Thank you for your reply, Elaine. Unfortunately the Northowram Speights are not the line I am following. In trying to provide as much information as possible when asking my questions, Im afraid I instead confused the issue for listers. The family with whom I am connected emigrated to Canada around 1830 and so could not possibly have appeared in any English census from that time forward. Thomas and Martha (Drake) Speight (born August 1801 in Bingley, Yorkshire) settled in Markham, Ontario sometime before 1834, and in 1837 Thomas bought land on which he established a wagon manufacturing business. >From 1837 on the family is to be found on the 7th Concession of Markham, County of York, Ontario. Thomas and Martha and their children (James, b. August 30, 1830, Markham, Ontario; Michael, b. November 19, 1832, Markham, Ontario; Thomas (the Younger) b. October 4, 1834, Markham, Ontario; Joseph, b. about 1838; Henry b. about 1840, Markham, Ontario; William B. (dob unknown) and Martha Hannah, b. October 17, 1843, Markham, Ontario) appear on the Canadian censuses of 1851 and 1871 while the two eldest sons, John and Samuel were living in Acton, Ontario from 1851 on. Alice had married John McBride on December 25, 1845 and may have been living in Vaughan, County of York, Canada at the time of the 1851 and 1871 censuses. Thomas the Elder died February 28, 1875 in the Village of Markham, Ontario and Martha died April 30, 1882, also in the Village of Markham. Now to my question: I am specifically looking for help in locating where the baptismal records for Samuel (born c. 1825, England) and Alice (b. January 28, 1827, England) are most likely to be held. I know that Thomas and Martha were married in the Parish Church of Bradford on July 29, 1822 and their firstborn son John was baptized in the Parish Church of Bingley on March 30, 1823 (which was also the church in which his mother Martha had been baptized), so it seems reasonable to think that the baptisms of Samuel and Alice might have been recorded in the Parish Church of Bingley. Where might those records now reside and how accessible might they be to a researcher with very little time to search? In terms of sightseeing, I realize that much of the landscape will have changed since Thomas and Martha Speight left Yorkshire nearly 175 years ago, but surely there are some places that might bear a little resemblance to the countryside that Thomas and Martha would have known. I would be particularly interested in seeing the parish churches of Bradford and Bingley are they referred to by any name other than the designation of parish church? So, as you say, fingers and toes crossed ... Kind regards, Diane >From: "Elaine Pickard" <trayford@rogers.com> >Reply-To: west-riding@rootsweb.com >To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [WRY] Bradford SPEIGHT Family >Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:50:54 -0400 > >Just to follow on.... > >I believe that Thomas was baptised at the Congregation (al) or Independent >Chapel in Northowram 5 March 1808 its on the IGI. > >I decided to check James aged 17 on the 1851 census and find he was >baptised >at the same Chapel as his father but he was four years old at the time he >was baptised. Check the IGI. Parents Thomas & Martha. > >That's as far as I have gone to check but you see what I have is different >to yours. >I have not found Thomas on the 1841 census but he was probably still in >Northowram. > >Toe & fingers crossed that you have time to sort the family out before you >leave. I always find it easier to do my research in Canada >And anything that has not been filmed by the LDS that is what I zero in on >when I visit. > >Elaine in Ottawa. >Temp Bradford List Admin. > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail is the next generation of MSN Hotmail. Its fast, simple, and safer than ever and best of all its still free. Try it today! www.newhotmail.ca?icid=WLHMENCA146
Hi Diane, I will try and help sort out you family now I have more information. The Parish Church in Bradford will now be the Cathedral in Bradford. That is where they were married as there were probably very few other churches around at the time. It was in the mid 1800's that there was a massive building plan started for churches in the industrial north of England. There is a very good photo of it on GENUKI. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/PhotoFrames/WRY/BradfordCathedral_1.html This section is on Bingley. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Bingley/index.html#Churches Neither Samuel or Alice appear to be on the IGI so either they were not baptised or the church where they were baptised has NOT been transcribed. Bradford Archives would be a good place to start and see what they have. Bingley. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/CBW/WRY/Bingley.html Seems the registers have been deposited at the WYAS. http://www.bradford.gov.uk/information_and_communication/library_and_information_services/libraries_local_studies.htm Think that's enough to start you off. But if you can think of anything else please e-mail ..........emdungworth@rogers.com Regards. Elaine in Ottawa. Temp Bradford Mailing List Admin.
From: "Elaine Pickard" <trayford@rogers.com> > The Parish Church in Bradford will now be the Cathedral in Bradford. > That is where they were married as there were probably very few other > churches around at the time. It was in the mid 1800's that there was a > massive building plan started for churches in the industrial north of > England.< The substantial number of new churches built in Victorian and just pre- Victorian times are sometimes referred to as "Million Churches". This is because many were erected as the result of the Church Building Act, passed by parliament in 1818 to commemorate Britain's victory over Napoleon at Waterloo. Parliament voted the sum of one million pounds to the purpose, hence the Act became popularly known as the "Million Act". Many of these new churches were in Yorkshire because towns like Leeds and Bradford were growing at an alarming rate, given the huge numbers of migrants arriving to work in the woollen and other industries. Existing churches simply weren't sufficient in number to cope, so Yorkshire got 106 of these "Million" churches out of a total of 612 throughout the country. The Church Building Society was set up to administer the funds and oversee the building programme and by 1856 a total of over 3 million pounds had been raised and spent on new churches. -- Roy Stockdill Guild of One-Name Studies: www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE
Hello Roy Were these all Church of England Churches or was there money allocated for non-conformist churches too? Eve Mazery Stocklands Farm 033 3305225 082 9752298 email addresses: stocklands@iafrica.com edulink@iafrica.com website: www.stocklandsfarm.co.za "A wonderful blend of old-world charm and modern luxury" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [WRY] Bradford SPEIGHT Family > From: "Elaine Pickard" <trayford@rogers.com> > >> The Parish Church in Bradford will now be the Cathedral in Bradford. >> That is where they were married as there were probably very few other >> churches around at the time. It was in the mid 1800's that there was a >> massive building plan started for churches in the industrial north of >> England.< > > The substantial number of new churches built in Victorian and just pre- > Victorian times are sometimes referred to as "Million Churches". This is > because many were erected as the result of the Church Building Act, > passed by parliament in 1818 to commemorate Britain's victory over > Napoleon at Waterloo. Parliament voted the sum of one million pounds to > the purpose, hence the Act became popularly known as the "Million Act". > > Many of these new churches were in Yorkshire because towns like Leeds > and Bradford were growing at an alarming rate, given the huge numbers > of migrants arriving to work in the woollen and other industries. Existing > churches simply weren't sufficient in number to cope, so Yorkshire got > 106 of these "Million" churches out of a total of 612 throughout the > country. > > The Church Building Society was set up to administer the funds and > oversee the building programme and by 1856 a total of over 3 million > pounds had been raised and spent on new churches. > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Guild of One-Name Studies: www.one-name.org > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: > www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message