No worries Judith. I find that each country has it's pluses & minuses. I have reasearch in Yorkshire, Scotland, the US, Canada, South Africa, Australia & NZ. I am thankful that I have a few of my Yorkie ancestors living in Dade Parishes at ther right time. My experence that historical Scottish Statutory records are far cheaper ( 1 pound verses 7 pounds), and give a lot more information. For example an English Death cert tells you very little, at the cost of 7 pounds, for 1 pound a Scottish cert gives you all the spouces, the names of the deceased parents (according to the informat), the informants name & thier relationship to the deceased of the witness. One of the best things I find about Scottish records is the Scottish custom of women using both her maiden & married name in BMD's and baptisms. The Yorkish brances of my tree, generally go back further than my Scottish ones, but there are lots of females with just thier first name, or a question mark on the maiden name. Where as the Scottish branches are fuller and end because the parish registers run out. England parish records go back much further, but have less information (Dade excluded), the fact that there are Bishops Transcripts also means, there is a back up, the Scottish registers don't have this, so if part of the register is missing, tough. Another minus with Scottish Church records, there is hardly any burial records (the Kirk felt such things were accociated with popery). England is unsual that it's indices are widely avaliable and right upto date. Scotland, some Canadian provences and Aussie state, which have pay per view access to certs, all have a limit on access smilar to Scotlands, 100 years for births, 75 years for marriage and 25 years for deaths. British Columbia & some Aussie states have 120 years on births, due to privacy and identify fraud reasons. NZ in in the process of something similar, which maybe even more draconian. Our widely avaliable BMD indices end at 1990, you want anything later you have to go into the registars office. I suspect one England gets it's certs online, you may find similar restrictions. Good luck and Good Hunting with your research. cheers John Dods Wellington, NZ --- Judith Kettlewell <judith.kettlewell@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi John > > Many thanks for your very detailed explanation of > how Scottish Records work > [in your first reply]. You never know, I may need > them at some time. > > This is my first foray into Scotland and it seems it > is not as easy as > researching in England. More expensive too! > > I may take a trip up to Edinburgh in August when the > Festival is on and kill > two birds with one stone. > > Thank you for your help. > > Judith > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Dods" <johndods2002@yahoo.com> > To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 11:18 PM > Subject: Re: [WRY] Scottish Marriages > > > > Sorry Judith, I've just realised I missed read > your > > 20th century dates as 19th century. oops. > > There are printed indexes of scottish marriages at > the > > Family History center in London (which I am sure > go up > > to this period). > > There is certainly an index at New Register House, > in > > Edinburgh and probably also accessable at the > Mitchel > > Library in Glasgow. > > No online index exists for these date. > > You will need someone in London or Edinburgh (or > > Glasgow) to do a look up. > > cheers > > John Dods > > Wellington, NZ > > > > Proud to be a transcriber for the freeCEN Project and volunteer for Random Acts of Geneological Kindness Ask me how you can contribute to either of these worthy projects or for other ways of helping our hobby. Researching BATTERS in all Yorkshire BENNIE in Lanarkshire, Dunbartonshire & WLN BENNING in Lanarkshire & Montreal COOPER in Pickering,Yorkshire DODS in East Lothian, Berwickshire, British Columbia, Montreal, Manchester, South Africa, Hong Kong, India DOUGLAS in Innerwick,ELN & Lanarkshire EASTWOOD in Holmfirth,WRY FENTON in Edinburgh FISHER in Leconfield & Pocklington, East YKS HAYTON in EastYorkshire HEWAT in East Lothian HESSELGRAVE in West Yorkshire LAMONT in Lanarkshire MCLEAN in Straclur,Argyll PAVER in Sherburn in Elmet, Yks RANKINE in Dunbartonshire, Perthshire SHIRREFF in East Lothian SUFFILL/SUFFIELD in West & North Yorkshire TROTTER, Islay,ARL,Lanarkshire, West Lothian WALTON, Bradford & Denby, Yorkshire WILLIAMSON in Edinburgh & North Berwick ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL

Thank you so much John for this wonderful explanation. I have put your information re Scottish research into a folder just in case I ever need to search in Scotland again. Much appreciated. Kind regards Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Dods" <johndods2002@yahoo.com> To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 7:15 AM Subject: Re: [WRY] Scottish Marriages > No worries Judith. > I find that each country has it's pluses & minuses. > I have reasearch in Yorkshire, Scotland, the US, > Canada, South Africa, Australia & NZ. > > I am thankful that I have a few of my Yorkie ancestors > living in Dade Parishes at ther right time. > > My experence that historical Scottish Statutory > records are far cheaper ( 1 pound verses 7 pounds), > and give a lot more information. For example an > English Death cert tells you very little, at the cost > of 7 pounds, for 1 pound a Scottish cert gives you all > the spouces, the names of the deceased parents > (according to the informat), the informants name & > thier relationship to the deceased of the witness. > > One of the best things I find about Scottish records > is the Scottish custom of women using both her maiden > & married name in BMD's and baptisms. > > The Yorkish brances of my tree, generally go back > further than my Scottish ones, but there are lots of > females with just thier first name, or a question mark > on the maiden name. > Where as the Scottish branches are fuller and end > because the parish registers run out. > England parish records go back much further, but have > less information (Dade excluded), the fact that there > are Bishops Transcripts also means, there is a back > up, the Scottish registers don't have this, so if part > of the register is missing, tough. > Another minus with Scottish Church records, there is > hardly any burial records (the Kirk felt such things > were accociated with popery). > > England is unsual that it's indices are widely > avaliable and right upto date. > > Scotland, some Canadian provences and Aussie state, > which have pay per view access to certs, all have a > limit on access smilar to Scotlands, 100 years for > births, 75 years for marriage and 25 years for deaths. > British Columbia & some Aussie states have 120 years > on births, due to privacy and identify fraud reasons. > NZ in in the process of something similar, which maybe > even more draconian. Our widely avaliable BMD indices > end at 1990, you want anything later you have to go > into the registars office. > > I suspect one England gets it's certs online, you may > find similar restrictions. > > Good luck and Good Hunting with your research. > > cheers > John Dods > Wellington, NZ > > > --- Judith Kettlewell > <judith.kettlewell@btinternet.com> wrote: > >> Hi John >> >> Many thanks for your very detailed explanation of >> how Scottish Records work >> [in your first reply]. You never know, I may need >> them at some time. >> >> This is my first foray into Scotland and it seems it >> is not as easy as >> researching in England. More expensive too! >> >> I may take a trip up to Edinburgh in August when the >> Festival is on and kill >> two birds with one stone. >> >> Thank you for your help. >> >> Judith >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Dods" <johndods2002@yahoo.com> >> To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 11:18 PM >> Subject: Re: [WRY] Scottish Marriages >> >> >> > Sorry Judith, I've just realised I missed read >> your >> > 20th century dates as 19th century. oops. >> > There are printed indexes of scottish marriages at >> the >> > Family History center in London (which I am sure >> go up >> > to this period). >> > There is certainly an index at New Register House, >> in >> > Edinburgh and probably also accessable at the >> Mitchel >> > Library in Glasgow. >> > No online index exists for these date. >> > You will need someone in London or Edinburgh (or >> > Glasgow) to do a look up. >> > cheers >> > John Dods >> > Wellington, NZ >> > >> > > > > Proud to be a transcriber for the freeCEN Project > and volunteer for Random Acts of Geneological Kindness > Ask me how you can contribute to either of these worthy projects or for > other ways of helping our hobby. > Researching > BATTERS in all Yorkshire > BENNIE in Lanarkshire, Dunbartonshire & WLN > BENNING in Lanarkshire & Montreal > COOPER in Pickering,Yorkshire > DODS in East Lothian, Berwickshire, British Columbia, Montreal, > Manchester, South Africa, Hong Kong, India > DOUGLAS in Innerwick,ELN & Lanarkshire > EASTWOOD in Holmfirth,WRY > FENTON in Edinburgh > FISHER in Leconfield & Pocklington, East YKS > HAYTON in EastYorkshire > HEWAT in East Lothian > HESSELGRAVE in West Yorkshire > LAMONT in Lanarkshire > MCLEAN in Straclur,Argyll > PAVER in Sherburn in Elmet, Yks > RANKINE in Dunbartonshire, Perthshire > SHIRREFF in East Lothian > SUFFILL/SUFFIELD in West & North Yorkshire > TROTTER, Islay,ARL,Lanarkshire, West Lothian > WALTON, Bradford & Denby, Yorkshire > WILLIAMSON in Edinburgh & North Berwick > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Get your own web address. > Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! 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Me too John. Thank you very much Regards Margaret On 16 Jul 2007, at 10:37, Judith Kettlewell wrote: Thank you so much John for this wonderful explanation. I have put your information re Scottish research into a folder just in case I ever need to search in Scotland again. Much appreciated. Kind regards Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Dods" <johndods2002@yahoo.com> To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 7:15 AM Subject: Re: [WRY] Scottish Marriages > No worries Judith. > I find that each country has it's pluses & minuses. > I have reasearch in Yorkshire, Scotland, the US, > Canada, South Africa, Australia & NZ. > > I am thankful that I have a few of my Yorkie ancestors > living in Dade Parishes at ther right time. > > My experence that historical Scottish Statutory > records are far cheaper ( 1 pound verses 7 pounds), > and give a lot more information. For example an > English Death cert tells you very little, at the cost > of 7 pounds, for 1 pound a Scottish cert gives you all > the spouces, the names of the deceased parents > (according to the informat), the informants name & > thier relationship to the deceased of the witness. > > One of the best things I find about Scottish records > is the Scottish custom of women using both her maiden > & married name in BMD's and baptisms. > > The Yorkish brances of my tree, generally go back > further than my Scottish ones, but there are lots of > females with just thier first name, or a question mark > on the maiden name. > Where as the Scottish branches are fuller and end > because the parish registers run out. > England parish records go back much further, but have > less information (Dade excluded), the fact that there > are Bishops Transcripts also means, there is a back > up, the Scottish registers don't have this, so if part > of the register is missing, tough. > Another minus with Scottish Church records, there is > hardly any burial records (the Kirk felt such things > were accociated with popery). > > England is unsual that it's indices are widely > avaliable and right upto date. > > Scotland, some Canadian provences and Aussie state, > which have pay per view access to certs, all have a > limit on access smilar to Scotlands, 100 years for > births, 75 years for marriage and 25 years for deaths. > British Columbia & some Aussie states have 120 years > on births, due to privacy and identify fraud reasons. > NZ in in the process of something similar, which maybe > even more draconian. Our widely avaliable BMD indices > end at 1990, you want anything later you have to go > into the registars office. > > I suspect one England gets it's certs online, you may > find similar restrictions. > > Good luck and Good Hunting with your research. > > cheers > John Dods > Wellington, NZ > > > --- Judith Kettlewell > <judith.kettlewell@btinternet.com> wrote: > >> Hi John >> >> Many thanks for your very detailed explanation of >> how Scottish Records work >> [in your first reply]. You never know, I may need >> them at some time. >> >> This is my first foray into Scotland and it seems it >> is not as easy as >> researching in England. More expensive too! >> >> I may take a trip up to Edinburgh in August when the >> Festival is on and kill >> two birds with one stone. >> >> Thank you for your help. >> >> Judith >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Dods" <johndods2002@yahoo.com> >> To: <west-riding@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 11:18 PM >> Subject: Re: [WRY] Scottish Marriages >> >> >>> Sorry Judith, I've just realised I missed read >> your >>> 20th century dates as 19th century. oops. >>> There are printed indexes of scottish marriages at >> the >>> Family History center in London (which I am sure >> go up >>> to this period). >>> There is certainly an index at New Register House, >> in >>> Edinburgh and probably also accessable at the >> Mitchel >>> Library in Glasgow. >>> No online index exists for these date. >>> You will need someone in London or Edinburgh (or >>> Glasgow) to do a look up. >>> cheers >>> John Dods >>> Wellington, NZ >>> >>> > > > Proud to be a transcriber for the freeCEN Project > and volunteer for Random Acts of Geneological Kindness > Ask me how you can contribute to either of these worthy projects or > for > other ways of helping our hobby. > Researching > BATTERS in all Yorkshire > BENNIE in Lanarkshire, Dunbartonshire & WLN > BENNING in Lanarkshire & Montreal > COOPER in Pickering,Yorkshire > DODS in East Lothian, Berwickshire, British Columbia, Montreal, > Manchester, South Africa, Hong Kong, India > DOUGLAS in Innerwick,ELN & Lanarkshire > EASTWOOD in Holmfirth,WRY > FENTON in Edinburgh > FISHER in Leconfield & Pocklington, East YKS > HAYTON in EastYorkshire > HEWAT in East Lothian > HESSELGRAVE in West Yorkshire > LAMONT in Lanarkshire > MCLEAN in Straclur,Argyll > PAVER in Sherburn in Elmet, Yks > RANKINE in Dunbartonshire, Perthshire > SHIRREFF in East Lothian > SUFFILL/SUFFIELD in West & North Yorkshire > TROTTER, Islay,ARL,Lanarkshire, West Lothian > WALTON, Bradford & Denby, Yorkshire > WILLIAMSON in Edinburgh & North Berwick > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ______________ > Get your own web address. > Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message