearing from you again. Best wishes, Carolyn in Bathurst. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elaine Pickard" <trayford@rogers.com> To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [WRY] New Lister: re BATTY and SHEPHERD(sic) > Hi Carolyn, > > Being a BATTY research myself I thought I might be able to spot Joshua in > my > tree for Sheffield. I haven't found him. > > This is what I have found so far....... > If they were in the Sheffield area during the 1861 census I can not see > them > showing up on the SDFHS index or on Ancestry. > > Have you been able to spot them? > > I have however found this on the IGI. > JOSHUA BATTY - International Genealogical Index > Gender: Male Christening: 08 JUN 1829 Penistone, Yorkshire, England > His parents are James Batty & Sarah Brown. > > Penistone is just a little up the Valley from Sheffield not far from > Barnsley. > Wortley is the registration district that covers..... > > Bradfield; Cawthorne; Ecclesfield; High Hoyland; Penistone; Wortley > > Maybe a look around the Penistone Parish Records would be helpful. > There is a 20 year old Joshua in Wakefield Prison on the 1851 census. It > states he came from Barnsley. > > > > Elaine in Ottawa. > Sheffield Indexers Site Admin. > http://sheff-indexers.thewholeshebang.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carolyn Wilson" <dazwilson@bigpond.com> > To: <WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com> > Sent: November 20, 2007 10:46 PM > Subject: [WRY] New Lister: re BATTY and SHEPHERD(sic) > > >> Greetings from Australia, >> >> This is my 1st posting, having just joined the list. >> >> I recently obtained a marriage certificate from the GRO of a Charlotte >> SHEPHERD,21, father David (gardner) to a Joshua BATTY,24, father James >> (farmer). Married by licence on 17th Apr, 1854, Sheffield. >> >> This very date and place are identical to that recorded by George and >> Charlotte SHEPHARD (sic), who came to Rockley, near Bathurst, N.S.W. >> Australia, on their death certificates and some of the birth certificates >> of their children. >> >> I have never been able to find George SHEPHARD on the 1841 or 1851 Census >> (b. abt 1829) (but his wife(?) Charlotte says that he was b. Yorkshire >> (no >> town mentioned) to a James SHEPHARD, Farmer and a Sarah WINTERBOTTOM. I >> have been unable to find a marriage for them. >> >> Charlotte's age varies on every certificate I've purchased, but her DOB >> would be between 1832-1836, Derbyshire(no town mentioned.) Nor does she >> know her parents names, but says that her father was a Farmer. She also >> says that her surname was SHEPHARD. (There is no marriage in Sheffield of >> 2 SHEPHARDs.) >> >> Would there be anyone researching these families, or might be able to >> help >> me, please? I have just ordered the DC of Joshua BATTY, 1882 in >> Parramatta, N.S.W. and the birth certificates of the 2 eldest BATTY >> daughters: Hannah Elizabeth, 1855, Wortley and Sarah Ann, 1857, >> Eccleshall >> Bierlow. >> >> Best wishes, >> Carolyn in Bathurst. N.S.W. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1139 - Release Date: >> 11/19/2007 12:35 PM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, again, Elaine, I must be truly nuts! Still forgot to say why you couldn't find them in the 1861 C. They arrived in Melbourne in Jun, 1858. Of course we have no Census here. However, I'm still trying to find out more about Joshua and have emailed a couple of people in the GRD, 2007: only this morning, though. All the best, Carolyn. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elaine Pickard" <trayford@rogers.com> To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [WRY] New Lister: re BATTY and SHEPHERD(sic) > Hi Carolyn, > > Being a BATTY research myself I thought I might be able to spot Joshua in > my > tree for Sheffield. I haven't found him. > > This is what I have found so far....... > If they were in the Sheffield area during the 1861 census I can not see > them > showing up on the SDFHS index or on Ancestry. > > Have you been able to spot them? > > I have however found this on the IGI. > JOSHUA BATTY - International Genealogical Index > Gender: Male Christening: 08 JUN 1829 Penistone, Yorkshire, England > His parents are James Batty & Sarah Brown. > > Penistone is just a little up the Valley from Sheffield not far from > Barnsley. > Wortley is the registration district that covers..... > > Bradfield; Cawthorne; Ecclesfield; High Hoyland; Penistone; Wortley > > Maybe a look around the Penistone Parish Records would be helpful. > There is a 20 year old Joshua in Wakefield Prison on the 1851 census. It > states he came from Barnsley. > > > > Elaine in Ottawa. > Sheffield Indexers Site Admin. > http://sheff-indexers.thewholeshebang.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carolyn Wilson" <dazwilson@bigpond.com> > To: <WEST-RIDING@rootsweb.com> > Sent: November 20, 2007 10:46 PM > Subject: [WRY] New Lister: re BATTY and SHEPHERD(sic) > > >> Greetings from Australia, >> >> This is my 1st posting, having just joined the list. >> >> I recently obtained a marriage certificate from the GRO of a Charlotte >> SHEPHERD,21, father David (gardner) to a Joshua BATTY,24, father James >> (farmer). Married by licence on 17th Apr, 1854, Sheffield. >> >> This very date and place are identical to that recorded by George and >> Charlotte SHEPHARD (sic), who came to Rockley, near Bathurst, N.S.W. >> Australia, on their death certificates and some of the birth certificates >> of their children. >> >> I have never been able to find George SHEPHARD on the 1841 or 1851 Census >> (b. abt 1829) (but his wife(?) Charlotte says that he was b. Yorkshire >> (no >> town mentioned) to a James SHEPHARD, Farmer and a Sarah WINTERBOTTOM. I >> have been unable to find a marriage for them. >> >> Charlotte's age varies on every certificate I've purchased, but her DOB >> would be between 1832-1836, Derbyshire(no town mentioned.) Nor does she >> know her parents names, but says that her father was a Farmer. She also >> says that her surname was SHEPHARD. (There is no marriage in Sheffield of >> 2 SHEPHARDs.) >> >> Would there be anyone researching these families, or might be able to >> help >> me, please? I have just ordered the DC of Joshua BATTY, 1882 in >> Parramatta, N.S.W. and the birth certificates of the 2 eldest BATTY >> daughters: Hannah Elizabeth, 1855, Wortley and Sarah Ann, 1857, >> Eccleshall >> Bierlow. >> >> Best wishes, >> Carolyn in Bathurst. N.S.W. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1139 - Release Date: >> 11/19/2007 12:35 PM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >